They would be refit later, but the ship is likely to go a solid 30 years before a refit. Provided there's enough of them to justify that, of course.
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They would be refit later, but the ship is likely to go a solid 30 years before a refit. Provided there's enough of them to justify that, of course.
slybrarian
Creature of Fable
- Location
- A Far and Sunless Land
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm wiling to forgo the 100% coverage since we took the maneuverability.
Tithed_Verse
Vainglorious
- Location
- Iowa
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[ ] 6 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage: 32] [60% Coverage] [Cost: 129]
Like… This is why we got this high maneuverability.
Like… This is why we got this high maneuverability.
Different starting point gives you a different endpoint and so a different formula.
I agree. Given the spacing of the blind spots and max maneuverability I think we can afford 60% coverage. We have full front and full back with good broadside via the spacing so as the quest description says it'll be really hard for them to exploit the holes.
Our blind spots would be way worse with canon phasers, so I think we can deal with only 60% type v.
Then we can max out type four torpedoes without any guilt.
- Location
- USA
[ ] 6 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage: 32] [60% Coverage] [Cost: 129]
[ ] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
Type 5 is what I want, higher damage and getting them to standard and mature quicker for later ships we design and later build runs.
[ ] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
Type 5 is what I want, higher damage and getting them to standard and mature quicker for later ships we design and later build runs.
Ugh
Thats 25% higher than I expected for full coverage,
But I cant justify leaving 25% extra damage on the table by not taking the Type Vs, especially with the knockon effects for the rest of Starfleet
VOTE
[] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
I could live with 90% or even 80% coverage
Maybe even 70%
60% seems...low
Thats 25% higher than I expected for full coverage,
But I cant justify leaving 25% extra damage on the table by not taking the Type Vs, especially with the knockon effects for the rest of Starfleet
VOTE
[] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
I could live with 90% or even 80% coverage
Maybe even 70%
60% seems...low
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- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
With only narrow blindspots... In the worst case scenario, against a swarm of ships that can exploit those blind spots, they wouldn't be able to do so consistently. They'd end up in our firing lanes, and would get squished. And in a fleet-to-fleet battle, our coverage should be plenty good enough to provide support fire like we need to.
Thanks to our saucer shape and our maximum engines, both choices I disagreed with, I think six phasers actually will work out really well. And I like that! It's almost like we planned this out ahead of time, heh.
That's another 20 cost to the total, so 129 + 20 would bring the Federation's total cost to 149. Compared to the Excalibur's total cost of 91.25 (initially 97.25), that's about a 60% increase in price for a ship that's about 60% bigger. I think that's a good place to be price-wise.
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TheShadowDeamon
Mighty Dragon
[ ] 6 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage: 32] [60% Coverage] [Cost: 129]
Don't forget there's still the torpedos to go. if we have 2 tubes aft- perhaps not the rapids, but what about the prototype next gen standards? that should fill that rear blind spot nicely.
Edit - found the table:
The type 4's are a nice boost in damage, while still being cheaper than the rapid. I'm planning on voting for 2 rapids FORE and 2 T4 AFT for a total cost of 34, burst damage of 180 and an average damage of 60.
Don't forget there's still the torpedos to go. if we have 2 tubes aft- perhaps not the rapids, but what about the prototype next gen standards? that should fill that rear blind spot nicely.
Edit - found the table:
| Component | Implementation | Cost | Real Cost | Effectiveness | Unknowns | If Taken | Implementation Schedule |
| Type-4 Photon Launcher | Prototype (+25% Cost) | 4 | 5 | 12 Average/36 Burst | Standard: 2270 | ||
| Type-1 Photon Launcher | Mature (-25% Cost) | 3 | 2.25 | 6 Average/18 Burst | Tech Matured | ||
| Type-1 Rapid Launcher | Standard | 12 | 12 | 18 Average/54 Burst | Mature: 2260 |
The type 4's are a nice boost in damage, while still being cheaper than the rapid. I'm planning on voting for 2 rapids FORE and 2 T4 AFT for a total cost of 34, burst damage of 180 and an average damage of 60.
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My guess is to make us make a choice: 129 for the heavy cruiser or 149 for the dreadnought.
Then it would be tagged as such, I think
But it isnt
So Im asking, because I think we could stagger 8 phasers to be sufficient, but not 6
It was 20 for 4, not 10 for 2
And thats on top of the rest of the ships base armament
No, because all four cardinal directions along the saucer are impossible, and the four intercardinals create a blindspot directly forward. Also meaningful choices.
- Location
- Australia
[ ] 6 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage: 32] [60% Coverage] [Cost: 129]
[ ] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
It has to be one of these, simple as that. We need the damage for swatting BoP.
I'm honestly inclined to take the 6. The moment we took command deck for better fields of fire, we have to commit to using those better fields of fire. If we were going to use 10 phaser banks, we should have got more modules instead.
We have the command saucer, we have the maneuverability, I say go the 6 Type V
[ ] 10 Phaser Banks (Type V) [Damage 32] [100% Coverage] [Cost: 149]
It has to be one of these, simple as that. We need the damage for swatting BoP.
I'm honestly inclined to take the 6. The moment we took command deck for better fields of fire, we have to commit to using those better fields of fire. If we were going to use 10 phaser banks, we should have got more modules instead.
We have the command saucer, we have the maneuverability, I say go the 6 Type V
We wouldn't though? Miranda is using 6 Type-II Phasers I believe, so at the least we'll always be hitting harder if we go for 6 Type-Vs
45 degrees isnt small; 3x45 is 135 degrees
Like a third of firing horizon is blindspots at that point, if Im not misunderstanding the update
Okay
10x it is
Miranda is 8x phasers, 4x torpedoes
Not sure if currentgen or nextgen
EDIT
Currentgen tech
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And when it's in fleet engagements they'll have friends next to them watching their blindspots anyway.
I'm cool with 6
- Location
- Anatolia
No. We are not doing this again.
Ah. Must've forgot about the others. Iirc though, Sayle has stated San Fran is going for standard equipment which means Type-II Phasers.