Starfleet Design Bureau

I think out of all the ships we've made so far, the one I would want a dedicated quest for the most is the Century class.
Me too.

I like that it is the most armed ship in the quest, so I like to see some variants of it, like a more science-oriented exploratory vessel or hell, just a prototype testbed for all the prototypes that will be made.
 
I think the Renaissance-class might be the most interesting to have a quest based around, since that was our starting design and the first divergence in canon.
 
If I'm reading this correctly:
targets "below" and in the bow arc can be hit by 8
Targets "above and in the bow arc can get hit by 4
Targets" below" and in the aft arc can be hit by 4
Targets "above" and in the aft arc can be hit by 8
Targets "below" and in the port/starboard arcs can be hit by 6
Targets "above" and in the port/starboard arcs can get hit by 2
Beautiful. This time at least Enterprise will have a fighting chance and worthy of being called a cruiser.
 
Now all we need is Point Defense Weapons. I hated that Star Trek went down the Battletech route. All big guns and no AMS, no CIWS or AMRAAM equivalents
 
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Now all we need is Point Defense Weapons. I hated that Star Trek went down the Battletech route. All big guns and no AMS, no CIWS or AMRAAM equivalents
Phasers work pretty much perfectly for point defense to be honest, there's no reason to have dedicated point defense guns when the ships main guns can shoot down small fighters and torpedos just fine.
 
Me too.

I like that it is the most armed ship in the quest, so I like to see some variants of it, like a more science-oriented exploratory vessel or hell, just a prototype testbed for all the prototypes that will be made.
Sounds legit, we do need to be more different, and we are going to have to make scout ships as well, with less armor than the originals.
 
Phasers work pretty much perfectly for point defense to be honest, there's no reason to have dedicated point defense guns when the ships main guns can shoot down small fighters and torpedos just fine.
Well, aside from freeing up the main guns to shoot other, bigger, things instead.
The the answer is still probably just "more phasers!" though.
 
Phasers work pretty much perfectly for point defense to be honest, there's no reason to have dedicated point defense guns when the ships main guns can shoot down small fighters and torpedos just fine.
No. Phaser cannons shooting a missile aren't killing larger more important targets, an enemy ship for example. Star Trek ships have a limited number of cannons and fire rate. Phasers are also never used as AMS in a battle. You need dedicated nodes to deal with missiles, fighters and drone swarms.
 
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The out-of-universe reasons really boil down to a few things. Star Trek began before anti-missile/torpedo point-defense was really a thing back in the 1960s. CGI for TNG and before made it prohibitively expensive to create point defense action. After that, the story setting seems to have settled on letting shields handle torpedo impacts.

In-universe, it seems like directed energy weapons are the standard primary weapons. Likely everybody figured out that if someone spent time/energy/hull space to eliminate vulnerability to torpedoes people just switched over to energy weapons and not be much worse off.

Some time during TNG's season 4 it was established that photon torpedoes have some sort of shielding as well, which could mean that torpedoes always had shielding. It explains why a torpedo could match shield modulation to bypass shields. With this shielding, it is possible that weaker energy weapons dedicated for point-defense is insufficient to destroy a torpedo and requires a full power weapon.
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PS: It turns out that the first Phalanx CIWS prototype debuted in 1973, after TOS in 1966.
 
Stingray-class: A Vulcan Perspective
Omake: Soval and the Stingray

As the Ambassador to Humanity for over two decades, Soval was considered by his people to be an expert on humanity. On their motivations and what their governments were going to do. It was...trying at times. The Humans were a conundrum- the arrogance of the Andorians, the stubborn pride of the Tellarites. One moment as aggressive as the Klingons, but then moments later they embrace logic like a Vulcan. Honestly, they reminded him of his own people. Mostly. And then there were moments like this...

Moments when he stared at the plans for the human's first Warp 3 class vessel on his desk display. He looked at his adjunct, T'Pol, and raised an eyebrow.

"Is the information correct?"

"Yes, it appears so. We received these plans as a...courtesy from the United Earth government," she stated after a moment's pause," We confirmed the information through our own intelligence systems. They are correct."

"But...this isn't a cargo ship," Soval said as he tapped the display," This has three forward-mounted low-yield particle projectors, a plethora of torpedo tubes... and very little cargo space. Considering what the Humans are capable of, this is a military ship."

"Yes, I voiced my observation to the United Earth representative- a Captain Leonard. He shrugged his shoulders and stated that Starfleet had requested a cargo ship and that , I quote, "Those idjits decided that a patrol ship'd be cooler. Not that I can blame them.". I took the liberty of running what he said through the translation matrix, and I believe he is saying that the Starfleet ship designers went against their requested design."

"And were those designers replaced?"

"No. They were given a week of vacation and the naming rights to the classification of ship."

"Why? They disobeyed orders."

"I believe the human aphorism is: close enough. At least, that is what I was informed."

If he weren't a Vulcan, Soval would have pinched his brow and sighed. Instead, he merely tilted his head slightly. "Interesting. Why did they choose: Stingray for the classification name? And the second ship: the Steve Irwin? I have not heard that name before."

"The vessel apparently resembles an Earth aquatic fish."

"A dangerous fish, I assume."

"Not particularly."

"They named a warship after a not-particularly dangerous fish?"

"Yes."

"And Steve Irwin? A noted warrior?"

"A historic conservationist who died to an unexpected confluence of events that ended with a Stingray killing him."

"Is this some sort of mockery?"

"I have been assured by Captain Leonard that it is considered a sincere honor on their part."

"Am I to understand that the United Earth Government asked their Starfleet to build a cargo ship. And, instead, they built a military patrol ship that they named after a fairly non-dangerous aquatic animal? And, they named the second vessel after an individual who died of this non-dangerous aquatic animal?"

"It does appear so."

It was days like this that Soval was reminded that, whether they reminded him of Vulcans, the Humans were truly alien. Or insane.

Perhaps both.
 
To be fair the Stingray is a short range ship made for garrison duties, and it's named after a fish that isn't all that dangerous unless you annoy or step on it, seems fitting.
 
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