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First nice and second Here be dragons it's both very good and very sadGreat chapter, maybe the PRT should get a sign saying "here be dragons!"
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FaerieKnight79
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Comedians are the World's Policemen. Because they walk softly and carry a big Schtick.
Boo! Boo I say! I was taking a big bite of meaty pasta when I read this. I almost had pasta all over my computer screen, keyboard, and flying out my nose. Well, technically it's not "meaty pasta". The can says
Chef Boy-Ar-Dee said:
Comedians are the World's Policemen. Because they walk softly and carry a big Schtick.
*Sigh*
*Dopeslap*
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Pretty sure they're talking about Carol not letting Taylor use Restoration on Mark.
Kryslin
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To clarify :
The initial discussion was about Taylor dropping Greater Restoration on Mark Dallon. However, Carol could probably stand to have one dropped on her as well. The problem being, without their consent, it could be spun into Assault with Powers. Whether or not it would stand up in court, who knows? However, if there is one thing Carol knows how to do, it's raise a legal stink.
Re: What Carol's legal specialty is, I don't know. However, I think it's canon that she works at the same law firm as Alan Barnes. She could specialize in parahuman law, which kind of makes sense. Mainly, defending New Wave from the results of Vicky's "Enthusiasm".
*edit* If the wiki is accurate, Carol is a criminal lawyer, and does work at the same firm as Alan Barnes.
The initial discussion was about Taylor dropping Greater Restoration on Mark Dallon. However, Carol could probably stand to have one dropped on her as well. The problem being, without their consent, it could be spun into Assault with Powers. Whether or not it would stand up in court, who knows? However, if there is one thing Carol knows how to do, it's raise a legal stink.
Re: What Carol's legal specialty is, I don't know. However, I think it's canon that she works at the same law firm as Alan Barnes. She could specialize in parahuman law, which kind of makes sense. Mainly, defending New Wave from the results of Vicky's "Enthusiasm".
*edit* If the wiki is accurate, Carol is a criminal lawyer, and does work at the same firm as Alan Barnes.
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1) Yeah, I realized that on re-reading. Probably complaining to the PRT. It's a dumb fucking thing to complain about, but people complain about dumber.
2) If her House had been damaged, she could have filed a civil complaint, yes. As a lawyer she should know that all she can do is make the report; the city prosecutor decides if formal charges are brought. The lawn is a shakier proposition, given that the damage would have been caused by "walking on it."
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i though Taylor was going to this meet and great thing at New Wave's place was because Dean wasn't coming? Also considering the fact that she is a ward New Wave really doesn't have any ground to stand on in terms of authority on her other then the family of some of her friends and really have no business giving Taylor the riot act on her Lung fight
I like the earlier one better:
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
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So, if a Combat Situation occurs where Taylor is using her powers as a healer and can reasonably cast either Greater Restoration or another spell with a similar effect (up to and including using a bloody Wish to undo the effects of Bakuda's bombing spree on everyone in the city) then she would likely be covered by Good Samaritan Laws, right? (For the wish itself, after seeing glass statues left by a bomb attack, "I wish everyone in the city was effected by a Greater Restore spell" would be good wording, and would cover not only the petrification of the Glass Bombs, but also any other eligible exotic effects.)
FaerieKnight79
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I don't think that's quite the tone the PRT want. Then again, Tia used a variation with Miss Militia.
Wouldn't it be hilariously ironic if this also depowered every parahuman in the city because their power is being granted by a parasitic entity?
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i'm reading a story right now where that motto came about because Hogwarts' wards are powered by "the last of the Elder Dragons", that the founders had imprisoned in a small pocket universe. problem is, that prison is not quite perfect, and the dragon has been picking away at it for the last few centuries. it wasn't a nice dragon 1500 years ago, and it's only gotten angrier since.
Jonn Wolfe
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Carol needs sooooo much therapy. Ye Gods. A toxic home life is an understatement for Amy. Still, glad that Taylor asked Dean about it. And I find it amusing that Dean warned her to not hurt Amy. Has Taylor given off hints of attraction towards our grumbly healer?
I am now picturing a Gold Dragon wearing Ninja Gear, with shuriken stars and ninjato.
That image is HILARIOUS!
Hrm. How does one accidentally on purpose provide some mental healing to someone who would reject it claiming that they don't have a problem? AoE healing after an endbringer fight, maybe?
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Is there anyone around who can inflict brain cancer on her? Or maybe make her think she has it?
Time for Taylor to talk to Tiamat about her concerns for Amy and have a "hilarious misunderstanding," methinks...
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The Wiki is accurate, however the canon is bullshit. A law-firm like that wouldn't specialize in both criminal and divorce law, and Alan is a divorce lawyer.
Yes, and filing a report is called "making a complaint."
Also, there's a difference between "walked on," and "torn the fuck up by massive-ass dragon claws." Could she lose the suit? Sure. But it has enough prima facie merit to not be dismissed out of hand as frivolous if there was substantial damage that needed a landscaper to come in and repair.
That's an active connection. It might temporarily depower them while the Shard goes WTF?! and reboots the link, at most.
Depends on if she has access to Heal or Mass Heal. Those are higher level spells, but heal for quite a bit (70 on one target and 700, spread as you choose across a 60ft AoE, respectively) and come with Restoration built in.
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Unless of course the Restoration (or Remove Disease) spell doesn't treat the connection as a harmful effect to be removed from the body. In which case, the shard would be going "WTF" as it metaphorically stares at the severed link. Especially possible if done as part of a Wish, since those rarely work out exactly as you planned.
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Wishes are.... tricky. In general, the more specific the phrasing of the wish, the more likely it will not screw the wisher over. Usually, using a wish to cast a lower level spell over a larger defined area, or even to cast a spell that would not be available due to class, will work out alright if the spell is identified by name, and will avoid the usual penalties if cast as a spell. Wishing for a spell like effect is trickier, but may work out right. Being vague at all is BEGGING for fate to screw you over.
One fanfic author described his old D&D settings by mentioning that the God with dominion over Wish spells in those worlds is a CN Trickster God of Mischief. Most DMs don't bother to define things out that well, but in general, when a poorly defined Wish is granted it will be in a manor that is most amusing to someone other then the one making the Wish.
One fanfic author described his old D&D settings by mentioning that the God with dominion over Wish spells in those worlds is a CN Trickster God of Mischief. Most DMs don't bother to define things out that well, but in general, when a poorly defined Wish is granted it will be in a manor that is most amusing to someone other then the one making the Wish.
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Or as the opening of one of my stories puts it, Magic is alive. And it doesn't really like granting Wishes for petty things. And sentient beings that are granting the wish? Yeah, pushing your luck is not a good idea. Nor is annoying them.
EDIT: Here is the passage I mentioned.
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Garreon
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Really Carol? Fucking really? I know you have PTSD out of the ass but come on! Im pretty sure she looked at her track record as a ward, which so far has been stellar except for that Lung issue but her judgement of the situation at the time was sound. If Taylor was a Rogue i could understand her suspicion, but she is a government hero, she fits nicely in that little White and Black morality bubble in which she so delusionally lives, but you are treating her with suspicion?
Agh i can't stand Carol Dallon i really can't. And Lady Photon, while a little better is just an enabler. Had it been my sister i would have scheduled therapy and gone with her to the sessions till she confronted her problems, but noooooo New Wave cant have bad press!
I hate how people forget that Parahumans are also Humans and are not perfect or above the entrapments of Humanity, i blame the PR team of the PRT on this btw.
I agree with you, and what makes it funnier about her trust issues is that she acting like the ones who kidnapped her and Sarah towards Amy and she doesnt realize it. I mean come on there is something called nature over nurture. Amy may have been a villain's daughter but she never was exposed to the underworld by her father, what Carol should have thought when she took Amy in even if it was gritting her teeth should have been, "If i raise her like Victoria with a heroic mindset she wont turn like her father and the heroes gain an asset if she ever gets powers. It will be a drag but it will be a final fuck you to Marquis" (not that he would have minded but eh)
She is a Lawyer that specializes in Parahuman Law, however i dont remember if that is Canon or Fanon.
First splattered by the law and then splattered by Victoria. No matter how she may be pre leviathan and everything that made her grow up but she is a sister bear to Amy. And she is not stupid, even during her glory girl days, careless, yes, stupid, no. The moment she hears the tipical bad seed approach that Carol takes with Amy she is going to dig a trench and take out the heavy artillery against Carol, it wouldnt be out of character for her
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There are general practice firms that will handle almost anything that walks through the door. I've known attorneys who handled both divorce and criminal work. There are also full service 'big law' firms that have actual specialists in a wide variety of areas. The idea there is that wealthy clients can retain one firm that can handle whatever legal needs arise.
I think you and @Ferretshock might be getting civil and criminal procedure mixed up a bit, but it's not really important to the story.
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So, @FaerieKnight79, in the context of that story, does that mean a Wish to avert a disaster, cure a pandemic, or help a great many people will likely be granted in a way that least screws over the selfless (or at least, benevolent) wisher? Say, a wish that an incoming tsunami would not strike, or a forest fire would be extinguished, or that an erupting volcano would stop erupting, for instance? After all, even though these wishes would benefit the one making the wish, they aren't exactly selfish in that they would also benefit everyone in the area...
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I once ran into a bit of speculation/fanon about why Carol chose to into law. It posited that it was still some of the earlier days of parahumans and before the Endbringers showed up and started attacking regularly, so a lot of the rules surrounding them and how they should be treated was still up in the air. There may have been talk about rounding up and imprisoning all parahumans by some lawmakers, and even if it was just heresay, the possibility made Carol fear for her and her family's freedom, remembering her trigger event of being held captive with Sarah. So she studied to become a lawyer to defend herself and secure that freedom, to have a bit of control of the potential situation.
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Rajvik_wolfboy
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that sounds like the Carol we all know and loathe.