One final variation on the Renaissance warp nacelle placement (with 100% line-of-sight!). I'm not going to do any more after this!

The perspective angle isn't the best, but I wanted to keep the camera in the same place. Here's the 3d model if you like.
Clarification edit: I'm not going to try any more new variations. I'll develop one of the existing ones as far as I can.

I agree, this is my favorite so far!

Oh man I've been waiting to do this for a while-

Starfleet Academy's Away-team Annexes.

I myself have used "Ceres station" which is essentially a working version of a standard science outpost/ listening post... in Sol. It's there to familiarize crews with the regular operations of that sort of station over long periods of time. And it's there to be boring and uncomfortable as fuck to see how likely a cadet is to go stir crazy or just can't hack living in someone's pocket for a couple months.

Maybe we've just been spoiled by the Romulans, but I feel like I've been hearing about these guys a lot more than an espionage-themed race should let themselves get heard about.

The Romulans have the built in advantage of literally being the same species as one of our major member species.

I've also always gotten the impression that for all the Lacarre are obsessed with spying... they aren't actually any good at it. Their paranoia is so heightened it wraps around to them being incompetent at it.
 
It's important to remember that the Orions have a deep-seated complex about foreign intervention, and a highly nationalistic party in Opposition right now that is no doubt hammering the government on how it's letting Starfleet do everything. So it's not entirely surprising they're launching this assault.

The suddenness and rush of it though seems odd. Wonder why it's so pressing? Oyana trying to secure a 3rd term? Actionable intelligence?

I'm seeing it more as pressure coming down on Oyana. Between SF doing the bulk of the work and the Amriaki holding war crimes on the pirates it's making her look weak.
 
I've also always gotten the impression that for all the Lacarre are obsessed with spying... they aren't actually any good at it. Their paranoia is so heightened it wraps around to them being incompetent at it.

I think they are at least decent at it. they just keep doing high risk high reward ops like trying to steal a computer core off an explorer and running headfirst into just how bullshit federation sensors are.
 
The Lecarre's problem, in the age of interstellar espionage, is that they are probably incapable of trusting aliens enough to get good use out of networks of contacts and informants. So they're forced to insert suitably surgerized members of their own species, which runs into all sorts of problems (convincingly falsifying documentation and references used by another planet you can't easily visit, for instance).

By contrast, the Obsidian Order or Tal Shiar can just hire an Orion or a Yrillian or a renegade human merchant or something, and that works. They're still paranoid and suspicious of the aliens they employ, but not cripplingly so.
 
I myself have used "Ceres station" which is essentially a working version of a standard science outpost/ listening post... in Sol. It's there to familiarize crews with the regular operations of that sort of station over long periods of time. And it's there to be boring and uncomfortable as fuck to see how likely a cadet is to go stir crazy or just can't hack living in someone's pocket for a couple months.
Totally different intentions of course-Ceres station is about discomfort and boredom and long-term stress, while the various annex stations are far more about crisis situations, damage control, and what to do when things inevitably go wrong. The effect is to get crews 'blooded' more quickly, and throw in a touch of Kobiyashi Maru for all grades at the same time.
 
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(Rambling incoming)

I've actually been wondering if Sol is rapidly becoming a "Federal" system and not really the "Human Capital". Like due to Sol's importance as an administrative, economic and military hub; "Sol/Earth" as it is usually thought of by regular UFP citizens is becoming diverged from "Humanity".

Like, I'd bet that Sol is a best 50/50 Human/Other (I have edited this to 70/30-ish after actually having thought about it) and judging by frankly over the top numbers of small Human colonies seen in Trek, I wonder if due to the continued aftereffects of WWIII and whatnot, Human culture in the broadest sense is defined by it's diaspora into hundreds of smaller colonies. (And larger ones such as, say, Alpha Centauri) While Sol become the seat of "Federation" multiculture.

Part of this is because no one cared about Earth or Humans. (This isn't what it sounds like). I mean that everyone opposed putting things elsewhere because they had history with each other. Earth's only real war (Leaving out all sorts of Temporal Cold War bullshit) was with the Romulans; a race that literally no one knew who they were for a century afterwards. So why put the political capital on Earth? Because smaller colonies are out, and the other larger worlds have probably been fought over or involved in bad blood. Why an economic, industrial and military hub? Because there was virtually no major space based infrastructure to speak of, so instead of arguing over whose centuries old space stations get upgraded to modern spec, you just chip in cash to build a brand new, state of the art infrastructure to share in Sol. And even there was probably lots of room Earthside as well. For all we know the land Starfleet Academy was built on was a radioactive crater in 2063.

(The Terra First peep's anger at aliens actually kinda backs this up. They were legitimately angry at this huge influx of foreign influence. Sure that shiny new shipyard is going up over Europa, but it was designed by a Vulcan, backed by an Andorian banker, and built with Tellarite specialists with Humans taking only a secondary role in the work at all levels. The Sol Humans of that time probably ended up with mixed feelings of pride for being in the spotlight, and inferiority over the reason for the spotlight)

@Simon_Jester 's theory that Earth built all the Constitutions out of some sort of patriotic surge fits here too. Because the Humans of that time wanted Sol and Humanity to be more than "That place we put all our stuff because we can't be bothered to put it elsewhere". They wanted respect and recognition in their own right rather than merely for being a convenient crossroads chosen for not being objectionable. They wanted to prove that Humanity really was an equal player in their own right.

Also. In universe this is the reason why people keep gunning for Earth if the universe is not run on Humanity Fuck Yeah rules. And that's because all roads lead to Sol. It's a political, economic, military, and industrial hub... but not because it's Humanity's homeworld, but because it ended up being the default middle ground between everyone.
 
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Like, I'd bet that Sol is a best 50/50 Human/Other

No way. I agree with a lot of the rest of what you're saying, but it's all political/economic. Earth is home to billions of humans, and you just can't physically move enough aliens fast enough to make much of a dent in the population percentages, or vice versa for moving humans to colonies. 500 million human colonists could have moved off Earth over the past 250 years, and it still wouldn't reduce human numbers by that much. (Besides, a lot of them went to Mars.) I'm pretty confident that Earth is still 99% human, and has 90%+ of the population of the solar system.

This doesn't prevent all the other stuff you're saying from being true, but it demonstrates the tensions. The rest of the Federation feels like they have a right to control all the things that were build in Sol because, hey, they paid for most of it. Humans (or at least some of them) feel like they shouldn't have aliens telling them what to do in Sol because it's humanity's home system and still overwhelmingly human in population.
 
No way. I agree with a lot of the rest of what you're saying, but it's all political/economic. Earth is home to billions of humans, and you just can't physically move enough aliens fast enough to make much of a dent in the population percentages, or vice versa for moving humans to colonies. 500 million human colonists could have moved off Earth over the past 250 years, and it still wouldn't reduce human numbers by that much. (Besides, a lot of them went to Mars.) I'm pretty confident that Earth is still 99% human, and has 90%+ of the population of the solar system.

This doesn't prevent all the other stuff you're saying from being true, but it demonstrates the tensions. The rest of the Federation feels like they have a right to control all the things that were build in Sol because, hey, they paid for most of it. Humans (or at least some of them) feel like they shouldn't have aliens telling them what to do in Sol because it's humanity's home system and still overwhelmingly human in population.

Nah, I mean the Humans themselves!

Humans like to bone down yanno?

> : P
 
Though actually I do think it's because Sol does now have a population of Billions, but at the time of First Contact there were probably a Billion at best between all the CRBN stuff that was thrown around during WWIII.

It might not be 50/50 but it's probably actually a very high minority of mixed non-Humans. Probably 70/30-ish.
 
(Rambling incoming)

I've actually been wondering if Sol is rapidly becoming a "Federal" system and not really the "Human Capital". Like due to Sol's importance as an administrative, economic and military hub; "Sol/Earth" as it is usually thought of by regular UFP citizens is becoming diverged from "Humanity".

Like, I'd bet that Sol is a best 50/50 Human/Other and judging by frankly over the top numbers of small Human colonies seen in Trek, I wonder if due to the continued aftereffects of WWIII and whatnot, Human culture in the broadest sense is defined by it's diaspora into hundreds of smaller colonies. (And larger ones such as, say, Alpha Centauri) While Sol become the seat of "Federation" multiculture...

(The Terra First peep's anger at aliens actually kinda backs this up. They were legitimately angry at this huge influx of foreign influence. Sure that shiny new shipyard is going up over Europa, but it was designed by a Vulcan, backed by an Andorian banker, and built with Tellarite specialists with Humans taking only a secondary role in the work at all levels. The Sol Humans of that time probably ended up with mixed feelings of pride for being in the spotlight, and inferiority over the reason for the spotlight)

@Simon_Jester 's theory that Earth built all the Constitutions out of some sort of patriotic surge fits here too. Because the Humans of that time wanted Sol and Humanity to be more than "That place we put all our stuff because we can't be bothered to put it elsewhere". They wanted respect and recognition in their own right rather than merely for being a convenient crossroads chosen for not being objectionable. They wanted to prove that Humanity really was an equal player in their own right.

Also. In universe this is the reason why people keep gunning for Earth if the universe is not run on Humanity Fuck Yeah rules. And that's because all roads lead to Sol. It's a political, economic, military, and industrial hub... but not because it's Humanity's homeworld, but because it ended up being the default middle ground between everyone.
I like this, and I think I can integrate @Briefvoice's concerns by suggesting a slight amendment.

Once you get into space, or in the handful of specific cities on Earth that have become 'Federation cities' to a large extent (Paris and San Francisco, mainly), the population has tremendous numbers of aliens. So as long as you stay on Earth in places the Federation doesn't have lots of facilities, yeah the population is 99% human or so. But you go to San Francisco and suddenly, lots of aliens. You go to Luna or Mars- lots of aliens, maybe not a large minority but a pretty significant one. You go to an orbital mining facility in the asteroid belt- lots of aliens. And the aliens you do see are disproportionately occupying good, strong positions- the people who control stations that were originally built with alien help, the Vulcan technical specialists brought in to consult on things that the Federation needs done but not enough Earth people know how to do. Even in a society that largely ignores money, that can sting.

So there'd be this sense, in the first generation or two after the founding of the Federation, that Earth is almost like a ghetto for humans, that as soon as you step out into the wider universe there are no 'human' places, the way even the other founding members have colonies and ships that are characteristically 'theirs.' And the actions of UESPA, and humans building all these little colonies and mines and so on out among the stars, is a reaction against that sense of being ghettoized and of Sol III becoming the "Earthling reservation" while the stars belong to all these older bunches of aliens.

[Which come to think of it makes me sympathize with the Dawiar a little more]
 
So there'd be this sense, in the first generation or two after the founding of the Federation, that Earth is almost like a ghetto for humans, that as soon as you step out into the wider universe there are no 'human' places, the way even the other founding members have colonies and ships that are characteristically 'theirs.' And the actions of UESPA, and humans building all these little colonies and mines and so on out among the stars, is a reaction against that sense of being ghettoized and of Sol III becoming the "Earthling reservation" while the stars belong to all these older bunches of aliens.

[Which come to think of it makes me sympathize with the Dawiar a little more]

"It doesn't matter where it is, or how habitable it is, you'll find some Humans willing to give it a try."
-Unnamed Andorian commentator

"Humans are Vermin, Pests, always scurrying about underfoot"
-Lieutenant Talis Xomek, Tal Shiar analyst​
 
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I think in TNG, prime universe, it's entirely possible Sol is 50/50 due to the fact they have way more species in general and member planets. A combination of human population stabalizing at ~7 billion due to development and large-scale immigration.

In TBG with a handful of members and affiliates, and it being 'only' 2300, the proportion is probably lower.
 
I think in TNG, prime universe, it's entirely possible Sol is 50/50 due to the fact they have way more species in general and member planets. A combination of human population stabalizing at ~7 billion due to development and large-scale immigration.

In TBG with a handful of members and affiliates, and it being 'only' 2300, the proportion is probably lower.

Remember, I believe that up until 2300, TBG """is""" the Prime universe. So I write these things up under that assumption.
 
On Earth population: The (noncanon) ST: Star Charts book listed the 2370 Earth census as 4.2 billion people. In First Contact, the fully-borgified future Earth had 9 billion drones.

One would expect the real number to be somewhere between the two. We also never get numbers for aliens in that.

By TOS canon, 37 million died in WWIII. By TNG canon, that number was 600 million (with about 30 million dying to the Eugenics Wars in specific).

By EU canon, Mars, which we can expect is the largest and most developed human colony, is about 130 million strong.

In all likelihood, the majority of humanity is still there on Earth right now, I think.

(Also α Cen has like 21 billion in the EU but this is due to the EU placing another species of UFP members there)
 
Trying to delve too far into the inevitable difference between the (playably small) Federation of 2300 and the stuff that's canon from TOS and the movies is a losing game. But regardless of the exact numbers of aliens present in Sol System or on Earth proper, I think we've got a partial explanation for what's going on.
 
Theory IRL suggests if humans as a whole can sustainably develop to current Western standards in like, the next 100 years we will see population stabilize around 8-9billion so there's a decent future benchmark.
 
I'm not sure TBG has the same variety of species in 2300 that even the movies had, but possible.

Like I said """is""". I assume that events and places and things from canon exsist somewhere unless specified otherwise. We just don't... mention it. It's easier to keep track of that way. (I mean, not that the Shitty EU is in any way better, it is worse in many ways. The sense of scale is so wonky and shifts constantly)

On Earth population: The (noncanon) ST: Star Charts book listed the 2370 Earth census as 4.2 billion people. In First Contact, the fully-borgified future Earth had 9 billion drones.

One would expect the real number to be somewhere between the two. We also never get numbers for aliens in that.

By TOS canon, 37 million died in WWIII. By TNG canon, that number was 600 million (with about 30 million dying to the Eugenics Wars in specific).

By EU canon, Mars, which we can expect is the largest and most developed human colony, is about 130 million strong.

In all likelihood, the majority of humanity is still there on Earth right now, I think.

(Also α Cen has like 21 billion in the EU but this is due to the EU placing another species of UFP members there)

I've figured that the low death statistics for WWIII are mainly due to that listing only the "Direct" deaths of the Bombs and leaving out starvation, disease (some of it genetically engineered to really drive home the "Genetic Engineering is bad" thing), and natural disasters.

I also expect that half the human race is scattered out in penny packets of hundreds of those 10,000 to 10 million colonies scattered around (Some settled by sleeper ships botany bay style maybe hundreds of years away.) We just don't hear about it because we only "see" systems Relevant and important to Starfleet (And that Oneiros can whip up an extra colony whenever he needs to)

And the Canon number of "9 Billion drones" seems light in a universe where the Dominion was going to kill 900 billion before the war's end.

Like Earth's alien population is probably fairly large due to slow accretion. During the time of Enterprise, before the foundation of the Federation, you probably had at most a few million merchants, diplomats, and specialists brought in to help bring Sol's industries up to standards. Any many of those probably had families and stayed.

Then over time diplomats and other folk like that come and go, and some stay.

And then you get the opportunists, hangers on, and idealists, those drawn to the fact that this is the Federation's capital. The Andoiran woman that emigrated to Earth to work with the Galactic Rights Commission and brought her large family with her. The Tellarite workers who came to help align Utopia Planetia with federation standards and are still here because they understand and built the systems. Lobbyists from the Orion Retail Commission trying to crack into Federation markets, with literally hundreds of thousands of Orion workers in Sol trying to convince Humans to buy their stuff. Yrillian refugees from the last big civil dust up wanting a different life. All the Starfleet aliens that retired from Starfleet but live on Earth as consultants.

It's just slowly built up over time. And the native Human population is probably relatively stable due to being a First World equivalent (Zeroth World? Negative-First World? ... Successful Second World? > : P) so all the humans leaving to tip Colonia Prime from eight to ten million or whatever slowly deplete Sol's Human population without replenishing it with humans. But no one notices that because official 2300 census tallies are 25% higher than they were in 2200.

I actually wonder if Trek Humans actually have this sort of culturally prominent Inferiority complex that we don't recognize because no one looks for it? All those high achieving Starfleet officers and over representation in Starfleet flag ranks is not because Humans inexplicably have all the power in the Federation, but because they feel they have none, so they make a massive effort to perform and overachieve. All the random colonies are part of this too, an almost subconscious desire to show the rest of the Galaxy that Humans can hang with the big boys. Sure that Vulcan of Three Million has been that way for a century; but a century ago but the next door Human colony of four million didn't even exist!

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I also wonder if there is a decently large diaspora community in the Orion Union? They are a nearby polity where a lot of the ideologies and economic ideas of today (Which are not present at all in Trek Humans) still exist and are near deified. A lot of people angry with the "New Economy" probably also had a diaspora, but not to colonies, but to existing societies.(And freed slaves...)

Also: my headcannon is that there is also decently large Orion community of "Terraboos". Human cyberpunk is especially well regarded, though fantasy (read Star Wars and other space opera) is also well liked. As well Orion Pizza is well regarded as just about the best in the galaxy. Much as the Klingons stole Shakespear, the Orions stole Pizza!
 
"I swear to god Sharizz, if I have to hear from S-Rank Security Solutions about their emulation of 'Authentic Ancient Indian Bushido Code' ever again -- I am going to suplex someone."

"Commander Wolfe there is no possible way you could suplex the CEO of S-Rank. I have calculated it."

"SUPLEX THEIR SPIRIT THEN"
 
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Like Earth's alien population is probably fairly large due to slow accretion. During the time of Enterprise, before the foundation of the Federation, you probably had at most a few million merchants, diplomats, and specialists brought in to help bring Sol's industries up to standards. Any many of those probably had families and stayed.

I guess we're not going to come to an agreement here, because I just don't see the Earth as having that many aliens. I even had a line in an omake about how even in San Francisco, an Andorian attracts a second look when he walks into a bar.
 
As far as canon goes 50%-70% humans are much more plausible for the Federation as a whole than for Sol, given how many human colony worlds there seem to be and how high the share of humans in shown Starfleet personnel is. To reach population figures in the low trillions by DS9 all that's needed is a doubling about every 40 years, so a bit below the peak growth rate in the 20th century. Doesn't fit very well with shown family sizes, but if those families were typical humans would be extinct by then.
 
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