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BlueTwinkleToes said:
Welp, guess who's going to start dumping omakes into sig's.

Also, a musing I had on and off, but it would be really nice if we had an Asuka Quest style index. I have to constantly guess keywords to find particular scenes in story post for PMAS, while at Asuka Quest, when I want to re-read certain parts of the quest, its so much easier to skim the almost self-documenting chapter titles. Sorry if I sound like I'm complaining Firn, I really hope I don't.

...I feel as if I should try to find the time to do it myself, painful as it is. Would be a genuine contribution to the thread, and I would be able to say and believe that I contributed meaningfully to the thread. Hmm...
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PM me if you need an sql db of the posts here and/or scripts to acquire one. It has quotes, links, threadmarks and so on.
Some trivial omake detection heuristics:
  • Above 100 words
  • Post contains words fic/omake in text
  • References to the post have words fic/omake in text
  • Reaction count is above some X value

You can use Apocrypha as a reference set, as your heuristic must at least return all apocrypha posts and everything else is unmarked potential omakes you need to comb through manually.
 
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You know what would be stupid overpowered?

A Chinese Meguca who wished, "I want to be like Sun Wukong!"

Cause you know, the Monkey King is crazy OP. Fought the entire Celestial Bureaucracy and won. Immortal five times over. Can create clones of himself from his hair. A staff used to plumb the depths of the ocean was literally the only thing sturdy enough for him to use as a weapon.
 
jmcdavid said:
You know what would be stupid overpowered?

A Chinese Meguca who wished, "I want to be like Sun Wukong!"

Cause you know, the Monkey King is crazy OP. Fought the entire Celestial Bureaucracy and won. Immortal five times over. Can create clones of himself from his hair. A staff used to plumb the depths of the ocean was literally the only thing sturdy enough for him to use as a weapon.
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... get stuck under a mountain a couple of centuries...
 
jmcdavid said:
You know what would be stupid overpowered?

A Chinese Meguca who wished, "I want to be like Sun Wukong!"

Cause you know, the Monkey King is crazy OP. Fought the entire Celestial Bureaucracy and won. Immortal five times over. Can create clones of himself from his hair. A staff used to plumb the depths of the ocean was literally the only thing sturdy enough for him to use as a weapon.
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Depending on how wuch she's screwed over by over potential wishing
 
jmcdavid said:
You know what would be stupid overpowered?

A Chinese Meguca who wished, "I want to be like Sun Wukong!"

Cause you know, the Monkey King is crazy OP. Fought the entire Celestial Bureaucracy and won. Immortal five times over. Can create clones of himself from his hair. A staff used to plumb the depths of the ocean was literally the only thing sturdy enough for him to use as a weapon.
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Coincidentally I was just rereading Separated at Birth. That had Situationist China making Sun Wukong their spiritual emperor as a way of mocking Drakia who declared Jesus Christ himself to be there emperor.

On a side note Sabrina would definitely like the ideology of Situationism.
 
TJSomething said:
Nah. Eurovision.

Breaking news: Florida man attempts to eat the entire Atlantic Ocean.
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Breaking news: Florida man solves rising sea levels by becoming the Atlantic Ocean, Alligators and Russians most affected

EDIT: You know how you can get ideas from music?

I've been listening to the Final Hours theme from Majora's Mask and suddenly got the idea to write something involving a planet crashing into earth, with Sabrina and her friends dealing with and accepting the looming death of the human race they have no way of stopping.

I need to go cool down before I actually start to write it.
 
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Angrygenius said:
I've been listening to the Final Hours theme from Majora's Mask and suddenly got the idea to write something involving a planet crashing into earth, with Sabrina and her friends dealing with and accepting the looming death of the human race they have no way of stopping.
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I have this vision of them standing there watching the planet coming down, holding hands and comforting one another. Then a laser comes out of nowhere, obliterating the other planet as Kyubey says, "Madoka still needs to make her contract before I can write off this dirt ball of a planet."
 
Nerevar said:
I have this vision of them standing there watching the planet coming down, holding hands and comforting one another. Then a laser comes out of nowhere, obliterating the other planet as Kyubey says, "Madoka still needs to make her contract before I can write off this dirt ball of a planet."
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Well, thank you for ridding me of that idea for the next 2 days.

...nevermind, it just came back. Fuck.

Why do I just wanna write about Sabrina and friends just being sad and shit all of a sudden? Some sort of antithesis of the Holiday spirit?
 
Angrygenius said:
Why do I just wanna write about Sabrina and friends just being sad and shit all of a sudden? Some sort of antithesis of the Holiday spirit?
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That sounds about right. I mean, if Sabrina was actually in a Majora's Mask scenario, she'd be those big nose things that grab the moon so Link can do the boss battle, and Homura would naturally be Link.
 
Torgamous said:
That sounds about right. I mean, if Sabrina was actually in a Majora's Mask scenario, she'd be those big nose things that grab the moon so Link can do the boss battle, and Homura would naturally be Link.
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To be honest, if MatPat is correct, then that wouldn't be much of a task, considering the extremely miniscule amount of energy released by the moon on impact assuming all the relevant physics were in place. All Sabrina would have to do is just support the weight of the moon and stand there, the impact energy is basically nothing.

Now, an actual planet - planet, especially one near to or bigger than earth's size? I don't think we could really do much to stop that. Theoretically, we could stretch our grief to an impossibly thin layer over the whole planet and move it that way, but that would require us breaking our 100 meter radius limit. A thruster of some kind? Maybe if the planet lacks an atmosphere.

Wait, why am I trying to justify a hopeless situa- oh yeah.
EDIT: when I said "moon", I meant Majora's moon, not our moon. We'd face similar problems to the planet scenario with the Luna scenario.
 
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Sabrina could totally stop Earth from being hit by the actual Moon if she wanted to. There's a whole bunch of Word of Gods from Firn on this, but if she wanted to Sabrina could totally go FtL, create/destroy black holes, annihilate entire planets, etc etc.

We don't do that because it's pointless when trying to resolve our local problems, not because we can't.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Sabrina could totally stop Earth from being hit by the actual Moon if she wanted to. There's a whole bunch of Word of Gods from Firn on this, but if she wanted to Sabrina could totally go FtL, create/destroy black holes, destroy entire planets, etc etc.

We don't do that because it's pointless when trying to resolve our local problems, not because we can't.
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I kinda forgot about that, kinda knew it all along because we're supposedly the answer to fixing everything.

Kinda blows a hole in my idea (which I have mixed feelings about). Meh.

I'm sure If I wait, my mind will come up with something equally existentially terrifying and sad.

...like a superplume. Or nuclear war. Or- oh fucking dammit that was fast.
 
Angrygenius said:
I kinda forgot about that, kinda knew it all along because we're supposedly the answer to fixing everything.

Kinda blows a hole in my idea (which I have mixed feelings about). Meh.

I'm sure If I wait, my mind will come up with something equally existentially terrifying and sad.

...like a superplume. Or nuclear war. Or- oh fucking dammit that was fast.
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There are very few disasters Sabrina can't solve if she has enough time to see them coming. Nuclear War in particular is trivial - there's under a hundred thousand nuclear missiles globally, so that should be under a month in timestop to locate and destroy them all. Volcanic eruptions are harder, but not impossibly so.

Stuff like a supernova or quasar scouring all life on the planet nigh-instantly is where Sabrina could feasibly not be able to react in time, but that doesn't leave much room for dawning horror.

E: We're literally a result of a god-tier wish to be able to fix everything, so it's no real surprise that "inevitable doom" isn't an easy scenario to put Sabrina in.

If you want to write horror or doom and gloom, I think a better angle isn't a situation where Sabrina can't fix things, but rather one where she didn't, due to her own personal failings, despite technically having the capacity to, and having to deal with that failure.

So rather then having her passively wait for death in a nuclear war scenario, instead set the story with her being in one of the cities that for whatever reason she couldn't save in time, dealing with the consequences of having blatantly used magic to stop a nuclear exchange yet still having been unable to save everyone.
 
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Redshirt Army said:
There are very few disasters Sabrina can't solve if she has enough time to see them coming. Nuclear War in particular is trivial - there's under a hundred thousand nuclear missiles globally, so that should be under a month in timestop to locate and destroy them all. Volcanic eruptions are harder, but not impossibly so.

Stuff like a supernova or quasar scouring all life on the planet nigh-instantly is where Sabrina could feasibly not be able to react in time, but that doesn't leave much room for dawning horror.
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Well it's technically the best existential horror you can get, because it's actually impossible to get any advanced warning of their occurrence since gamma ray bursts travel at light speed, so the only way to know that one is heading our way is for it to hit us.

Yeah, that'd be fun to write about. A gamma ray burst happens, and Sabrina and co have to deal with the aftermath. It'd be similar to the effects of nuclear radiation, but on a continent-wide scale. Theoretically Sabrina could fix the fried ozone layer, but I'd imagine the radiation poisoning and/or cancer that develops before then would be a rather glaring issue to deal with.

Actually, does ionizing radiation affect soul gems at all?
 
Hmm. I'm actually kind of curious what a nuclear exchange scenario would look like. It would almost certainly be the United States doing the first strike - they've always been by far the most trigger happy of the great nuclear powers.

Maybe the US tries to nuke China after prolonged South China Sea saber rattling ends with China sinking an American ship, and then everything else cascades into a full exchange?

Sabrina would need to spend a long time picking off missiles already in flight with Homura's powers.
 
Redshirt Army said:
E: We're literally a result of a god-tier wish to be able to fix everything, so it's no real surprise that "inevitable doom" isn't an easy scenario to put Sabrina in.
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A god-teir wish to be able to fix everything in an Urobuchi setting where the starting point was a cosmic horror story, then things got worse.
Angrygenius said:
Actually, does ionizing radiation affect soul gems at all?
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We don't know! This is why I want to make that Griefhax Scanner!
 
Redshirt Army said:
Hmm. I'm actually kind of curious what a nuclear exchange scenario would look like. It would almost certainly be the United States doing the first strike - they've always been by far the most trigger happy of the great nuclear powers.

Maybe the US tries to nuke China after prolonged South China Sea saber rattling ends with China sinking an American ship, and then everything else cascades into a full exchange?

Sabrina would need to spend a long time picking off missiles already in flight with Homura's powers.
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Believe it or not, I actually had an idea in mind for exactly this scenario. Sabrina would see mention of rising tensions on the tv, then she'd go about her day, then Mitakihara would get hit by a nuke (Sabrina may or may not have seen the nuke, though I imagine that by the time she'd be able to see it, it'd be too late.).

Also, your scenario earlier about Sabrina not being able to find most of the missiles seems rather likely. I don't see any real way for her to find and track every ICBM, especially considering most will have entered sub-orbital spaceflight at some point and that earth and it's atmosphere is a freaking huge place, even for an ICBM. plus, If they've already gotten to space, most ICBMs don't rely on propulsion at that point from what I recall, so it'd literally be trying to find a metal nipple in space. Not to mention the actual bombs from planes (though easier to spot, harder to get rid of without killing the men inside) and missiles from submarines.

I suppose ultimately it all depends on how quickly things escalate and how soon Sabrina is able to react. It is very possible that she won't be able to react at all, if she finds out too late about what's happening.

Also also, I'd imagine that Ionizing Radiation causes permanent damage to the soul gem, because in real minerals, radiation from inside the mineral actually causes damage over time (In fact, this is one way of telling the age of a rock, though not as reliably because moderate heat and pressure can 'fix' some of the damage, making the rock seem younger than it is)
 
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