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Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
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It's called approval voting, and unless it results in a tie it shouldn't be a problem.
Would that mean that both of the votes are counted for those cause if they are wouldn't that make it near impossible for the other option to win or is the other vote only counted if their first option loses?
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We're in first-past-the-post, so the option with the most votes wins, whatever that happens to be and separately from the fact that one person can cast multiple votes.
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
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There's no rule on SV that says you can only ever vote for one option. The questrunner can request people only vote for one, but that's their own duty to enforce.
Also if one person votes A + B out of options A, B, and C it's generally balanced by other people voting B + C or A + C.
It says that first past the post is for one vote per person
Also we need to pick no matter what as many industry options as possible when they show up no matter what wins this vote to beat the Romulans.
[X] Recommend the continued production of the Stingray as a mainline tactical vessel.
Considering its capabilities, unless this is losing badly against the Romulan ships, the combat capability theoretically gained by having a cheaper combat frigate probably gets outweighed by "we don't have to spend time designing something new" - that and I don't think we can get terribly much in the way of worthwhile combat power on a cheaper frame.
Considering its capabilities, unless this is losing badly against the Romulan ships, the combat capability theoretically gained by having a cheaper combat frigate probably gets outweighed by "we don't have to spend time designing something new" - that and I don't think we can get terribly much in the way of worthwhile combat power on a cheaper frame.
So the Star Tre history is that the romulans are an advanced Imperialistic starfaring Empire for millenia right? In comparison the Nausicaan are a fallen civilization(They achieved warp and then something happened to make their Civilization fall apart. I do not remember ever seeing official Nausicaans in Star trek that where not Techno barbarians(pirates Raiders, Smugglers, Slavers, etc.) that raid people more primitive than them for resources. (We see them doing that the most throughout Star trek History.) It is only logical to consider the older and functional state to be superior to pirates that raid primitives for stuff.
It is also Canon that Warbirds had shield that could be weakened by tachyon pulses during the Enterprise era.
I could waste my time to get the stuff you want but really I have a better Idea: Hey @Sayle could you please clarify the following things for us.
1: If you say that the hypothetical frigate fights smaller Romulan warships do you mean Romulan Bird of Preys (AKA Escorts) or Romulan Warbirds(aka Capital ships):
2: In a Hypothetical fight between a romulan warbird and a hypothetical frigate Who would win?
3: Can a Stingray win a fight against a Warbird?
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Thought: If we keep the cost at 19 Industry per hull for our frigate design, then we can produce two frigates and one Stingray per year.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgv7U3GYlDY
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgv7U3GYlDY
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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A good thing to remember is, I don't think we've actually fought the Romulans yet, besides the Endeavour getting clapped. We have at least some data on their warbirds from the recorder, but I'm not sure if there's any way to really tell how a fully-operational NX, Stingray, or this theoretical frigate would do in a true fight.
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[X] Support the construction of a heavily-armed battleship capable of enduring combat with multiple attackers.
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[X] Recommend the continued production of the Stingray as a mainline tactical vessel.
The frigate seems useless? I can't think of any way to make it cheaper than the current stingray aside from pulling off one of the impulse engines and crippling it's manueverability, in retrospect we should have taken the 6phasers option for anti cloaking tactics.
The frigate seems useless? I can't think of any way to make it cheaper than the current stingray aside from pulling off one of the impulse engines and crippling it's manueverability, in retrospect we should have taken the 6phasers option for anti cloaking tactics.
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[X] Advocate for the construction of a minimally expensive combat frigate capable of engaging the small Romulan ships one-on-one.
I want to see if we can manage this. I think it will be better at covering the blind spots of our cruisers than the stingrays, leaving those to defend our space and colonies. Making one big ship and daring them to engage it would be funny but they could just... Not do that.
I want to see if we can manage this. I think it will be better at covering the blind spots of our cruisers than the stingrays, leaving those to defend our space and colonies. Making one big ship and daring them to engage it would be funny but they could just... Not do that.
LunaMoth
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Sarajevo type
The Sarajevo-type starship was a class of warp driven vessel utilized by Earth during the mid-22nd century. A vessel of this class was among the fleet that greeted and escorted Enterprise back to Earth following the Xindi incident in 2154. (ENT: "Storm Front, Part II") The Sarajevo, another...
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List of unnamed Earth starship classes. This type of starship was used by Starfleet during the mid-22nd century. The primary hull was triangular in shape, and had two nacelles mounted port and starboard angled upward from and slightly above the hull. These vessels were equipped with forward and...
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I was looking at memory Alpha, at ships around during the enterprise era, and there were one or two that should be around in 2156; are these still present in this timeline considering that in the previous quest any ships we didn't design still existed?
VicSage
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[X] Support the construction of a heavily-armed battleship capable of enduring combat with multiple attackers.
[X] Advocate for the construction of a minimally expensive combat frigate capable of engaging the small Romulan ships one-on-one.
Now is the time to tie our knowledge together into a cohesive whole. Iterations and refits on the old models have been done, time to create the counterpart to their escort duty.
[X] Advocate for the construction of a minimally expensive combat frigate capable of engaging the small Romulan ships one-on-one.
Now is the time to tie our knowledge together into a cohesive whole. Iterations and refits on the old models have been done, time to create the counterpart to their escort duty.
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Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
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Oh, that's a pretty ship.
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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Keep it below 100k tons and you could probably make a pretty zippy little ship for less than 20 Industry.
[X] Recommend the continued production of the Stingray as a mainline tactical vessel.
I don't think we can afford more than 1 battleship and that doesn't seem like enough
I don't think we can afford more than 1 battleship and that doesn't seem like enough
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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[x] Advocate for the construction of a minimally expensive combat frigate capable of engaging the small Romulan ships one-on-one.
The fact of the matter is that the Romulans are going to be able to have an advantage in an opening salvo and in hitting from unexpected angles.
A battleship represents an extremely valuable, single target that can be severely degraded in combat capability with an opening salvo from a group of cloaked vessels.
A bunch of low-cost combat frigates, on the other hand, mean that any surprise attack will not tip the scales overmuch, and it also means that they can be deployed more flexibly. These combat frigates can be alongside Stingrays or Enterprise-class ships to both bolster their firepower and to counter the potency of a surprise salvo from cloak because they couldn't hit both ships at once.
Alternatively, we could use such frigates and forgo a losing defensive battle against cloaked marauders and instead go on the offensive against meaningful military targets in Romulan space. An Enterprise backed up by a couple of Stingrays and combat frigates means that the Romulans would have to both concentrate their forces in a known location and accept that their surprise attack couldn't hit most of the vessels at once.
Either way, having more numerous ships capable of representing a major threat to a Romulan marauder means that we can deploy them more flexibly, doubling up on their numbers in a given formation/convoy or using them as escorts for larger ships (like the Stingray).
If we're going to build a battleship, we will have to use it for offensive operations that will give the Romulans a black eye.
What we need are escorts and patrol ships, but in large numbers to always have enough combat power present to deter an attack (or defeat an attacker if they try their luck). That means convoys with plentiful escorts, and if the existing fleet we have isn't enough, then we need a higher number of ships rather than smaller numbers of powerful ships.
The fact of the matter is that the Romulans are going to be able to have an advantage in an opening salvo and in hitting from unexpected angles.
A battleship represents an extremely valuable, single target that can be severely degraded in combat capability with an opening salvo from a group of cloaked vessels.
A bunch of low-cost combat frigates, on the other hand, mean that any surprise attack will not tip the scales overmuch, and it also means that they can be deployed more flexibly. These combat frigates can be alongside Stingrays or Enterprise-class ships to both bolster their firepower and to counter the potency of a surprise salvo from cloak because they couldn't hit both ships at once.
Alternatively, we could use such frigates and forgo a losing defensive battle against cloaked marauders and instead go on the offensive against meaningful military targets in Romulan space. An Enterprise backed up by a couple of Stingrays and combat frigates means that the Romulans would have to both concentrate their forces in a known location and accept that their surprise attack couldn't hit most of the vessels at once.
Either way, having more numerous ships capable of representing a major threat to a Romulan marauder means that we can deploy them more flexibly, doubling up on their numbers in a given formation/convoy or using them as escorts for larger ships (like the Stingray).
If we're going to build a battleship, we will have to use it for offensive operations that will give the Romulans a black eye.
What we need are escorts and patrol ships, but in large numbers to always have enough combat power present to deter an attack (or defeat an attacker if they try their luck). That means convoys with plentiful escorts, and if the existing fleet we have isn't enough, then we need a higher number of ships rather than smaller numbers of powerful ships.
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