Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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He is just going to nod along and look like "That makes sense" with a thoughtful expression.
And then Madoka grounds us for introducing our uncle to anime logic.
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He is just going to nod along and look like "That makes sense" with a thoughtful expression.
And then Madoka grounds us for introducing our uncle to anime logic.
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I dunno Aura, it sounds like something Sabrina would say.
Office Complex pt. 23
You emerge into the bright afternoon sun, footsteps light. You're pretty satisfied with yourself, with how things went - despite ending on a sour note, you feel that the meeting had gone as well as it could have, from the moment Masami brought Mami up.
The truancy officer eyes you as you approach, and you give him a smile before checking your phone - more for show than anything else, because you know that school's about to finish. You settle in to wait, bouncing lightly on the balls of your feet and thinking.
'Picking at a scab,' you'd thought to yourself, and in retrospect, that was perhaps a mite understating it. Masami had started digging around in a still-raw wound of her own volition, and to extend the metaphor in a rather horrible way, you'd pulled her bloody fingers out of said wound as best as you could.
And to extend the metaphor just a little bit more to its grisly conclusion and put said metaphor to its grave - in doing so, in removing Masami's fingers, you'd helped dislodge a fragment of a bullet. For all your powers, you're not a mind reader, and you don't know for sure what's going on in Masami's mind.
But you know she blames Mami for convincing her to make a contract. It's not, necessarily, a rational thing. But knowing, now, that it hurt Mami to learn in truth what she'd done?
Yeah, she'd lashed out. At the same time, knowing that is a step towards mutual understanding.
"Sabrina!"
Mami isn't quite the first one out of the doors today, her last class perhaps a bit further from the main gate - but you spot her as she races across the courtyard, her smile blossoming like the sun peeking from behind clouds.
She crashes into you, or maybe you crash into her, wrapping your arms around each other. It's a good thing you don't actually need to breathe - and for that matter, it's a good thing you're a magical girl, with the durability that that entails. The only reason you win the contest of strength is your height advantage, lifting her and swinging her in a laughing circle.
"Hi," you say, smiling at her.
"Hi!" Mami says, flushed and beaming from ear to ear.
"Did something good happen?" you ask.
"You're here," Mami says with a happy sigh, one that you echo. You nudge her gently away from the flow of students, ducking to the lee of the wall and nestling your cheek against soft, golden hair. It's nice to be with Mami, to simply relax and let the world wash away for a while. To be normal for a little bit.
"Heyo!" Another familiar voice floats from the crowd, just about audible over the din of students filtering out from the school, and you look up to spot a flash of blue and an enthusiastically waving hand.
"Hey!" You free one hand to wave back, spotting Madoka walking at Sayaka's side, Hitomi on her other side and Homura trailing just a step behind.
Mami shuffles around you, pulling your arm over her shoulders and slipping an arm around your waist so that she can stay tucked against your side as your friends approach. She beams at them, bright and happy.
"Hello, everyone," Mami says when they're within hearing range, everyone arranging into a loose circle.
"Hi!" Madoka says brightly. "How have you been?"
"Pretty good. Hey everyone," you say. "How's your days been?"
"Homework," Sayaka whines, pulling a face. "It's Friiiiiday."
"We've been given a fair amount of homework this weekend," Hitomi agrees.
"Aw," you say. "Tests coming up?"
"No, it's just homework..." Madoka pouts sadly.
"Ah, we'll still have time to hang out, though!" Sayaka exclaims. "'specially if you and Mami and Homura can help us with the homework."
"Mami?" you ask, smiling at her.
"We would be happy to," Mami says, squeezing you gently. "Schedule permitting?"
"I think so," you say, and grin at Sayaka. "C'mon, you know I'm here to help."
"Yeah, yeah, I know." She smirks at you, offering a fistbump, which you gladly return.
"And you, Homura?" you ask, turning your attention to your friend.
Homura fidgets slightly, and nods. "... I'll be there."
"Yay!" Madoka cheers.
"Fantastic," you declare.
"We should perhaps start walking," Hitomi says.
"... yeah, probably," Sayaka says, looking around at the flow of students parting around your group. She sneaks Hitomi's bag, slinging both her own and Hitomi's over her shoulder while ignoring Hitomi's Look with magnificent aplomb. "Byyyyy the way, Sabrina, I see you managed to lose Mugin."
"Yeah, not sure where he got off to," you say as you turn to start walking, Mami still attached firmly to your side. "Probably got tired and went off to roost for the day or something?"
"Or something," Sayaka says with a dismissive shrug. "He'll show up."
"Spoiled brat of a bird," you agree.
"Maybe we should adopt him as a pet," Mami says gravely.
"Ah... what about Hunin?" Madoka asks curiously.
"Iunno," Sayaka says. "Around? Uh... let's wait here a sec. Hitomi, your car isn't here yet, right? So lliiiike..."
She does this complicated little juggle of the two bags around so that she can free one hand and dig into her own, producing a handful of seed. She looks around, ducking not-so-surreptitiously behind you and Mami to scatter the birdseed in the bushes you're passing by.
"Oh, while we're waiting for that," you say, snapping your fingers and reaching into your own bag to 'pull' out a small card - formed instantly out of Grief, nano-patterned surface to give it the rich buttery yellow and crisp white hues. "I had an idea for a business card!"
Mami chuckles fondly as she takes it from you, and you produce a few more copies - one for Hitomi, which she takes with an air of faintly amused interest, and one for Homura. Madoka peeks over Homura's shoulder, looking intensely curious.
"Oh! And here, Mami-" you produce a second card, one with Mami's name, and press it into her hand.
"I like 'White Ribbon'," Madoka says brightly, admiring the card. "Are you going to hand these out?"
"If you guys think it's a good idea, I might get some printed, yeah," you say with a grin. "It's classy to be able to pull one out and say 'Here's my card'."
"Do the rest of us get cards too, or is White Ribbon just the two of you?" Sayaka says, head tilted back to watch the tree branches. "Ehn... either way, I think we can't be just the Mitakihara group forever, if you've got international aspirations."
"Are we known as the 'Mitakihara group'?" Hitomi asks, air-quoting the words with disdain. "That's such an... uninspired name. Uninspired and uninspiring."
"... Is it? I... well, I guess it is," you say, blinking and shrugging. "And I guess we kind of are? But that's why I have you and Madoka for consultants."
"So we get to think of a new name?" Madoka asks, brightening.
You catch Homura's eyes for a split second - but she doesn't react, so you just grin at Madoka. "Well, like I said, we've got you and Hitomi as consultants, right?" You make a face. "Naming things is hard. I only got White Ribbon because, well... You know."
Mami blushes, squeezing you gently with her arm around your waist.
Sayaka snorts, and looks like she's about to say something when she tilts her head to the side. "There they are," she says.
You follow her gaze to spot a couple of birds settling into the boughs of the tree, one of them an enormously fluffy crow with an odd white streak of feathers across its face.
"Aw, it's so cute!" Madoka coos. "Is that Hunin?"
"Yup," Sayaka says, making an odd croaking noise in the back of her throat. Magic flares, a bright glimmer crystallizing for a second, and the birds begin chirruping in response.
Hitomi watches with keen interest. "What are they talking about?"
"Nothing much, it turns out," Sayaka says. At some unseen signal, the birds descend and begin pecking up the birdseed. "Not much news to report, I mean."
You lay your hand over Mami's, squeezing gently. "On that note, Mami, Homura?"
Violet eyes flicker back over to you, intent and curious.
"The GPS trackers for Oriko and Kirika arrived," you say, which gets you the attention of Sayaka and Hitomi, too. "If you want, Mami, Homura, you could go set that up, and enchant them, while I bring Sayaka for her training? If not, I'd be happy to do that when we get back, and maybe... you could go Witch-hunting or something?"
Mami stills. So does Homura. The tension spreads, the smile fading from Madoka's face as her gaze darts between the rest of your group. Sayaka presses her lips together, thinned out to nothing, and Hitomi frowns thoughtfully.
"I..." Mami's tongue flicks out, wetting her lips. "I suppose it's something to do while I wait." Her eyes go to Homura, uncertain. "I'd... be happy for your accompaniment, Homura?"
"... very well," Homura says.
"Yeah, I can trust the two of you to do it right," Sayaka says with a grin that's only slightly strained. "No offense, Sabrina, but you're kind of too lenient."
"None taken," you say, pulling Mami a little closer to you - not that that's an easy task, given how tightly she's already clinging to you. "Can you give us a moment?"
"We'll be just by the road?" Madoka says, pointing. She looks faintly concerned, but smiles when she catches your eyes. "Ah... Hitomi, we'll be alright waiting there, right?"
"Oh, right," Sayaka says, snapping her fingers and draping her arms around Madoka and Hitomi's shoulders to guide them away. "You're going to the hospital to get that cast removed."
Homura trails along after them, leaving you alone with Mami under the shade of the trees. Not quite as private as you'd like, with students passing by on the main path, but it's as good as you'll get without ducking into the greenery proper.
"I'll be back, I promise," you murmur, shifting around to hug Mami properly.
"I know," she replies, a bare whisper. "You- you always have."
"It's not wrong to be afraid, though," you say. "It might not be rational, but feelings aren't."
"I know," she murmurs. You feel her fingers in your hair, toying with the loose strands, and you just hold her.
Fear.
Kyouko left her, Kazumi left her, Masami left her. Maybe it's an exaggeration to say that she has estranged friends and students scattered across Japan, but... there are enough that the fear of rejection bites deep.
"You..." Mami swallows, pressed so closely against you that you can feel it. "You brought Kazumi back."
"It's not wrong to be afraid." You echo your earlier words.
"It helps," Mami murmurs. "To remind me that... that I have a, a miracle worker, here with me."
You laugh, a little, and tilt your head forward so you can kiss Mami on the cheek. "Hey, we're magical girls. Miracles are our stock-in-trade."
Mami takes a deep breath, and manages a shaky smile for you. "Alright," she murmurs. "I'll be alright."
"You will be," you say with a smile. "And if I may be sappy, you are my miracle, Mami."
Mami's face lights up incandescent, and she makes a squeaky noise before burying her face in your chest.
That's better. You ignore your own blush, and ignore the looks you're getting from other students passing by, and focus on hugging Mami, until she finally stirs and looks up at you, still blushing luminescent red.
"Thank you, Sabrina," she whispers.
"No, thank you," you say, and purse your lips. "That said, while I meant every word I said, while I mean every word I said, I'm, uh, not going to make a habit of calling you my miracle."
"Hmm?" she asks, blinking at you. Then she blinks again, eyes widening. "Oh. Um."
"Yeaaaah," you say, making a face. People call their kids 'their miracles'.
Mami huffs out a fond laugh. "Oh, Sabrina," she says, leaning against you for a moment longer. "Alright." A deep breath. "Alright. Sayaka shouldn't be late for her training."
"Let's go see what our friends are up to, then," you say, smiling.
"Let's," she says, and takes your hand. She interlaces her fingers with yours, swinging gently as you walk.
When you reach the road, you find that both Madoka and Hitomi have vanished, Homura looking vaguely uncomfortable while Sayaka tries to make small talk about school.
"Heya," Sayaka says, waving. "Hitomi's driver got here, so she had to get going. Madoka decided to go to the hospital with her, and both of 'em apologise for having to go without saying bye."
"Ack," you say, squeezing Mami's hand gently. "Well... you ready to head off?"
"Yep," Sayaka says, grinning. "All good?"
"Ayep," you agree. You smile softly at Mami. "I'll see you later, alright?"
Mami takes a deep breath, and returns your smile. "You will."
A flash of violet, over Mami's shoulder - Homura, her eyes intent on you. When you look up to meet her gaze, her attention shifts deliberately to Mami, and she nods slightly.
You can't help that breathless little twist of gratitude that unspools in your chest.
A touch on your lips draws your attention back to Mami, who smiles at you, having tapped one finger against you. "I'll be collecting."
"Gladly," you say. "Until then!"
"Right!" Sayaka says, pumping a fist in the air and grinning. "Let's go!"
"Hmm... that way," you say, pointing at a likely building. You wave one last time at Mami as you head off, Sayaka in tow, and a few minutes later, you're airborne, the rush of wind filling your ears as you head off for Sayaka's training.
[] What particular topics do you want to talk to Kyouko/Yuma about during the training? (Specify in more detail)
- [] News on Kyouko's church
- [] Yuma's grandparents
- [] Mami
- [] Iowa
- [] The Soujus
- [] Walpurgisnacht (in more detail)
- [] Something else?
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Another actual Sunday update. I blame the vacation.
The truancy officer eyes you as you approach, and you give him a smile before checking your phone - more for show than anything else, because you know that school's about to finish. You settle in to wait, bouncing lightly on the balls of your feet and thinking.
'Picking at a scab,' you'd thought to yourself, and in retrospect, that was perhaps a mite understating it. Masami had started digging around in a still-raw wound of her own volition, and to extend the metaphor in a rather horrible way, you'd pulled her bloody fingers out of said wound as best as you could.
And to extend the metaphor just a little bit more to its grisly conclusion and put said metaphor to its grave - in doing so, in removing Masami's fingers, you'd helped dislodge a fragment of a bullet. For all your powers, you're not a mind reader, and you don't know for sure what's going on in Masami's mind.
But you know she blames Mami for convincing her to make a contract. It's not, necessarily, a rational thing. But knowing, now, that it hurt Mami to learn in truth what she'd done?
Yeah, she'd lashed out. At the same time, knowing that is a step towards mutual understanding.
"Sabrina!"
Mami isn't quite the first one out of the doors today, her last class perhaps a bit further from the main gate - but you spot her as she races across the courtyard, her smile blossoming like the sun peeking from behind clouds.
She crashes into you, or maybe you crash into her, wrapping your arms around each other. It's a good thing you don't actually need to breathe - and for that matter, it's a good thing you're a magical girl, with the durability that that entails. The only reason you win the contest of strength is your height advantage, lifting her and swinging her in a laughing circle.
"Hi," you say, smiling at her.
"Hi!" Mami says, flushed and beaming from ear to ear.
"Did something good happen?" you ask.
"You're here," Mami says with a happy sigh, one that you echo. You nudge her gently away from the flow of students, ducking to the lee of the wall and nestling your cheek against soft, golden hair. It's nice to be with Mami, to simply relax and let the world wash away for a while. To be normal for a little bit.
"Heyo!" Another familiar voice floats from the crowd, just about audible over the din of students filtering out from the school, and you look up to spot a flash of blue and an enthusiastically waving hand.
"Hey!" You free one hand to wave back, spotting Madoka walking at Sayaka's side, Hitomi on her other side and Homura trailing just a step behind.
Mami shuffles around you, pulling your arm over her shoulders and slipping an arm around your waist so that she can stay tucked against your side as your friends approach. She beams at them, bright and happy.
"Hello, everyone," Mami says when they're within hearing range, everyone arranging into a loose circle.
"Hi!" Madoka says brightly. "How have you been?"
"Pretty good. Hey everyone," you say. "How's your days been?"
"Homework," Sayaka whines, pulling a face. "It's Friiiiiday."
"We've been given a fair amount of homework this weekend," Hitomi agrees.
"Aw," you say. "Tests coming up?"
"No, it's just homework..." Madoka pouts sadly.
"Ah, we'll still have time to hang out, though!" Sayaka exclaims. "'specially if you and Mami and Homura can help us with the homework."
"Mami?" you ask, smiling at her.
"We would be happy to," Mami says, squeezing you gently. "Schedule permitting?"
"I think so," you say, and grin at Sayaka. "C'mon, you know I'm here to help."
"Yeah, yeah, I know." She smirks at you, offering a fistbump, which you gladly return.
"And you, Homura?" you ask, turning your attention to your friend.
Homura fidgets slightly, and nods. "... I'll be there."
"Yay!" Madoka cheers.
"Fantastic," you declare.
"We should perhaps start walking," Hitomi says.
"... yeah, probably," Sayaka says, looking around at the flow of students parting around your group. She sneaks Hitomi's bag, slinging both her own and Hitomi's over her shoulder while ignoring Hitomi's Look with magnificent aplomb. "Byyyyy the way, Sabrina, I see you managed to lose Mugin."
"Yeah, not sure where he got off to," you say as you turn to start walking, Mami still attached firmly to your side. "Probably got tired and went off to roost for the day or something?"
"Or something," Sayaka says with a dismissive shrug. "He'll show up."
"Spoiled brat of a bird," you agree.
"Maybe we should adopt him as a pet," Mami says gravely.
"Ah... what about Hunin?" Madoka asks curiously.
"Iunno," Sayaka says. "Around? Uh... let's wait here a sec. Hitomi, your car isn't here yet, right? So lliiiike..."
She does this complicated little juggle of the two bags around so that she can free one hand and dig into her own, producing a handful of seed. She looks around, ducking not-so-surreptitiously behind you and Mami to scatter the birdseed in the bushes you're passing by.
"Oh, while we're waiting for that," you say, snapping your fingers and reaching into your own bag to 'pull' out a small card - formed instantly out of Grief, nano-patterned surface to give it the rich buttery yellow and crisp white hues. "I had an idea for a business card!"
Mami chuckles fondly as she takes it from you, and you produce a few more copies - one for Hitomi, which she takes with an air of faintly amused interest, and one for Homura. Madoka peeks over Homura's shoulder, looking intensely curious.
"Oh! And here, Mami-" you produce a second card, one with Mami's name, and press it into her hand.
"I like 'White Ribbon'," Madoka says brightly, admiring the card. "Are you going to hand these out?"
"If you guys think it's a good idea, I might get some printed, yeah," you say with a grin. "It's classy to be able to pull one out and say 'Here's my card'."
"Do the rest of us get cards too, or is White Ribbon just the two of you?" Sayaka says, head tilted back to watch the tree branches. "Ehn... either way, I think we can't be just the Mitakihara group forever, if you've got international aspirations."
"Are we known as the 'Mitakihara group'?" Hitomi asks, air-quoting the words with disdain. "That's such an... uninspired name. Uninspired and uninspiring."
"... Is it? I... well, I guess it is," you say, blinking and shrugging. "And I guess we kind of are? But that's why I have you and Madoka for consultants."
"So we get to think of a new name?" Madoka asks, brightening.
You catch Homura's eyes for a split second - but she doesn't react, so you just grin at Madoka. "Well, like I said, we've got you and Hitomi as consultants, right?" You make a face. "Naming things is hard. I only got White Ribbon because, well... You know."
Mami blushes, squeezing you gently with her arm around your waist.
Sayaka snorts, and looks like she's about to say something when she tilts her head to the side. "There they are," she says.
You follow her gaze to spot a couple of birds settling into the boughs of the tree, one of them an enormously fluffy crow with an odd white streak of feathers across its face.
"Aw, it's so cute!" Madoka coos. "Is that Hunin?"
"Yup," Sayaka says, making an odd croaking noise in the back of her throat. Magic flares, a bright glimmer crystallizing for a second, and the birds begin chirruping in response.
Hitomi watches with keen interest. "What are they talking about?"
"Nothing much, it turns out," Sayaka says. At some unseen signal, the birds descend and begin pecking up the birdseed. "Not much news to report, I mean."
You lay your hand over Mami's, squeezing gently. "On that note, Mami, Homura?"
Violet eyes flicker back over to you, intent and curious.
"The GPS trackers for Oriko and Kirika arrived," you say, which gets you the attention of Sayaka and Hitomi, too. "If you want, Mami, Homura, you could go set that up, and enchant them, while I bring Sayaka for her training? If not, I'd be happy to do that when we get back, and maybe... you could go Witch-hunting or something?"
Mami stills. So does Homura. The tension spreads, the smile fading from Madoka's face as her gaze darts between the rest of your group. Sayaka presses her lips together, thinned out to nothing, and Hitomi frowns thoughtfully.
"I..." Mami's tongue flicks out, wetting her lips. "I suppose it's something to do while I wait." Her eyes go to Homura, uncertain. "I'd... be happy for your accompaniment, Homura?"
"... very well," Homura says.
"Yeah, I can trust the two of you to do it right," Sayaka says with a grin that's only slightly strained. "No offense, Sabrina, but you're kind of too lenient."
"None taken," you say, pulling Mami a little closer to you - not that that's an easy task, given how tightly she's already clinging to you. "Can you give us a moment?"
"We'll be just by the road?" Madoka says, pointing. She looks faintly concerned, but smiles when she catches your eyes. "Ah... Hitomi, we'll be alright waiting there, right?"
"Oh, right," Sayaka says, snapping her fingers and draping her arms around Madoka and Hitomi's shoulders to guide them away. "You're going to the hospital to get that cast removed."
Homura trails along after them, leaving you alone with Mami under the shade of the trees. Not quite as private as you'd like, with students passing by on the main path, but it's as good as you'll get without ducking into the greenery proper.
"I'll be back, I promise," you murmur, shifting around to hug Mami properly.
"I know," she replies, a bare whisper. "You- you always have."
"It's not wrong to be afraid, though," you say. "It might not be rational, but feelings aren't."
"I know," she murmurs. You feel her fingers in your hair, toying with the loose strands, and you just hold her.
Fear.
Kyouko left her, Kazumi left her, Masami left her. Maybe it's an exaggeration to say that she has estranged friends and students scattered across Japan, but... there are enough that the fear of rejection bites deep.
"You..." Mami swallows, pressed so closely against you that you can feel it. "You brought Kazumi back."
"It's not wrong to be afraid." You echo your earlier words.
"It helps," Mami murmurs. "To remind me that... that I have a, a miracle worker, here with me."
You laugh, a little, and tilt your head forward so you can kiss Mami on the cheek. "Hey, we're magical girls. Miracles are our stock-in-trade."
Mami takes a deep breath, and manages a shaky smile for you. "Alright," she murmurs. "I'll be alright."
"You will be," you say with a smile. "And if I may be sappy, you are my miracle, Mami."
Mami's face lights up incandescent, and she makes a squeaky noise before burying her face in your chest.
That's better. You ignore your own blush, and ignore the looks you're getting from other students passing by, and focus on hugging Mami, until she finally stirs and looks up at you, still blushing luminescent red.
"Thank you, Sabrina," she whispers.
"No, thank you," you say, and purse your lips. "That said, while I meant every word I said, while I mean every word I said, I'm, uh, not going to make a habit of calling you my miracle."
"Hmm?" she asks, blinking at you. Then she blinks again, eyes widening. "Oh. Um."
"Yeaaaah," you say, making a face. People call their kids 'their miracles'.
Mami huffs out a fond laugh. "Oh, Sabrina," she says, leaning against you for a moment longer. "Alright." A deep breath. "Alright. Sayaka shouldn't be late for her training."
"Let's go see what our friends are up to, then," you say, smiling.
"Let's," she says, and takes your hand. She interlaces her fingers with yours, swinging gently as you walk.
When you reach the road, you find that both Madoka and Hitomi have vanished, Homura looking vaguely uncomfortable while Sayaka tries to make small talk about school.
"Heya," Sayaka says, waving. "Hitomi's driver got here, so she had to get going. Madoka decided to go to the hospital with her, and both of 'em apologise for having to go without saying bye."
"Ack," you say, squeezing Mami's hand gently. "Well... you ready to head off?"
"Yep," Sayaka says, grinning. "All good?"
"Ayep," you agree. You smile softly at Mami. "I'll see you later, alright?"
Mami takes a deep breath, and returns your smile. "You will."
A flash of violet, over Mami's shoulder - Homura, her eyes intent on you. When you look up to meet her gaze, her attention shifts deliberately to Mami, and she nods slightly.
You can't help that breathless little twist of gratitude that unspools in your chest.
A touch on your lips draws your attention back to Mami, who smiles at you, having tapped one finger against you. "I'll be collecting."
"Gladly," you say. "Until then!"
"Right!" Sayaka says, pumping a fist in the air and grinning. "Let's go!"
"Hmm... that way," you say, pointing at a likely building. You wave one last time at Mami as you head off, Sayaka in tow, and a few minutes later, you're airborne, the rush of wind filling your ears as you head off for Sayaka's training.
[] What particular topics do you want to talk to Kyouko/Yuma about during the training? (Specify in more detail)
- [] News on Kyouko's church
- [] Yuma's grandparents
- [] Mami
- [] Iowa
- [] The Soujus
- [] Walpurgisnacht (in more detail)
- [] Something else?
[x] Discuss Sayaka's training with her: How does she feel she's progressing?
-[x] You were thinking of doing another group training session tomorrow afternoon, if time allows.
-[x] Poke Sayaka about copying Yuma's power, if it seems reasonable.
-[x] You were thinking of doing another group training session tomorrow afternoon, if time allows.
-[x] Poke Sayaka about copying Yuma's power, if it seems reasonable.
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Another actual Sunday update. I blame the vacation.
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- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Pffffft. Hunin and Mugin. 
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I feel like this is aimed at me.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
You came out here to have a fun time and are honestly feeling so attacked right now?
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
You came out here to have a fun time and are honestly feeling so attacked right now?
Honestly, no. I'm just happy something I posted about made it into an update.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
The little bit where Mami sucked in air and muttered about how we brought Kazumi back...
That hit me in the soul. I've been in Mami's spot and my lovers have done the same sort of miracle for me.
That hit me in the soul. I've been in Mami's spot and my lovers have done the same sort of miracle for me.
- Location
- Depths of Hell, Maybe
I know this isn't urgent or anything, but can we bring up Sabrina's Hope Wings today? I loved that part and I'd really like to show Mami and Homura, at the very least.
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm ded
the only clue to cause of death will be my body covered in lily's
Yeah, that was way too sweet a scene.
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
- Location
- Zombie World
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So...
1. Warn them about Iowa and the Soujus
2. Vote in abeyance
3. ???
Also, when did warning them about Wallachia Night happen?
1. Warn them about Iowa and the Soujus
2. Vote in abeyance
3. ???
Also, when did warning them about Wallachia Night happen?
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Somewhere in the annals of history, like, a week ago, I think.
Hey a month and a half ago someone was telling me about this and I couldn't find the chapter this was in! NOW I found it!
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Kinda late, on both counts, but does it mean that Santa Mami is basically a Christmas Miracle for Sabrina?
- Location
- Illinois
Ey @Redshirt Army I'm thinkin it's about time to finally do my re-read and get all caught back up. Can I get you to toss me an edit link for the wiki, because I swear to fuck I am at minimum going to instantiate an individual article for every Madokami damn chapter and tag them all to fuck. This quest is going to be going for multiple more years, I wanna be part of it, and by MADOKAMI it is getting TOO FUCKING HARD to find things in here when we need'em for discussions.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Oh hey, this is a good find. We were wondering about getting Kyouko's assistance with defense against memory manipulation and it's good to have textual support for that possibility.
- Location
- Illinois
Soooooooooo I ended up spending last night thinking about tagging schema.
The volume of chapters to tag is very large (722 at present). That means a large potential for error.
In order for a tagging scheme to be effective for source-searching, it needs to be strictly correlated with the actual content; that is, it's unacceptable to have any chapter that should be tagged as containing Mami not tagged as containing Mami, and it's unacceptable to have any chapter that shouldn't be tagged as containing Mami tagged as containing Mami.
Otherwise any searcher is inevitably going to go, "y'know, I exhausted the chapters tagged as Mami, but what if there's something missing? I'd better go use the SV search engine again..."
Which... is exactly the sort of nonsense I'm hoping to help us not need to engage in.
On the other hand, the stricter and more voluminous the tagging schema, the harder it is to actually implement, and strictness and volume are going to be at odds with each other -- the more tags I'm supposed to strictly implement, the greater the chance I'm going to fuck up somewhere.
So at the moment, I'm planning on implementing two kinds of tags, one I'm just calling tags, the other I'm calling attributes.
Tags are going to be the strict system -- if a chapter contains Mami, I'll tag it tag/Mami, if it doesn't, I won't. Attributes will be non-strict -- if a chapter contains an attribute I might tag it atr/whatever, or not. This has the nice side-benefit that if people want to go through and tag things at random with attributes, they aren't obligated to re-read the entire quest and painstakingly note down every instance of every attribute and etcetera.
What falls into what category, though?
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's an open question in a lot of ways. The tag system is ideally supposed to handle all the frequent queries we're making that necessitate exhaustive searches, things like "Does this person know this?", "Where did we tell this person those things?", "Did this person ever display this ability?". It's very much an attempt to eliminate searching this thread for mami sabrina ribbons by firnagzen minimum 500 words and paging through fifty different results one by one looking for where the hell we first tested pushing magic into ribbons.
Attributes are for whatever the hell that doesn't need to be indexed exhaustively.
So the tags should be a finite set and the attributes we don't really care about. Okay. Still have to figure out what the set of tags should be.
Which brings me to why I'm posting this in the first place, namely, I've got a base set of tags, and I'm looking for input on whether I need anything else.
Keep in mind that I'm planning a basic summary of each chapter in the chapter's article accompanied by all the chapter's tags, so a search of tag/Capabilities tag/Mami ribbon will return all chapters in which Mami is present, some character's capabilities are displayed, and the summary includes either "ribbon" or "ribbons" (the search functionality appears to return both plurals and non-plurals of a searched word).
tag/CHARACTERNAME -- the named character is present in the chapter. Characters among (Kyubey, Oriko, Kirika, Mami, Sayaka, Madoka, Homura, Kyouko, Yuma, Hitomi, Nagisa, Kyousuke, Walpurgisnacht) take the form of tag/Madoka or tag/Homura. Characters outside that set take the form of tag/LastnameFirstname, e.g. tag/MomoeShin. tag/Sabrina does not exist; Sabrina is in every chapter.
tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta -- the named character is referred to in the chapter in more than a passing manner but is not present in the chapter. Same formatting as tag/CHARACTERNAME. Examples: tag/Homura-meta, tag/MomoeShin-meta. Note that searching tag/CHARACTERNAME will return both tag/CHARACTERNAME and tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta tags. To exclude -meta tags, try searching tag/CHARACTERNAME -tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta.
tag/CHARACTERNAME-abil -- some previously unknown facet of the named character's capabilities is displayed or explicated in the chapter.
tag/GROUPNAME -- at least one character belonging to the group is present in the chapter. Only used for entities we actually refer to as groups; thus, there is no group for Kyouko and Yuma. There is no MitakiharaGroup tag, but this tag is formatted as tag/MitakiharaGroup.
tag/GROUPNAME-meta -- at least one character belonging to the group is referred to in the chapter in more than a passing manner but no character from the group is present in the chapter. Formatted as tag/MitakiharaGroup-meta
tag/Diplomacy -- the chapter contains diplomacy, which is defined as "negotiation with anybody who isn't directly part of Mitakihara Group."
tag/Introduction -- Sabrina introduces herself to one or more people.
tag/Infowar -- somebody learns something from Sabrina that they didn't know before in the chapter. This tag is a catch-all to be used for figuring out "Have we told this person about this?"
tag/Bombs -- this chapter involves one or more of the bombs being talked about directly, indirectly, in extreme abstract, etc. Metabomb, Lichbomb, Witchbomb, Loopbomb, Potentialbomb are the five recognized bombs for this tag.
tag/BOMBNAME -- as tag/Bombs but refers to a specific bomb. Will be applied to chapters alongside tag/Bombs. Formatted as tag/Metabomb.
tag/Infosec -- one or more information security measures were deployed in this chapter. "We kept our mouth shut" is not categorized under this tag, whereas "We used a privacy sphere" is.
tag/Characterization -- better described as "major characterization" than "characterization." Expect to see this only on chapters where major facets of people are in the open. Searching something like tag/Mami -tag/Mami-meta tag/Characterization should more or less produce a list consisting only of character-defining moments involving Mami.
tag/Critical -- one way or another this chapter matters too damn much, even considering all the other chapters that matter too damn much. In this category: threatening to witch Kirika, suggesting that Kirika's antimagic was purposed to turn off Oriko's precognition, explaining to Mami that she had really done hugely meaningful things for us on a personal level, etcetera.
E: one thing already strikes me, I dunno how we'd want GROUPNAME to interact with the clusterfuck that is Tokyo.
The volume of chapters to tag is very large (722 at present). That means a large potential for error.
In order for a tagging scheme to be effective for source-searching, it needs to be strictly correlated with the actual content; that is, it's unacceptable to have any chapter that should be tagged as containing Mami not tagged as containing Mami, and it's unacceptable to have any chapter that shouldn't be tagged as containing Mami tagged as containing Mami.
Otherwise any searcher is inevitably going to go, "y'know, I exhausted the chapters tagged as Mami, but what if there's something missing? I'd better go use the SV search engine again..."
Which... is exactly the sort of nonsense I'm hoping to help us not need to engage in.
On the other hand, the stricter and more voluminous the tagging schema, the harder it is to actually implement, and strictness and volume are going to be at odds with each other -- the more tags I'm supposed to strictly implement, the greater the chance I'm going to fuck up somewhere.
So at the moment, I'm planning on implementing two kinds of tags, one I'm just calling tags, the other I'm calling attributes.
Tags are going to be the strict system -- if a chapter contains Mami, I'll tag it tag/Mami, if it doesn't, I won't. Attributes will be non-strict -- if a chapter contains an attribute I might tag it atr/whatever, or not. This has the nice side-benefit that if people want to go through and tag things at random with attributes, they aren't obligated to re-read the entire quest and painstakingly note down every instance of every attribute and etcetera.
What falls into what category, though?
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's an open question in a lot of ways. The tag system is ideally supposed to handle all the frequent queries we're making that necessitate exhaustive searches, things like "Does this person know this?", "Where did we tell this person those things?", "Did this person ever display this ability?". It's very much an attempt to eliminate searching this thread for mami sabrina ribbons by firnagzen minimum 500 words and paging through fifty different results one by one looking for where the hell we first tested pushing magic into ribbons.
Attributes are for whatever the hell that doesn't need to be indexed exhaustively.
So the tags should be a finite set and the attributes we don't really care about. Okay. Still have to figure out what the set of tags should be.
Which brings me to why I'm posting this in the first place, namely, I've got a base set of tags, and I'm looking for input on whether I need anything else.
Keep in mind that I'm planning a basic summary of each chapter in the chapter's article accompanied by all the chapter's tags, so a search of tag/Capabilities tag/Mami ribbon will return all chapters in which Mami is present, some character's capabilities are displayed, and the summary includes either "ribbon" or "ribbons" (the search functionality appears to return both plurals and non-plurals of a searched word).
Tags as used in the chapter articles are of a form tag/TEXT. This format should not be used for anything else, so as to enable tag-searching via the general-purpose wiki search function. If it wasn't being done that way nobody could tell a Sayaka tag from a "After talking with Sayaka..."
THE ABSENCE OF A TAG FROM AN ARTICLE EQUATES TO THE ABSENCE OF THAT ELEMENT FROM THE CORRESPONDING CHAPTER. A COMPLETE LIST OF TAGS FOLLOWS.
THE ABSENCE OF A TAG FROM AN ARTICLE EQUATES TO THE ABSENCE OF THAT ELEMENT FROM THE CORRESPONDING CHAPTER. A COMPLETE LIST OF TAGS FOLLOWS.
tag/CHARACTERNAME -- the named character is present in the chapter. Characters among (Kyubey, Oriko, Kirika, Mami, Sayaka, Madoka, Homura, Kyouko, Yuma, Hitomi, Nagisa, Kyousuke, Walpurgisnacht) take the form of tag/Madoka or tag/Homura. Characters outside that set take the form of tag/LastnameFirstname, e.g. tag/MomoeShin. tag/Sabrina does not exist; Sabrina is in every chapter.
tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta -- the named character is referred to in the chapter in more than a passing manner but is not present in the chapter. Same formatting as tag/CHARACTERNAME. Examples: tag/Homura-meta, tag/MomoeShin-meta. Note that searching tag/CHARACTERNAME will return both tag/CHARACTERNAME and tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta tags. To exclude -meta tags, try searching tag/CHARACTERNAME -tag/CHARACTERNAME-meta.
tag/CHARACTERNAME-abil -- some previously unknown facet of the named character's capabilities is displayed or explicated in the chapter.
tag/GROUPNAME -- at least one character belonging to the group is present in the chapter. Only used for entities we actually refer to as groups; thus, there is no group for Kyouko and Yuma. There is no MitakiharaGroup tag, but this tag is formatted as tag/MitakiharaGroup.
tag/GROUPNAME-meta -- at least one character belonging to the group is referred to in the chapter in more than a passing manner but no character from the group is present in the chapter. Formatted as tag/MitakiharaGroup-meta
tag/Diplomacy -- the chapter contains diplomacy, which is defined as "negotiation with anybody who isn't directly part of Mitakihara Group."
tag/Introduction -- Sabrina introduces herself to one or more people.
tag/Infowar -- somebody learns something from Sabrina that they didn't know before in the chapter. This tag is a catch-all to be used for figuring out "Have we told this person about this?"
tag/Bombs -- this chapter involves one or more of the bombs being talked about directly, indirectly, in extreme abstract, etc. Metabomb, Lichbomb, Witchbomb, Loopbomb, Potentialbomb are the five recognized bombs for this tag.
tag/BOMBNAME -- as tag/Bombs but refers to a specific bomb. Will be applied to chapters alongside tag/Bombs. Formatted as tag/Metabomb.
tag/Infosec -- one or more information security measures were deployed in this chapter. "We kept our mouth shut" is not categorized under this tag, whereas "We used a privacy sphere" is.
tag/Characterization -- better described as "major characterization" than "characterization." Expect to see this only on chapters where major facets of people are in the open. Searching something like tag/Mami -tag/Mami-meta tag/Characterization should more or less produce a list consisting only of character-defining moments involving Mami.
tag/Critical -- one way or another this chapter matters too damn much, even considering all the other chapters that matter too damn much. In this category: threatening to witch Kirika, suggesting that Kirika's antimagic was purposed to turn off Oriko's precognition, explaining to Mami that she had really done hugely meaningful things for us on a personal level, etcetera.
E: one thing already strikes me, I dunno how we'd want GROUPNAME to interact with the clusterfuck that is Tokyo.
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
What about cases where the update is focused on people who aren't present? Like the updates where we are debating with Mami and Homura about oriko kirika, but oriko and kirika are not present and do not take part? Do those get tagged with oriko?
- Location
- Illinois
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
tag/Oriko-meta
That was very much the point of the -meta tag
Aah, the Oriko Meta, the dark times when every composition you play could be defeated by basically Oriko and two tanks, before her precog got nerfed.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Given how few things we need to know if people know, this might be better (or just also) served by articles on a given piece of information. Like
Witchbomb
The knowledge that magical girls turn into witches when their soul gems fill up, and the act of spreading that knowledge.
Known by:
Niko (ch. whatever)
Homura (Loop 3)
Shiogama (ch. whatever)
And so on.
- Location
- Illinois
That's pretty fair, I admit. My standing intent is to use the Infowar tag for things besides the bombs, though -- things like "telling Fukushima that we plan to preemptively strike Iowa" and the like. It's possible that will result in overtagging, but I think that in combination with basic summaries it will probably work fairly well...? >_<
I don't believe we have, but this is why I'm doing what I'm doing >_>