To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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[JK] The Invading Army of Peace and Love
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The political correct term would probably be something like Federation Stability Mission in the Orion Union (FESMOU) if we look at the naming conventions of UN missions but that doesn't sound very convicning and I ölack the energy to come up with something that results in a cooler acronym so..
[X][NAME] VIGILANCE
it is.
[X][NAME] VIGILANCE
it is.
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"VIGIL."
"Velaora Igil Goru Ignili, Lasduranon."
"Eat Shit And Die, Syndicate."
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Don't think this means you've won!
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Amarki and Orion, in unison: "...What's an eagle?"
EDIT: Oh, and I made a few very slight tweaks to the wording of a bit of Ensign Bessle's dialogue in Fairy Tales, Pt. 3 to be compatible with the timeline of the fall of the Orion Empire that you expressed in your recent omake. Since a thousand years ago as of 2312, the Orion Empire was basically dead already and the Hur'q were running the quadrant.
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Good enough for me!
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Yeah. I knew we weren't going to keep Nash on the sidelines forever, so I kind of... foreshadowed it, if you will, in my Five Years in Review mock-review that covers 2301-10 or so. I didn't know exactly what I was foreshadowing, of course, but I knew she'd be back for something.
It's a good theory. Makes a lot of sense. Helps explain why they wanted Nash, specifically, in charge. She may well be our most celebrated field commander at this point. Everyone with that kind of command experience before the Khitomer Accords (e.g. Sulu) has already been promoted too high to take the field.
I fondly hope that Uhura will be reporting to only a very short list of individuals, highly placed in the Union government. If we're lucky, we can maybe get them, specifically, in front of a psychic or two.
As long as the task force still has operational independence, and the direct oversight is concentrated in the person of a small number of individuals whose loyalties are known (like Oyana herself, or Sierre, or that Vulcan jurist we saw in one of the 'Orion politics' omakes), we should be okay. I'd actually like to see Sierre doing something, because a reputation for incorruptibility is really really handy at times like this, especially if it's the truth.
Quite frankly, the Orions hit the end of ambition around a thousand years ago; everything since then has been them kidding themselves. They had their second chance, because the Hur'q vanished a loooong time ago. Their current social structure was never going to become a great power, not as long as the Syndicate and the hypercorps were parasitical on the system. If they had that potential they would have expressed it already, instead of having species that were literally in the Iron Age during their imperial peak rise to overtake them.
I think that probably-Qute was right about that one, really. The Orions have to adapt to not being galactic overlords. They should have done it a long time ago. Because they're never going to enjoy the kind of power vacuum that they originally expanded into, that enabled them to become an empire in the first place. It's not that they have to forget ambition. But they need to recognize that it's time to stop dreaming of a revived Rome and start dreaming of a united Italy.
Nonono. This is not the end. This is not even the beginning of the end.
However, like El Alamein, it is the end of the beginning.
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If so, for someone who used Robespierre like a stage prop, she sure seems to agree with the sentiments of his Orion counterpart.
You're right, but I was suddenly reminded of the episode Devil's Due. Strictly, someone with a transporter and a holodeck could have duplicated most of that.
Sorry, didn't catch this before.
1. To clarify, Q wasn't threatening to destroy the Orions herself. She was warning Oyana that if they don't get their shit together, sooner or later someone else will.
2. I was also thinking of "Devil's Due." Not because Q was an imposter, but because if I were in Oyana's place that would be my initial assumption, so I had her act accordingly.
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Oh wow, how did I miss those two tasty Orion omakes? Weird.
Personally I assume the Hur'q have a level of mystery hovering around "Sea Peoples" level.
I suggested Aerocommandos instead of Marines because I think any sort of Space Assault Force that specializes in drop pods or high-risk shuttle assaults will be modeled more like Paratrooper or Air Assault units and named as such, rather than using the term 'marine,' which might not even be a cultural concept for some species.
However in the Earth context I suspect the term persists due to cultural inertia (SPACE MARINES) and tradition, but as informal names. I would actually not be surprised if MACOs were referred to as "Space Marines" by the general public. Or if Starfleet has an orbital assault corps they have an official name like "Special Orbital Tactical Unit" or "Security Enhanced Response Force" but all the humans wander around calling them "Starfleet Marines" to the general confusion of the other species. Andorians be like "I thought they were Starfleet Guard?", Vulcans stick to the acronym, and Amarki are like "uh my dude they are clearly Starfleet Dragoons". This would probably apply to UESPA Marines as well. EDIT: by which I mean they might have a more formal name but are called Marines widely by the Earth populace and probably even the government. I actually assume that would get translated to other species, whereas the SF version would have no official-unofficial moniker and thus be open season to cultural interpretation.
When in doubt I assume some of @Ato's omakes could just be the author taking an authoritative stance on issues that are still contentious in the academic community. Like it could be some people aren't sure if the Hur'q actually ran those suzerainties, or if it was aristocratic factions of the existing society adopting the Hur'q name for legitimacy or as a form of worship. Or if the Janissary Rebellion actually happened, because the main source about it is a text written 100 years later by a biased source. Shit like that.
Personally I assume the Hur'q have a level of mystery hovering around "Sea Peoples" level.
Indeed, Aerocommandos are supposed to be Marines. It's in reference to how Mexico uses it's Marine Corps in the drug war - they caught El Chapo for example.
I suggested Aerocommandos instead of Marines because I think any sort of Space Assault Force that specializes in drop pods or high-risk shuttle assaults will be modeled more like Paratrooper or Air Assault units and named as such, rather than using the term 'marine,' which might not even be a cultural concept for some species.
However in the Earth context I suspect the term persists due to cultural inertia (SPACE MARINES) and tradition, but as informal names. I would actually not be surprised if MACOs were referred to as "Space Marines" by the general public. Or if Starfleet has an orbital assault corps they have an official name like "Special Orbital Tactical Unit" or "Security Enhanced Response Force" but all the humans wander around calling them "Starfleet Marines" to the general confusion of the other species. Andorians be like "I thought they were Starfleet Guard?", Vulcans stick to the acronym, and Amarki are like "uh my dude they are clearly Starfleet Dragoons". This would probably apply to UESPA Marines as well. EDIT: by which I mean they might have a more formal name but are called Marines widely by the Earth populace and probably even the government. I actually assume that would get translated to other species, whereas the SF version would have no official-unofficial moniker and thus be open season to cultural interpretation.
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[X][NAME] VIGIL
From canon we know that many worlds in Trek have analogs to earth animals and in translation to whatever federation standard is they are often to referred to as such.(For example; Bajoran Bat, Caldorian Eel, Denebian whale, Algorian mammoth.) So they might be called Amarkian Eagles or Celos Eagles, but something similar is probably known to them. You could of course make a a word for whatever the most common eagle analogue on Orion worlds are and use that, but that would of course not mean anything to Amarkians, or vis versa.
Where it is clear that within the use of federation standard (which may or may not be English) there is a common word for large avian analogue predator that is widely applied. It would be Eagle.
Fun fact beta canon does actually have the name for the Andorian Eagle analogue, Atlirith. I'm sure we can use that at a starship name at some point.
Oh definitely, in fact I tried to suggest in the last part that no body was really sure what happened during the fall of the Hur'q or immediately after. and that the earliest accounts of Borass founding the Empire of Rigel are were really only written a generation or so later. And the author is quite clearly biased since the possibility of the Syndicate playing a role in the rebellion is dismissed out of hand, when really I think its probably likely they did.
However I don't think the level of mystery should be quite sea peoples level. The Hur'q were a star faring species that over ran and conquered several other star faring species. Even with the amount of damage the Hur'q did to the societies they subjugated there would be some records remaining, even if they were fragmentary and unreliable at best.
That and archeological from worlds the Hur'q conquered would show definite indicators and changes in patterns of use that could be used to infer changes in the society and date them. For instance modern archeologists can determine the growth and economy of settlements that existed during the mid first millennium from aerial photography and excavations. The amount of archeological data a technological civilization puts out, even one in decline, would enable quite a lot to be determined, even outside of actual written records.
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I've convinced myself that the Amarkian Eagle is a Haast's Eagle analogue that ancient knights would ride into battle.
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[jk] Clearly we need to sponsor a time travel mission to go back and take a look. Seems like a pretty safe historical era to observe, right?
I want five.
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Also, with thicc green ladies and dreamy blue bishie boys fighting side by side, I expect we'll be seeing some aquamarine children within a few years.
On that note -- someone mentioned DREDD earlier, and I was thinking if you swapped the genders around and made the psionic person a Rixx Scrutineer it would be a pretty easy adaptation.
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