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WakingSleeper said:
It's incidents like this that make you wonder if the guy who came up with the plan was on something when he devised said plan.
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Kryslin said:
"Intelligence or common sense is not a requirement for criminal behavior," Dragon noted. "Two blocks east is the Belgian Consulate and regional US State Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs office."
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Not only this, The South Korean Consulate is within that 2 block distance as well, along with Atlanta PD's District 5 station and 1 CNN Plaza. So, yes, this is going out live on CNN as it goes down. I wouldn't be surprised that the FBI offices aren't all that far away, either.

Whee, such chaos! Odds of Contessa paying a visit to the leadership of "Humanity FIrst?"

"Certainly, Yes."
 
It's sad to me that despite it looking like "Humanity First" has triggered it's being wiped out, people are such that a similar organization or organizations will spring up to replace it. I guess I'm a little cynical there.
 
@Harry Leferts : "It is decidedly so."

For everyone else:
Someone Wiser than I said:
It's entirely impossible to please everyone at the same time with anything.​
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For me to attempt to do so, is quite frankly beyond my abilities and a waste of time for all involved.

So, for all involved, or who feel tempted to respond, please let it sit for a day before responding. Or better yet, drop the subject entirely.

I am more than aware that not everyone is going to like portions of my story. I accept this, and carry on.

If you feel the need to offer criticism, clearly state what is wrong and what needs to be done to correct it in a civil fashion.

Thank you, and good night.
 
Kryslin said:
If you feel the need to offer criticism, clearly state what is wrong and what needs to be done to correct it in a civil fashion.
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Thisthisthisthis! *happy torpedo beats engaging*

Being rude gets you nowhere, and positive engagement brings authors joy, especially if it leads to improvements in one's skill.
 
I have to wonder how many precogs saw this coming, saw the hilarity of them choosing the Worst Possible Location(tm), and realized they didn't need to do ANYTHING.
 
Weaver drops down from the ceiling on one of her more substantial strands of silk.

"I told Naurelin there was a 89% chance of something bad happening in Atlanta while she was there, but does anyone listen to me? Noooo...." There's a bit of silence as the young hero sulks for a bit. "I need a root beer float."
 
Sandy River DL said:
What about USN Standard coffee ice cream?
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"Anything with caffeine in it isn't good for me, even a little bit." Dinah admits. "Right after I'd been changed, I had some cherry cola. I don't remember the next hour, but Mom said I was staggering around like Dad does after poker night with Uncle Roy. She got most of the breakables out of the way in time. I also didn't like the headache I had for the rest of the afternoon."
 
Kryslin said:
"Anything with caffeine in it isn't good for me, even a little bit." Dinah admits. "Right after I'd been changed, I had some cherry cola. I don't remember the next hour, but Mom said I was staggering around like Dad does after poker night with Uncle Roy. She got most of the breakables out of the way in time. I also didn't like the headache I had for the rest of the afternoon."
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*quietly hides fresh batch of coffee ice cream and pretends there was never a plan to get silly drunk spidergirl shenanigans*
 
aeroprime said:
No. It is a problem of the fact that English doesn't work like that
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That is, however, how new words work. And it's not like English is a consistent and well put together language either. Just roll with the neopronouns that you can actually pronounce without having to find a pronuniation guide like the ones that use 'x' in places that are hard to gronk.
 
Rule 2: Don’t Be Hateful - It is not up to you to determine the validity of someone else's pronouns
Sandy River DL said:
That is, however, how new words work. And it's not like English is a consistent and well put together language either. Just roll with the neopronouns that you can actually pronounce without having to find a pronuniation guide like the ones that use 'x' in places that are hard to gronk.
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No, no I will not roll with these nonsensical neopronouns. Mostly because they have no consistency and change every 5 seconds.
 
aeroprime said:
No, no I will not roll with these nonsensical neopronouns. Mostly because they have no consistency and change every 5 seconds.
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People who use neopronouns tend to stick to the ones they're using. You're just conflating the entire collection as being interchangeable. Like, there's ones that indicate having both male and female aspects, one that deal with a state of being genderless, ones for people who do not identify with any classic gender but still feel they have one, and so much more.
 
@Sandy River DL @aeroprime :

As I have been writing Spirit for the last 13 years (and Kryslin for 35), the use of the pronouns for Chakats - Shi and Hir - trip me up. Yes, they're racially specific, thought the furry community has borrowed them for use with functional hermaphrodites in general. Chakats, and the writing guide for them, have been around since the mid 90's.

However, as I can see this discussion going back and forth, could you agree to disagree on the matter and quietly drop it? Please?
 
Sandy River DL said:
People who use neopronouns tend to stick to the ones they're using. You're just conflating the entire collection as being interchangeable. Like, there's ones that indicate having both male and female aspects, one that deal with a state of being genderless, ones for people who do not identify with any classic gender but still feel they have one, and so much more.
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The problem, I believe, is that there might be dozens or hundreds of these pronouns, but nobody can agree on which ones apply to anything. You ask 50 people what a given "neopronoun" means and when it should be used, you might get 50 or more answers. And until one word is generally accepted to mean something specific and be the one to use in that situation, none of them are "real" words. Because that's also how new words work. Anyone can make up a word and claim "this is what it means", but unless they manage to convince the majority of people that the word is real and means what it's claimed to mean, the word doesn't actually mean anything.

Personally, you can use whatever the hell pronouns you want for yourself and It's no skin off my back. I may not know what the hell your chosen pronoun is suppose to mean, or even recognize it. But it's your right to use whatever pronoun you want. You can refer to yourself as "wall" and treat "wall" as a gender pronoun for all I care. Just don't expect me to then use your chosen pronoun if it's something that seems silly, nonsensical, or arbitrary.

That said, if the pronoun in question is suppose to be racially specific to this fictional humanoid species? Then that is a valid reason to insist on a specific pronoun set.
 
Cons in general: Thou shalt not interrupt the Con. The participants many become something so far beyond cranky as to mimic true evil. Put a bunch of tech people together, with more than a few of them being actual tinkers, and the number of rather *oh so very deadly* ideas they come up with in retribution will be a glorious thing to behold - unless you happen to be the ones interrupting, at which point it's more a case of 'Oh Shi...' and you don't get to finish the thought because you're not capable of thinking much of anything when you've suddenly got holes in your body/head from the newly built plasma/laser/lightning gun, have missing/cooked pieces of yourself from the void/plasma/spacial displacement grenades, or got yourself crushed by a gravity platform at over 40Gs.

WTF were the "humanity first" people thinking when the attacked a Con the first place? Even if there wasn't a police HQ/military branches/consulates nearby, attacking a tech con with tinker attendees is the height of stupidity all by itself. Darwin awards for everyone! Lets make sure they never reproduce. (you didn't actually *need* those danglies, right?)
 
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I kind of expected some of what happens in the CTC chapter. I was not expecting the events of said happenings being influenced by (not) Neutral Good and Eccentric Good
 
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Stop: Respect what other people choose about themselves
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    • respect what other people choose about themselves
    aeroprime said:
    No, no I will not roll with these nonsensical neopronouns. Mostly because they have no consistency and change every 5 seconds.
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    This post has been infracted for violating Rule 2: Don't Be Hateful. A person's pronouns are that person's choice and no-one else's, and part of an important determination of a person's self-identity and self-expression. Painting them all as nonsense that's changed on a whim doesn't fly.

    There are a few other posts after this one that are very questionable about respecting this issue. I will for the moment content myself with a verbal warning. It does not matter what pronouns a person chooses for themselves. As long as they choose them and express that choice, as far as Sufficient Velocity is concerned those pronouns are valid and to be respected until told otherwise by the person whom the pronouns apply to. It is no one else's place to judge the pronouns, it is no one else's place to declare the validity of said pronouns, and attacking a person's pronouns or the concept of non-standard pronouns violates Rule 2: Don't Be Hateful through making the site immediately more unwelcoming for people using non-standard pronouns.

    We cannot control what one thinks in their own time and will not try to, but while you are on SV you will respect the pronoun choices of others and the ability for one to make that choice, and keep any denigration of the same that you might be inclined to off of the site.

    Thank you, and please have a pleasant day.
     
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    • I wholeheartedly agree. Even if it did change all the time (IT DOESN'T), it would still be valid. Some people are still discovering who they are.
     
    Kryslin said:
    The problem with upsetting Villains, the man in charge noted, was that most of them cared little for the law and things like proportional response. Case in point was one man who was currently getting overrun with various small rodents and some large rats.
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    This amuses me FAR too much. The terrorist assholes suddenly care about rule of law and proportional response when it's THEIR asses on the line :p
     
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