Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Angrygenius
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Doesn't technically everything we do as a living thing mess with causality?
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Like, she thinks of herself as a reformed supervillain, but she's still chuuni af and has all the phenomenal cosmic power required to live that dream she still has. The redemption arc actually makes that part worse.
JIMI94
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Well maybe for Oriko, but magic might do that too. Moving faster than light I am told really causes a lotta problems though. like just a can of worms the size of a train tunnel.
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Angrygenius
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Erm... do we have the same definitions of causality?
(If that article expands upon it and it isn't what I thought it was, I'm going to be very embarrassed.)
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We aren't HJPEV. We do actual science with our magic instead of setting up mystery cults and suppressing knowledge, thank you very much.
It was seeing if Umika's powers could set up a communication with an active Clear Seed core. Since she had successfully used them to reach one of the pesudo-witches created by the Evil Nuts in her origin manga, it seemed promising.
King Washington
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Sabrina: We are escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism, SPACE!
TortugaGreen
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Fixed, sorry. Hope your puns didn't get too cold a reception, either way.
Jonen C
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"Messing with" causality implies getting interesting stuff like effect before cause, or effect without cause, or cause not having effect.
Ie on the low end:
"Anything that happens, happens.
Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though."
On the high end:
"Stuff just keeps happening for no reason."
Angrygenius
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So in other words:
"Sabrina, remember to not mess with causality"
"Why's that?"
"Pinapples will begin to randomly appear for no reason, and you might randomly teleport to the center of the earth."
JIMI94
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Honestly that would be fairly reasonable for a causality break. Though to be honest, all possible space oscillating between having matter and not having matter in a sort of staticy, random way would be fairly generous too. Saying just about anything would be generous.
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If we really wanna mess with time, we could try folding our grief through the dimension of time. If nothing else, such an experiment will prove whether our hammerspace is actually 4-Space or "just" a dormant barrier.
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Communication with a soul gem would be interesting also. It wouldn't necessarily be range-limited. We could make soul phones to replace QBcoms.
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The idea of soul gems being used for mage-to-mage comms is intriguing, and given what else we've seen magic to be capable of doing, does not seem like it would be beyond the realm of possibility. Witches after all seem to have a sort of telepathic field that can be used to reach out and kiss/lure despairing individuals in the vicinity surrounding their labyrinths, and both witches and magical girls have been shown to posses telepathic (or at the very least extrasensory) control/awareness over their familiars/constructs. It's not a far stretch from such abilities to communication, though range might be a factor, in which case the idea of using soul gems or clear seeds as relays becomes very interesting.
In fact, this seems like such a no-brainer (that puella magi be naturally able to magically communicate, unaided), the possibility arises that such an ability is inherant to the magical girl condition, and that the Incubators have intentionally hijacked/patched/suppressed it as part of their manipulations: by forcing all magical girls to utilise Kyubey as a telepathic intermediary, the Incubators can control the flow of information, reducing their livestock's ability to communicate, co-ordinate and share information.
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Burned_Cookie
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I propose we use the magical superpower of cellular phones and call it a day.
Torgamous
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If Kyubey doesn't hear everything that phones transmit I will eat a stranger's hat. We want a long distance option that lets us talk without Kyubey overhearing.
Angrygenius
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I hypothesize that the telepathy we've been using actually does not emanate from the mind at all, but rather from the soul gem itself. The telepathy bit is actually just our souls communicating directly with one another via the soul gem.
Also, random thought, what if Sabrina somehow found a way to impliment PAYDAY 2 dodge mechanics into real life?
"She's 6 feet away and is currently doing an impression of the Christ the Redeemer statue, HOW ARE YOU MISSING?!"
"S-shut up!"
Also, random thought, what if Sabrina somehow found a way to impliment PAYDAY 2 dodge mechanics into real life?
"She's 6 feet away and is currently doing an impression of the Christ the Redeemer statue, HOW ARE YOU MISSING?!"
"S-shut up!"
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Torgamous
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How does that work with Madoka, Sayaka, and Hitomi?
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I don't know about Madoka and Hitomi, but Sayaka presumably uses it just as well and just like everyone else, since she's got a soul gem too.
Angrygenius
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Well with Madoka and Hitomi, it could work the same way: their souls are communicating directly with ours. The difference is, their soul gems are original packaging.
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To expand on this, I would assume Kyubey combines fantastically capable information processing with fantastically capable physics-based sensors, at minimum. We've watched it casually observe nanostructures from a couple meters away IIRC. What method did it use for that? What is the achievable range, and does it care about line of sight at all? When it looks at a human, can it just watch the neurons?
Standard telepathy is mediated by Kyubey. It's specifically known to be compromised.
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I mean, the bottleneck isn't QB's abilities, it's his information processing and decision making. How sentient is QB? How smart? Is he going to be blindsided by what we plan, because in rebellions the world over the complacency of the authorities is always an advantage for the resistance.
So, it might be a bit more limited due to Madoka, Hitomi, and Nagisa not having Soul Gems, but I'm all for the idea of seeing if Soul Gems can be enchanted to have a communicator function added.
After all, communication is one of the most vital assets a group can have. Preferably reliable and uncompromised.
After all, communication is one of the most vital assets a group can have. Preferably reliable and uncompromised.
Angrygenius
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I'm aware of this. I'm just theorizing that he does it by allowing our souls to directly contact one another.
I imagine a way to verify this is to make a device that blocks all transmissions from the soul gem-
Wait, no, that won't work. There's a possibility that the wavelength that telepathy works with is also the same wavelength in which the soul gem controls the body.
Hmmm....
Either way, the best way to find out untraceable methods of communication is to find out how standard Kyuubey telepathy works.
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I don't think we need to add anything, just remove the QB implanted malware.
As far as I can see, the megucaing process has multiple parts
- Soul transfer
- Witch implantation
- Supersoldier treatment
- Communication
- Custom outfit.
- Custom weapon
- The wish itself
- Healing
- Witch sensor
- Tattoo
- Soul gem>ring transformation
We need to figure out what on this feature set is related. Is the supersoldier treatment a baked in part of the process, or could we isolate it and apply it to whoever we want? Is the healing magic associated with the supersoldier treatment or the soul transfer?