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Artemis1992 said:
I remember that. But in this case the details are very important.

In our Earth-traditions Orders like that included a lot of duties and oaths that an officer whose first loyalty doesn't lie with the Order absolutly can't afford to make.
And Nash is right now Starfleet Commodore. See the possible problem?
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Eh. It's fine.

They'll understand.
 
Simon_Jester said:
The Syndicate sure ain't acting like a bunch of Paul Reveres and George Washingtons now. Also, we've got a pretty firm 'canon' for the Orions in this game, and it contradicts the FASA content on this issue. I think that may be just as well, because I don't think anyone's ever done a version of the Orions in Star Trek canon that's as fun as the one we're playing. I mean seriously, we've got an Orion that:
1) Includes the matriarchal elements of the culture, and the pheromones that are the Orion superpower
2) Includes the hints from canon that the Orions used to be a powerful empire that then collapsed
3) Drops a lot of the weird sexism of the way Orion females are portrayed in canon (in favor of different weird sexism on the Orions' part but that just adds flavor from an RP point of view)
4) Gives the Orions a 'hat' other than 'entire species run by giant criminal organization.' In particular, it makes them 'cyberpunk' instead of 'green exotic dancers.'
5) Provides ample grounds for storytelling and in-character questions about how Orion society works and how its politics affect us.

So I'm pretty happy with this as-is.
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You're welcome > : V

Actually you should thank @Amorous Intent . She came up with the general idea that @Iron Wolf and I have run with.

Random Member said:
Alright, so Amarki and Orions, blue and green. AquaMarines?

Aquamarine is a shade between blue and green, and Marines refers to the Marine Corps (or Space Marines, whatever you want). Or is that too cheesy? I really suck at coming up with names.
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Well. (I'm actually in the middle of an Omake that mentions this) but the Aerocommandos are sort of a reference/send up of the military science fiction that still has some descendant of the US Marines around in the year 1 billion or whatever. The Aerocommandos occupy roughly the same cultural space for the Union that the Marines do for the US. Except the organizational history of the Aerocommando Corps goes back a couple millenia.


Hmmm....

To go maximum Sierre
[FR] National Guard

For some things that popped into my head:
[] Destiny Spear
[] Order of the Green Lady
[] Elfcorps

But really

[X] VIGILANCE
(It's an acronym with random Amarki and Orion words. Well more of a backronym that is then translated into English so makes even less sense. But it works. It also sounds like some sort of cyberpunk organization too. Which is apropos)
 
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Artemis1992 said:
See the possible problem?
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Not really. Amarkia isn't an affiliate or anything; they are a full member of the Federation. There is no conflict between owing loyalty to your nation and one particular state within that nation.

The only potential issue I see would be from Nash and Leaniss having unclear chains of command but that is, for now at least, resolved by them both being directly under command of a special joint command so their normal chain of command doesn't apply. I suspect after the Syndicate crisis is over they'll be placed on permanent detachment to Starfleet and hence effectively removed from the Order of Lileac's chain of command.
 
UberJJK said:
Not really. Amarkia isn't an affiliate or anything; they are a full member of the Federation. There is no conflict between owing loyalty to your nation and one particular state within that nation.
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There is if that state does something rebellious, but only then. We're doing this in large part to avoid that necessity arising, so I don't see the problem.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
- Very quietly, groundwork is being laid for a fast-tracked Orion Union membership into the Federation, approved by the Development faction. This includes a mechanism for immediate ratification in the even of the commencement of a Cardassian coup attempt to allow Starfleet assets to immediately oppose.
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Good, good.

Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen.


[ ][NAME] Provide a new informal name for the JGOC.
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[X]Aethercorps

I feel like Aero-troops and Space Elves naturally lends itself towards this, plus it has as much of grandstanding implications, as noble ones. Plus, I didn't want to riff on Novacorps too much :V
 
UberJJK said:
Not really. Amarkia isn't an affiliate or anything; they are a full member of the Federation. There is no conflict between owing loyalty to your nation and one particular state within that nation.

The only potential issue I see would be from Nash and Leaniss having unclear chains of command but that is, for now at least, resolved by them both being directly under command of a special joint command so their normal chain of command doesn't apply. I suspect after the Syndicate crisis is over they'll be placed on permanent detachment to Starfleet and hence effectively removed from the Order of Lileac's chain of command.
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I also want to point out that we don't know that much about how exactly the Order of the Lileac works. It may well be that there are already provisions in place for resolving this sort of issue.
 
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@OneirosTheWriter Does the improved Resilience kick in for this year (2312) or do we only get it starting 2313? Also curious, will we have the opportunity to amend the Anti-Slavery Act with the Influence we got from last Snakepit, or does this whole situation kinda upset the applecart?
 
Simon_Jester said:
There is if that state does something rebellious, but only then. We're doing this in large part to avoid that necessity arising, so I don't see the problem.
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To be fair that would be a serious issue anyway since, depending upon what exactly happened, it could easily result in conflicted loyalties for every member of that species in Starfleet.

Just imagine if, in a worst case scenario, Amarkia had gone full Mirror Universe and invaded Orion. Starfleet would have (likely) been sent into stop them. Suddenly any Amarkian on board any Starfleet ship sent in has to ask if they are willing to betray their own species to fulfill their oaths to Starfleet.
 
AKuz said:
(It's an acronym with random Amarki and Orion words. Well more of a backronym that is then translated into English so makes even less sense. But it works)
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I like the idea of not having a neat English full name, if we do go with an acronym. I'll wait and see what other ideas turn up before voting, though.

Before I move on with the Renaissance-class model, I thought I'd share a render of a, well, a literal Renaissance-class model.

Edit: looking at it now, I think I probably should have widened the base of the stand a little...
 
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[X][NAME] "Knights of Judgement"

As coined live on air by an FBS broadcast covering the aftermath of their first major conflict.
 
A lot of real anti-terrorist/ police paramilitary organizations have animal themed names like Tigers or Scorpions. Given that previous talk in this thread has pointed to the Imperial Orions being the originators of the Bird of Prey type warship and thus probably having avian predator symbolism, along with the Aero-Commandos typical method of operation I think a bird name would be good.
We haven't seen Amarki ground forces much , but given their knight fetish I can't imagine them as anything else but clad in plate power Armour. Thus;

[X][NAME] Iron Eagles
 
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