Well considering the tech that goes into starships, it's more like everything you build is a super carrier.
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Well considering the tech that goes into starships, it's more like everything you build is a super carrier.
The talk of warships and civilian ships makes me wonder how many civilian ships are there in the Star Trek universe and would a typical Federation, let alone Earth, citizen even be able to leave their homeworld? The ratio of Star Fleet crew and ship numbers to the population of the Federation seems incredibly tiny, a few hundred ships with a crew of a few hundred each compared to a population of up to dozens or hundreds of billions.
Is Star Fleet seeming more on the scale of NASA than any rl Navy a deliberate choice and is there a much larger and cost effective civilian fleet that's somehow militarily non competitive with the elites?
Is Star Fleet seeming more on the scale of NASA than any rl Navy a deliberate choice and is there a much larger and cost effective civilian fleet that's somehow militarily non competitive with the elites?
Something to consider is that by TNG era it seems like warp-capable shuttle craft are a thing. We frequently see character taking short trips between solar systems when it would be a pain for the Enterprise to deliver them. If all you need to get between your local systems is a shuttle craft, that seems to make travel way more affordable. (Of course, I also think it's funny whenever we see one of shuttles and understand that the occupants probably have to spend days in them for a trip, not hours, given actual warp speeds.)
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There are probably passengers ships that feel like modern long distance trains when space is premium and it moved largish groups of people to new colonies to set up. Plus there are probably a lot of smaller ships about the size of shuttles for personal use(like a female personal ship in current times). You have to remember, to have your own ship, you probably need to learn some basic ship maintenance and warp knowledge to travel safely
Yeah the idea was to take the minimum we'd probably need to get the canon version (3 phaser, 3 spatial torpedoes) and add a few things like the Refit secondary hull (I would really like to build the refit version over the original) and the heavy phaser battery option we declined on the Stingray. That gives a ballpark of where we might expect the cost to come in.
I think we should still give it spatial Torpedoes. They're not as powerful as phase cannons, but they offer more flexibility since they can home in on targets and potentially be modified with other payloads, or enter atmosphere or liquid that might disperse the phaser beams.
The Jenolan was a passenger transport, the Raven was operated by civilians and Sisko's girlfriend owns her own freighter, plus we see the Maquis with privately owned vessels. Unfortunately there's no real sense or explanation of how widespread shuttle or ship ownership is in the Federation.
Agreed. I'd rather avoid the, admittedly remote, possibility of a certain museum ship spontaniously manifesting as a Kanmusu just so she can come punch us all in the nose for giving her name to a space equivalent of a tramp steamer.
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Would've liked 5 ships over 4 years, but oh well.
Right now Earth only has a bare handful of underdeveloped colonies. We have little need for a massive merchant marine when we dont even have the ships to protect our little slice of the cosmos.
Right now Earth only has a bare handful of underdeveloped colonies. We have little need for a massive merchant marine when we dont even have the ships to protect our little slice of the cosmos.
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[X] UES Zheng He, a Merchant-class starship line named after famous mercantile people.
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
I think 6 ships is a good compromise between expanding hulls in use by Starfleet and saving some industry to expand our capacity.
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
I think 6 ships is a good compromise between expanding hulls in use by Starfleet and saving some industry to expand our capacity.
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[X] UES Zheng He, a Merchant-class starship line named after famous mercantile people.
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
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[X] Four Ships over Four Years (-16 Industry)
The math tells me that the less industry we spend the better off we are.
The math tells me that the less industry we spend the better off we are.
[X] UES Zheng He, a Merchant-class starship line named after famous mercantile people.
[X] Four Ships over Four Years (-16 Industry)
[X] Four Ships over Four Years (-16 Industry)
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Star Trek ship numbers are always insanely, impossibly low for the implications of the setting. It's just a genre thing at this point.
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[X] UES Iowa, for the state where many of its new components were manufactured.
[X] Four Ships over Four Years (-16 Industry)
Saving industry to try and have as much as possible for NX production and Stingray refits. The more industry we have saved up the more we can push the NX class while still being able to refit the stingray and get another warp 5 class out (or grow enough to produce a 2nd NX each year)
[X] Four Ships over Four Years (-16 Industry)
Saving industry to try and have as much as possible for NX production and Stingray refits. The more industry we have saved up the more we can push the NX class while still being able to refit the stingray and get another warp 5 class out (or grow enough to produce a 2nd NX each year)
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[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
Do not much care about name but I like this rate of build. Also leaves some over to build up more industry.
SF and earth seemed to have plenty of that otl so lets not skimp ttl
Do not much care about name but I like this rate of build. Also leaves some over to build up more industry.
SF and earth seemed to have plenty of that otl so lets not skimp ttl
[X] UES Zheng He, a Merchant-class starship line named after famous mercantile people.
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)
[X] Six Ships over Four Years (-24 Industry)