[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
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I don't think 1Bs actually make our ship more desirable post contest. 2 phasors is enough. More is just guilding the lilly.
[X] Use the Type-1B Phasers [Bespoke] [100,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: First Place]
The most important design factor is using this cutter as a test bed for new technology, so our next military ship will be stronger. Winning the competition is a secondary concern we can fit in around that.
The most important design factor is using this cutter as a test bed for new technology, so our next military ship will be stronger. Winning the competition is a secondary concern we can fit in around that.
No, the most important design factor is winning. People get testy when you use their stuff for testbedding more often than you think.
Strunkriidiisk
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No, this is the one ship we definitely shouldn't be prototyping on, unless the prototype physically cannot be worse than the proven thing it's replacing. This is a workhorse budget design, for people who can't afford the big stuff.
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[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
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[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
Trading circa two points of utility for one point of tactical seems like a stupid choice.
Trading circa two points of utility for one point of tactical seems like a stupid choice.
I'm inclined to agree, but I want to clarify that the Type 1B phasers aren't a prototype, have no roll for success, and do nothing to advance the tech. They're a custom assembly of two off-the-shelf components, both of which are fully mature, well-known designs. They're just expense and bulk for power, and that's all.
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You know... If we want 2nd place in tactics, I wonder if ONE 1B phasor would have also been viable.
If you want to get technical that's what a prototype is, ie something built for the first time, it just doesn't include a performance roll, but sometimes that happens.
[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]
We probably don't want a bespoke weapons system if we want governments to actually use our ship. This is meant to be a cheap ship both to build but also to operate and a bespoke system drives up maintenance costs like nothing else.
We probably don't want a bespoke weapons system if we want governments to actually use our ship. This is meant to be a cheap ship both to build but also to operate and a bespoke system drives up maintenance costs like nothing else.
[X] Use the Type-1B Phasers [Bespoke] [100,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: First Place
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Oh I mean it's definitely a prototype by the dictionary definition, just not the specific-quest-mechanics one.
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Yeah, the 1B phaser is a textbook case of Goodhart's law. It's optimizing for score in this particular competition, not any practical apllication that score is trying to measure.
pheonix89
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With the Type-1 we win the contest if we can get three points of utility score.
Seeing as the others are getting two on much smaller hulls ... I think we decisively win and get a good second-line emergency responder out of it on top of a police cruiser.
Seeing as the others are getting two on much smaller hulls ... I think we decisively win and get a good second-line emergency responder out of it on top of a police cruiser.
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Yeah like mathwise it should be entirely possible for us to get 4 or even the maximum value of 5 on utility. There's really no reason to go for the 1b phasers on this one, given the pair of Type 1s meets the needs of the ship. Plus as a mass production budget design, we want to be applying KISS principles to the design.
As said before, we can swing winning on utility so long as we are at least in the same ballpark as competing designs in the other areas. If we take second place in the areas that the other two are focused on and first in utility, then we'll have made the best design from a holistic perspective.
As said before, we can swing winning on utility so long as we are at least in the same ballpark as competing designs in the other areas. If we take second place in the areas that the other two are focused on and first in utility, then we'll have made the best design from a holistic perspective.
[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max]
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[X] Stick to the Type-1 Phasers. [120,000 Ton Max] [Tactical: Second Place]