[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
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[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
- Location
- USoA
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
Well we kicked the old Connie into the ret-gon basket may as well shake things up more.
Well we kicked the old Connie into the ret-gon basket may as well shake things up more.
- Location
- Most likely California
[X] Large Secondary Hull (190,000 Tons) [Canon: Constitution-class] [3 Forward Launchers Max]
Seems like a good compromise choice. We don't lose a Torpedo slot, and still have space for internals for post-war use.
As a side note, I find it funny that, after all the debate about 'meant to be a purpose built warship' vs 'It is going to be the future TOS Enterprise' that I saw during the previous neck-to-neck vote, the most popular choice so far in this vote is the one most likely to destine it to never be more than a warship. Then again, I only skimmed that debate by the end, so it might have just been a few vocal voters in a back-and-forth.
Seems like a good compromise choice. We don't lose a Torpedo slot, and still have space for internals for post-war use.
As a side note, I find it funny that, after all the debate about 'meant to be a purpose built warship' vs 'It is going to be the future TOS Enterprise' that I saw during the previous neck-to-neck vote, the most popular choice so far in this vote is the one most likely to destine it to never be more than a warship. Then again, I only skimmed that debate by the end, so it might have just been a few vocal voters in a back-and-forth.
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[X] Large Secondary Hull (190,000 Tons) [Canon: Constitution-class] [3 Forward Launchers Max]
A lot of people may have just given up and decided there will never be a Constitution-class Enterprise. We already killed it.
A lot of people may have just given up and decided there will never be a Constitution-class Enterprise. We already killed it.
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- Location
- west
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
While more internal space normally means more capabilities, more capabilities are not called for in the design brief.
Our brief has the following priorities:
-Hit hard
-Take hits
-Cheap
Engineering and Science capabilities were a 'we won't object to having them' item.
Boosting speed means it gets to the places where it can hit hard faster, while less internal space means it can be made cheaper. If we were going for an explorer or even a ship that had a requirement for doing scientific missions while not on military patrols going for larger internals for more labs and cargo would make sense, but that's not how the brief phrased things, so going smaller and faster is the way to go.
While more internal space normally means more capabilities, more capabilities are not called for in the design brief.
Our brief has the following priorities:
-Hit hard
-Take hits
-Cheap
Engineering and Science capabilities were a 'we won't object to having them' item.
Boosting speed means it gets to the places where it can hit hard faster, while less internal space means it can be made cheaper. If we were going for an explorer or even a ship that had a requirement for doing scientific missions while not on military patrols going for larger internals for more labs and cargo would make sense, but that's not how the brief phrased things, so going smaller and faster is the way to go.
- Location
- The Void
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
- Location
- America
[X] Integrated Secondary Hull (200,000 Tons) [2 Forward Launcher Max]
[X] Large Secondary Hull (190,000 Tons) [Canon: Constitution-class] [3 Forward Launchers Max]
@Sayle Does underslung secondary hull look like
Or does it look like Oberth class?
[X] Large Secondary Hull (190,000 Tons) [Canon: Constitution-class] [3 Forward Launchers Max]
@Sayle Does underslung secondary hull look like
Or does it look like Oberth class?
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The Oberth class' underslung hull seems like it might outmass the Oberth's saucer outright. For what we're building it'll be around, like, 1/4 the mass of the entire ship, so a lot smaller, relatively.
KleverKil'Vanya
Ortillery Operator
Yup I'm just checking out until the next ship at this point.
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
Interestingly enough 180kt is the same tonnage as the Saladin except here we've got 2 nacelles to the Saladin's 1 plus an engineering section all while also using a 140m saucer like the Saladin.
I think it's a pretty cool look at how far tech has come in the last 2 decades since the Saladin was first on the drawing board back in 2202.
Interestingly enough 180kt is the same tonnage as the Saladin except here we've got 2 nacelles to the Saladin's 1 plus an engineering section all while also using a 140m saucer like the Saladin.
I think it's a pretty cool look at how far tech has come in the last 2 decades since the Saladin was first on the drawing board back in 2202.
- Location
- America
I'm asking more about the secondary engineering hull deciding to "jut out in front of the bow and be attached by twin side struts" than the proportions. It's one thing for the constitution to look different, but it's another to look downright ugly.
Like, if we could get a preview of sorts, that would be nice.
Chargone
Invisable operator
- Location
- New Zealand
[X] Underslung Secondary Hull (180,000 Tons) [3 Forward Launchers Max] [+0.2 Sprint]
Even without hard numbers, low weight should still help with the impulse engines, and that and sprint speed are both very tactically relevant. Meanwhile low mass Should also help with cost (a bit) and more importantly with parallel/rapid production.
And, of course, depending on the specifics either a two/one split on launchers or going all in on triple rapid fire launchers are both great options, depending on if we want max bang for our buck or just straight up max bang (going by the calculations up-thread, 3xRF is more firepower than the canon constitution class, while the 2/1 split on launchers is less than canon, though between our phaser arcs and agility (if we don't screw that up) we should be able to Apply that damage more consistently/constantly while also avoiding more of the return fire).
Even without hard numbers, low weight should still help with the impulse engines, and that and sprint speed are both very tactically relevant. Meanwhile low mass Should also help with cost (a bit) and more importantly with parallel/rapid production.
And, of course, depending on the specifics either a two/one split on launchers or going all in on triple rapid fire launchers are both great options, depending on if we want max bang for our buck or just straight up max bang (going by the calculations up-thread, 3xRF is more firepower than the canon constitution class, while the 2/1 split on launchers is less than canon, though between our phaser arcs and agility (if we don't screw that up) we should be able to Apply that damage more consistently/constantly while also avoiding more of the return fire).
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