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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Char sheet got updated yesterday, as far as I can tell just ages. Do Apprentices not get their specialities completed until after the journey-manning journey?
 
Went and compared to an older version of the page. It's not ages, that didn't get touched, it's the Hearth Guard's new position names that got updated. Basically, their leader is now called the Hearth Lord, the champion is called the Fire Keeper, and characters got placed on a line of their own rather than sharing it with their member type.

It went from this:
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Members:
x20 Former Huskarls [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x10 Former Valkyrie Guard [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x3 Longbeard Miners [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x2 Priests of Gazul [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Characters of Note: (Logain)
x2 Priests of Grungni [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x3 Priests of Grimnir [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x23 Longbeard Rangers [Runed Pure Gromril and Elder Frostwyrm Hide Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Characters of Note: (Kemli Imraksson)
x4 Master Engineers [Runed Pure Gromril Armour and Elder Frostwyrm Hide Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Capable of running x1 Siege Weapons/Artillery (3 Engineers per piece of Siege Equipment/Artillery).
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To this:
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Company Commander/Hearth Lord: Rudil Donnarsson
Company Champion/Fire Keeper: Vacant
Members:
x20 Former Huskarls [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Characters of Note:
- Rudil Donnarsson
x10 Former Valkyrie Guard [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x3 Longbeard Miners [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x2 Priests of Gazul [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Characters of Note:
- Logain
x2 Priests of Grungni [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x3 Priests of Grimnir [Runed Pure Gromril Armour, Weapons and Equipment]
x23 Longbeard Rangers [Runed Pure Gromril and Elder Frostwyrm Hide Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Characters of Note:
- Kemli Imraksson
x4 Master Engineers [Runed Pure Gromril Armour and Elder Frostwyrm Hide Armour, Weapons and Equipment], Capable of running x1 Siege Weapons/Artillery (3 Engineers per piece of Siege Equipment/Artillery).
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Essentially, no big difference, except Commander and Champion get their own entry. And characters of note are a bit more easy to notice, what with having a line to themselves.
 
@soulcake I was just reading about Fjolla's masterwork about the master rune given by Lady Gimma and I was wondering with five runelords in the hold if it was possible to set up a student exchange program in the future or will it be too much of an anathema to the dawi?
 
Remake said:
@soulcake I was just reading about Fjolla's masterwork about the master rune given by Lady Gimma and I was wondering with five runelords in the hold if it was possible to set up a student exchange program in the future or will it be too much of an anathema to the dawi?
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Taking on a journeying dwarf and teaching them a few things seems acceptable... We just need to come across someone suitably talented.
But tbh, I'd rather trade with the runelords than have new characters introduced. We don't usually know much about other runesmiths apprentices, other than the Dolgilings, and that because they are apprenticing under Snerra and Dwalin.
 
IronFist said:
Taking on a journeying dwarf and teaching them a few things seems acceptable... We just need to come across someone suitably talented.
But tbh, I'd rather trade with the runelords than have new characters introduced. We don't usually know much about other runesmiths apprentices, other than the Dolgilings, and that because they are apprenticing under Snerra and Dwalin.
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I was thinking more about creating the program with rune lords directly. It will give us more contacts in the wider community maybe spread the school of odd and get some options for increasing our standing there.
 
Remake said:
@soulcake I was just reading about Fjolla's masterwork about the master rune given by Lady Gimma and I was wondering with five runelords in the hold if it was possible to set up a student exchange program in the future or will it be too much of an anathema to the dawi?
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Not how it works. Fjolla managed that on her own.

The opinion is that a Dwarf ought not to be tossed about between multiple masters. Very sith, one master for an apprentice though a master can have many apprentices.
IronFist said:
Taking on a journeying dwarf and teaching them a few things seems acceptable... We just need to come across someone suitably talented.
But tbh, I'd rather trade with the runelords than have new characters introduced. We don't usually know much about other runesmiths apprentices, other than the Dolgilings, and that because they are apprenticing under Snerra and Dwalin.
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Fjolla came to Gemma on her own initiative.
 
There is one thing I have started to wonder that can be summed up in one word: collaboration.

Has there EVER been something that two (or more) Runelords actually worked on, together? Considering what they can do when working alone, within their specialties, just what wonders could they create if they work on something together? This probably needs very special circumstances. One of the most limiting factors is actually getting more than one Runelord (that respect each other) in one place long enough. Considering how rare Runelords are that limits it quite a bit.

In our Karak we have five.....and they do have worked side by side long enough to indeed respect each other quite a lot.

So, Loremaster of the thread, would it be possible to do a collaborative creation with one or more of the other Runelords? We have seen something like that hinted at with the Brotherhood of Gromril/Adamant but nothing truly concrete yet, as far as I can remember.

Because I would love for Snorri to set an example for that so that the message of unity/camaraderie is carried further. And just imagining what wonders several Runelords working together could create tickles my imagination fiercely.
 
nope.

Runesmiths are, though they would never admit it, divas who can't stand anyone getting in the way of their vision.

Runelords even more so.
 
Isn't the Brotherhood of Dron effectively that, given how we can get them to help us with research products and created an adamant smelter by combining their designs with ours?
 
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soulcake said:
nope.

Runesmiths are, though they would never admit it, divas who can't stand anyone getting in the way of their vision.

Runelords even more so.
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I imagine there also aren't many projects where crossing over specialities like that would make a lot of difference.
I assume there are kings who have armour from one Runelord and a weapon from another, but that doesn't really feel like the spirit W00KY was going for.
 
I think there's also these to consider:
-First: Two runelords that trust each other to work together probably have already traded Runes.
-Second: There can only be one master rune, so the shared component can only be the Lesser runes

The only way i could see something like this happen is as a symbolic gesture: two or three runesmiths scribing runes on the same item as a sign of kinship/frienship.

Well, that or Twins. They might collaborate more closely.
 
soulcake said:
nope.

Runesmiths are, though they would never admit it, divas who can't stand anyone getting in the way of their vision.

Runelords even more so.
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Does the same apply to masters and ex-apprentices?

I'm not thinking of the same item, more something like us making a gronti, Fjolla making it a talisman, Dolgi making it armour, etc., and it being able to count as a set.

On the subject of gronti, would it be possible to make sub parts of it be runic items? For example, making the eyes of a gronti a talisman? Or is that potentially something for further down the Mind/Movement of Things chain, once we've investigated prosthetic organs more...
 
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Alratan said:
On the subject of gronti, would it be possible to make sub parts of it be runic items? For example, making the eyes of a gronti a talisman? Or is that potentially something for further down the Mind/Movement of Things chain, once we've investigated prosthetic organs more...
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I guess it would depend.
Placing a talisman instead of the eye and having it work like just a talisman should be perfectly doable, but it's just aesthetics, I think.

The eyeball would also have to be a separate from the Gronti too... so it's just a roundabout way of putting a normal medallion around the Gronti's neck. I wouldn't think it allows us to put more talismans on a Gronti.
 
Alratan said:
Does the same apply to masters and ex-apprentices?
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Yes.
Alratan said:
I'm not thinking of the same item, more something like us making a gronti, Fjolla making it a talisman, Dolgi making it armour, etc., and it being able to count as a set.
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Skegg and Skjoll, the shield and axe twins, are noted for it and there was a very large amount of rabble-rousing over it. Note these two are TWINS, trained under the SAME master, and are a very noticeable outlier and should not be considered anywhere near the norm. So basically incredibly, almost infinitely unlikely for you to find someone as in sync with your way of thinking. Magda and Modi your fellow Brotherhood Members, also twins and also taught by the same Master, don't do this.

Alratan said:
On the subject of gronti, would it be possible to make sub parts of it be runic items? For example, making the eyes of a gronti a talisman? Or is that potentially something for further down the Mind/Movement of Things chain, once we've investigated prosthetic organs more...
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Resulting sub-parts wouldn't be under the effect of whatever Runes you used on the Gronti would be. You can't link Runes like that, the best you can do is have synchronous/harmonious effects that result in combos or something like the Rune of Direction which is basically replacing the verbal component by projecting your thoughts to another Rune (though without interacting with it). It'd basically be like giving the Gronti one working eye and a cool magical glass eye.
 
soulcake said:
Skegg and Skjoll, the shield and axe twins, are noted for it and there was a very large amount of rabble-rousing over it. Note these two are TWINS, trained under the SAME master, and are a very noticeable outlier and should not be considered anywhere near the norm. So basically incredibly, almost infinitely unlikely for you to find someone as in sync with your way of thinking. Magda and Modi your fellow Brotherhood Members, also twins and also taught by the same Master, don't do this.
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We'll just have to see what Siggrun and Jolla do.
 
soulcake said:
Resulting sub-parts wouldn't be under the effect of whatever Runes you used on the Gronti would be. You can't link Runes like that, the best you can do is have synchronous/harmonious effects that result in combos or something like the Rune of Direction which is basically replacing the verbal component by projecting your thoughts to another Rune (though without interacting with it). It'd basically be like giving the Gronti one working eye and a cool magical glass eye.
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Unfortunate, although it does tell us something about gronti, if you can't use something like the eye equivalent of the Rune of Forged Limb to give them a magic eye.
 
Alratan said:
Unfortunate, although it does tell us something about gronti, if you can't use something like the eye equivalent of the Rune of Forged Limb to give them a magic eye.
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There is an idea. Make a Gronti that is in fact made of a bunch forged limbs put together. Seems sort of inelegant though.
 
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