I dunno what inspired this, but here you go.
Unforeseen Consequences, but it's in green-text form.

>be me
>time traveling magical girl
>fucked up a loop once again
>lmao what else is new
>this loop started out the same as last time
>hopefully this time I fuck it up less
>anyways
>go hunting witch, running kinda low on seeds
>easy as hell, destroyed it without using too many bombs
>GetRektScrub.gif
>get seed, wait for barrier to drop
>as soon as barrier drops i see madoka, mami, and sayaka standing outside barrier
>what
>next to them a random girl i've never seen before
>no seriously, what
>look at all of them to make sure im not going crazy
>girl all of sudden introduces herself as sabrina
>I'veNeverMetThisGirlinMyLife.mpeg
>ask to have a word with her so i can see what her deal is
>when she says yes, everyone gets antsy
>jesus christ i'm not gonna shoot her yet
>madoka speaks up for me and gets everyone to relex
>TooPureForThisWorld.txt
>go into alley
>watch her closely
>doesn't seem like a threat for now
>ask her why shes here
>says she wants to not die and to solve the grief problem, and that her power was to control grief
>i guess she knew someone who told her about witches?
>ask her as much, but she says she cant remember anything
>the fuck do you know then
>ask her about walpurgisnacht
>fucking lists a bunch of facts all of a sudden like a robot
>NaniThefuck?
>no seriously, how the hell does she know this stuff even I don't know half this stuff
>then it comes to me
>is she here cause of madoka's wish?
>can her wish even do that?
>thoughts for later, i guess
>ask her if she's staying for walpurgisnacht
>she says yes
>she might be a powerful ally so I offer to let her stay at my apartment
>might as well if she gonna stay in the city
>asks if she can talk to the others first
>i don't see why not
>she asks me if I've met her before
>nope.avi
>go back to the others
>sabrina says that Im offering her a place to stay
>all of a sudden sayaka yells out that Im probably a vampire or something
>bitch you spend more time in a coffin then me
>mami makes an offer for sabrina to stay in her house instead
>sabrina takes her offer
>ok then
>sayaka laughs at me, as if she foiled some of my """"""evil""""" plans
>sabrina tries to defend me, but whatever, this is kinda par for the course with sayaka
>before i go sabrina all of a sudden telepathically talks to me and says that she'll try to make sure everyone works together
>good fucking luck on that
>since she seems to know all about magical girls, i give her a warning to not fuck it up, and leave

Well, today's been interesting. I didn't expect to meet a new girl, but here we are. I'm not sure what to think about her yet, but she might be a valuable ally for walpurgisnacht if nothing else. Either way, back to keeping Madoka safe.

I petition it is officially canon that Homura does this. It's how she coped.

"Okay, what dumb bullshit can I make 2chan believe this loop?" After a few loops, the best returns were telling then the truth.
 
It's not even really about how much easier she makes fights. Every action we take outside of Mitakihara is possible because we know Homura's staying on overwatch with Madoka.

This essentially. But it goes beyond that, and the question becomes, well, how far past that do we want to go?

And my answer has been, pretty far. I want to say things like, you know, without Homura Iowa would be circling us like a damn shark, QB'd be telling them everything we did, we'd be stuck full paranoia-ing all damn day and all damn night cuz we can't go out and find them cuz QB reporting our every move, QB'd be whispering in Madoka's ear about how ragged we're running ourselves -- and then, *then*, there's be fucking Walpurgisnacht.

HOW HE BLOODY FUCK are we handle WPN and also keep Iowa off us and also keep Madoka calm and we doing it alone groupwise (Mami Brina saya Ori kiri tops) cuz we kinnae leave town and fok, who knows, maybe Iowa hires Fukushima! Wot then!?

Saying something like that is the loop bomb at minimum which precludes Sayaka and possibly precludes Mami --in this scenario for the sake of not pushing any saya buttons-- although *hell* if it wouldn't work better if they were there for it... But also now is the time for it, cuz Iowa.

And it's really a pretty damn good case, too.
 
Bleh. I really don't want to drag this out across multiple updates if we don't have to.

[X] If she's comfortable with bringing Sayaka in, then sure!
-[X] Uh, private stuff first.
--[X] Quickly fill Homu in on Airi before she brings Sayaka and Mami in.
--[X] Let Homu know you appreciate everything she's doing to help you out. The only reason you're able to do so much abroad is because she's minding the fort here.
-[X] Explain everything you have heard about Iowa's methodologies and tendencies, including Yuki's evaluation of them having clairvoyant-esque information and their noted travel path.
--[X] There is small but significant chance that their "clairvoyant" is Kyubey, which is why you're going out of your way to only discuss this in timestop or privacy bubbles.
---[X] You don't want them getting anywhere near Mitakihara. You've already gotten a price quote from Yuki in case you choose to buy Fukushima's help with this and it's not unreasonable.
---[X] Their likely initial targets: Mitakihara Middle School, Hitomi or Madoka and their families, Sayaka's family... or Homura herself, if they know enough to try to take out our "trump card".
--[X] You're hoping that Oriko's new magic can help you spy on Iowa and pin down their location for a pre-emptive strike. Fingers crossed that they don't have a counter to Homura's power - that'd make this much easier.
--[X] You'll need to read Madoka and Hitomi in on the Iowa situation after school. Either of them being caught off guard would be *bad*, and they deserve to know besides. You're bringing it up with just the three of them (Mami, Homura, Sayaka) first so we can avoid any unnecessary panic.

How about this @Kaizuki ?
 
Well, today's been interesting. I didn't expect to meet a new girl, but here we are. I'm not sure what to think about her yet, but she might be a valuable ally for walpurgisnacht if nothing else. Either way, back to keeping Madoka safe.

I want you to do the Sayaka interactions now.

>Blueberry says that we are friends
>NANI
>omaewamoushindeiru.gif
>When the fuck did that happen
>homu.exe has stopped working
>please reboot

No, but seriously. This is golden. Like, remember that time when we called Homura mom to her face and she crashed?

>eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>nope.avi
>no
>no
>nopity nope
>(with Madoka?)
>shut up
>no u
>we are not having this conversation
>TOO BAD HOMU
>i said shut up
>your daughteru is waiting for your answer
>oh fuck she's still here

Almost every conversation with Homura can be retconned to occur between braindamaged 2chan posters and braindamaged SV posters.
The possibilities, they are endless.
 
Abridge all of adfligo systema in the form of greentext from homura

>wake up in an alley
>vomit blood
>oh well
>like
>you know
>dealwithit.png
>make a wish
>kirito foundation
>oh wait
>wrong abridged series
>wish to own grief
>all da grief
>ALL DA GRIEF
>muthafucka
>meet madoka & co
>be friends
>find homu
>be friends
>being friends with everyone is hard
>also mumi

This travesty can stretch on and on and on, for 50000 words in green text
I'm not sure the world is prepared for these levels of braindamage yet
Too soon
 
I'm not sure the world is prepared for these levels of braindamage yet

girl magic break thing
episode one: inexpectation happenings

bleh

she dying!

what do?


make contract!

become Meguca!


no

I become
Meguca

greef mine now

am Sabrina


Sabrina know Mami?

no

but brain damage

!!!

witch!


Mami coming

ohai

hai

meguca in barrier

am Sabrina

still brain damage


!!!

wut

...

...

...

...

hi!

why this

help meguca!

know Walmartnight?

very yes

how

brain damage

live with me?

no live with me

I pick Mumi

I go now

practice magic?

yes science

I clean sool jim


wow

hunt witch


much grief

wings now


shoot!

FINISH!


how cup

magic

I become meguca
 
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Right, I'm changing votes -- the most recent edit has started to take things in a direction that... let's be polite and just say it's in a direction that I'd rather not go.

[X] If she's comfortable with bringing Sayaka in, then sure!
-[X] Uh, witchy stuff first.
--[X] Quickly fill Homu in on Airi before she brings Sayaka and Mami in.
--[X] Let Homu know you appreciate everything she's doing to help you out.
-[X] Explain everything you have heard about Iowa's methodologies and tendencies, including Yuki's evaluation of them having clairvoyant-esque information and their noted travel path.
--[X] There is small but significant chance that their "clairvoyant" is Kyubey, which is why you're going out of your way to only discuss this in timestop or privacy bubbles.
---[X] You don't want them getting anywhere near Mitakihara. You've already gotten a price quote from Yuki in case you choose to buy Fukushima's help with this and it's not unreasonable.
---[X] Their likely initial targets: Mitakihara Middle School, Hitomi or Madoka and their families, Sayaka's family... or Homura herself, if they know enough to try to take out our "trump card".
--[X] You're hoping that Oriko's new magic can help you spy on Iowa and pin down their location for a pre-emptive strike. Homura's help will be invaluable there - we wouldn't be able to take them out a *quarter* as cleanly and safely without being able to ambush them like we did Rionna.
--[X] You'll need to read Madoka and Hitomi in on the Iowa situation after school. Either of them being caught off guard would be *bad*, and they deserve to know besides. You're bringing it up with just the three of them (Mami, Homura, Sayaka) first so we can avoid any unnecessary panic.
 
Has a strong chance of being actively obstructive. Because the entire argument centers around how we actually WOULD deal with Iowa without Homura being around, in a scenario where Iowa's clairvoyant is Kyubey OR where Kyubey is at least aiding Iowa, motivated by Kyubey's interests being clearly aligned WITH Iowa's and AGAINST us, and Iowa's overwhelming interest in working against us to obtain clear seeds.
It's not even really about how much easier she makes fights. Every action we take outside of Mitakihara is possible because we know Homura's staying on overwatch with Madoka.
I agree with these sentiments. Homura is better left protecting Madoka on homeguard duty than taken with us to whatever other country we'd be traveling for intercepting Iowa.

There needs to be somebody to guard Madoka at all times and right now Homura is unlikely to let it be anyone but her (or maybe Sabrina) and even suggesting anyone else is liable to piss her off. She won't let Madoka be moved from Mitakihara and dragged into meguca affairs either - which is a bad idea regardless - so there would need to be a really, really good reason to convince her to come along short of "conduct the entire operation in timestop and be back before Madoka knows anybody ever left".

The other reason it's a bad idea is because, remember, her main timestop ability has already been doxxed by Kyubey. Other people might have contingencies for dealing with it by now, especially if they are planning a full assault on Mitakihara. As Kyubey mentioned way before, Kirika is not the only magical girl in existence to have Antimagic abilities (and not even the only one we have access to with it since Sayaka copied it and Kazumi possibly could too). And Antimagic was a pretty good counter to Homura the one time it was used against her.

---[X] Their likely initial targets: Mitakihara Middle School, Hitomi or Madoka and their families, Sayaka's family... or Homura herself, if they know enough to try to take out our "trump card".
--[X] You're hoping that Oriko's new magic can help you spy on Iowa and pin down their location for a pre-emptive strike. Fingers crossed that they don't have a counter to Homura's power - that'd make this much easier.

I propose a modification to this:
---[X] Their likely initial targets: Mitakihara Middle School, Hitomi or Madoka and their families, Sayaka's family... or Homura herself, if they know enough to try to take out our "trump card".
----[X] Which is very possible since Kyubey has been spreading the info around, hence the pressing need to hit them first before they develop a way to come after her.
--[X] You're hoping that Oriko's new magic can help you spy on Iowa and pin down their location for a pre-emptive strike. Fingers crossed that they don't have a counter to Homura's power - that'd make this much easier. Take advantage of the fact they may have been tipped off to Homura's power in order to lay a trap* for them.

I realize that you guys may have misgivings telling Homura that her timestop power is now in the open thanks to Kyubey, but hear me out: the downsides to doing so are basically non-existent right now.

Before now, there would've been a pretty huge problem with telling Homura about it - it would have raised the question of where Kyubey got his intel from, would likely have pointed the finger squarely at Oriko and set Homura off on a murderpath against the latter with no way to repair relations between the two. The question was better left unasked back then.

Asking that question now? Yes. Yes, this is exactly the right time.

Not only do we have another potential clairvoyant to point the finger at, but we actually have a more or less surefire way at hand to make sure Oriko wasn't the one who told Kyubey and confirming this would strengthen the trust between her and Homura and Sayaka all at once.

How so?

Umika Misaki, or more relevantly her power. She can break into peoples minds and steal read their memories. We don't even have to call over Misaki - Sayaka has a copy of her power and we know is able to use it. All we have to do is get Sayaka to read her memories and make sure that Oriko wasn't the one who told Kyubey about Homura. This will answer the question for good on whether or not Oriko has been working against us the whole time. If it turns out she has been a traitor the whole while (unlikely) we will have exposed her and cut her off as a threat. But she almost certainly hasn't, which will set Homura and Sayaka much more at ease once they know for certain and possibly gain her some brownie points with Sayaka depending on how willing she is to expose her memories.

And then we can move on to finding out how Kyubey got his information on Homura. It's a win-win all round.

*Trap: This basically involves something along the lines of Sayaka dressing one of her clones up as a fake Homura (possibly using Michiru's illusion powers) and then pretending to be Homura and making Iowa show their hand and waste whatever decapitation strike tactic they had planned for Homura on the decoy.

>be me
>time traveling magical girl
>fucked up a loop once again
>lmao what else is new
>this loop started out the same as last time
>hopefully this time I fuck it up less
>anyways
>go hunting witch, running kinda low on seeds
>easy as hell, destroyed it without using too many bombs
>GetRektScrub.gif
>get seed, wait for barrier to drop
>as soon as barrier drops i see madoka, mami, and sayaka standing outside barrier
>what
>next to them a random girl i've never seen before

Hmm, you know now that you mention it... did we ever find out what exactly Homura was doing before we got picked up in the alley? I don't think we actually know much about the events that happened prior to "awakening". We should probably confirm with Homura at some point that she didn't do anything out of the ordinary that might have tipped off Kyubey about her timestop powers. Unlikely, but it's still a vague possibility and one that needs to be eliminated before investigating the possibility of Kyubey having an external source of info.
 
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Before now, there would've been a pretty huge problem with telling Homura about it - it would have raised the question of where Kyubey got his intel from, would likely have pointed the finger squarely at Oriko and set Homura off on a murderpath against the latter with no way to repair relations between the two. The question was better left unasked back then.
Pretty sure it was tipped off when we asked Homura to use her power, then between one moment and the next had clearly had a conversation.
 
Hmm, you know now that you mention it... did we ever find out what exactly Homura was doing before we got picked up in the alley? I don't think we actually know much about the events that happened prior to "awakening". We should probably confirm with Homura at some point that she didn't do anything out of the ordinary that might have tipped off Kyubey about her timestop powers. Unlikely, but it's still a vague possibility and one that needs to be eliminated before investigating the possibility of Kyubey having an external source of info.

Yeah, we are not asking that, because "reasons". Probably incredibly traumatic ones at that.

The idea to ask whether the previous loop and the current one differed in any way before Sabrina's appearance has been floating around for some time, but we don't do it and mostly assume that the loops were largely the same.

Besides, following that line of questioning might make Homura realize how incredibly bad she had been at human interaction before she met Sabrina, ( who is even worse sometimes lol delete this before posting ) because if she had had a precise understanding of how she fucked up and made Mami distrust her in the previous loop, then why did she do the same things in this one? Apathy, probably.
 
Pretty sure it was tipped off when we asked Homura to use her power, then between one moment and the next had clearly had a conversation.

Don't forget that Kyubey knows not just about the timestop, but also the rewind. He couldn't have gotten that from watching a split-second conversation.

Telling Homura about Kyubey's knowledge of her timestop and investigating it is really just a partial cover to working towards the bigger question of how he knows about the rewinds. We know that in canon, Kyubey certainly didn't figure it out until near the end of the month. Something happened in this story that let him figure it out by the time we fought Oriko.
Yeah, we are not asking that, because "reasons". Probably incredibly traumatic ones at that.

The idea to ask whether the previous loop and the current one differed in any way before Sabrina's appearance has been floating around for some time, but we don't do it and mostly assume that the loops were largely the same.

Besides, following that line of questioning might make Homura realize how incredibly bad she had been at human interaction before she met Sabrina, ( who is even worse sometimes lol delete this before posting ) because if she had had a precise understanding of how she fucked up and made Mami distrust her in the previous loop, then why did she do the same things in this one? Apathy, probably.
I actually agree, bringing it up out of the blue IS a bad idea.

It's not strictly necessary and should only be done at the point where we absolutely need to eliminate the possibility that Homura herself accidentally tipped off Kyubey early - and even then only when she's in a good mood, as even suggesting the possibility that she screwed up will make her upset. I don't believe it's very likely in any case. We know in canon that Kyubey never really twigged until the end of the loop, so I doubt Homura would suddenly have made a mistake like that now, in any case. And she couldn't possibly have blown her rewind power by accident.

If we bring it up, it should be done less in the way of asking "did you slip up before met" and more in the sense of "we know you almost certainly didn't slip up before we met you, so we need to find out how the **** the white rat found out".
 
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[x] Godwinson

Yeah I don't think this is quite the place to bring up something that might play into the Homu's anxiety. Maybe once we're a bit closer to the event and are engaging in serious contingency planning.
 
The thing is, we don't know how soon Kyubey finds out about the time loops.

Hear me out on this. We don't know what Homura had done in that timeline where QB only realized the truth in the end. She might have been super careful and cautious as possible, which resulted in failure and made her abandon that strategy in the following loops.

Secondly. We don't know when QB finds out about time travel in Madoka Magica. He might have known for a long, long time simply based on deduction and compounding evidence. Then he used it in tandem with the Potentialbomb to break her over the knee.

So we don't know if Homura has done anything suspicious enough to make QB realize that she's a time traveler, because we don't know how much and what kind of evidence he needs to conclude this. So eh.
 
The idea to ask whether the previous loop and the current one differed in any way before Sabrina's appearance has been floating around for some time, but we don't do it and mostly assume that the loops were largely the same.
Actually wait, I think there's a misunderstanding here.

I didn't mean asking about the previous loop, I meant asking about what Homura was doing in the CURRENT loop before we met. Still runs into similar issues, but not as bad as the kind you might be thinking.
 
The thing is, we don't know how soon Kyubey finds out about the time loops.

Hear me out on this. We don't know what Homura had done in that timeline where QB only realized the truth in the end. She might have been super careful and cautious as possible, which resulted in failure and made her abandon that strategy in the following loops.

Secondly. We don't know when QB finds out about time travel in Madoka Magica. He might have known for a long, long time simply based on deduction and compounding evidence. Then he used it in tandem with the Potentialbomb to break her over the knee.

So we don't know if Homura has done anything suspicious enough to make QB realize that she's a time traveler, because we don't know how much and what kind of evidence he needs to conclude this. So eh.
On the other hand, we basically do know what Homura has been doing in THIS timeline where Kyubey somehow knows early. And we know Homura very likely hasn't been doing anything that should've been able to tip Kyubey off about the rewinds.

Kyubey's memory is reset at the beginning of each loop. He never recognizes Homura, we know this for a fact. How long it takes Kyubey to realize may be questionable, but I find it hard to believe that he could figure out she was looping just by logical reasoning at the point we fought Oriko.

At that point, there was basically nothing at all to indicate that Homura was capable of such a thing. Not a single thing.
 
I would guess that some of the evidence that Kyubey uses in the canon timeline Homura having foreknowledge of events. I'm hoping that both us and Oriko being pre-cog BS helps throw the Incubator off of that.
 
I would guess that some of the evidence that Kyubey uses in the canon timeline Homura having foreknowledge of events. I'm hoping that both us and Oriko being pre-cog BS helps throw the Incubator off of that.
Kyubey already knows, Oriko told us way, way back during Direct Intervention 49. She didn't say that Kyubey WILL know in the future but verbatim "Kyubey already knows". Somehow, barely 4 days after Sabrina woke up in that alley, Kyubey already knew about the looping and the Potentialbomb. Probably even before, considering Oriko was putting plans in motion and breaking Hitomi's arm the very next day after contracting.

It's very unlikely that Homura did much more than raid the yakuza/SDF for guns and stalk Madoka and save her cat during the previous week prior to Sabrina waking up. She'd alienated Sayaka by that point, so she wasn't working or talking with any of the other girls. Barring some hugely unlikely screw-up on her part, I really can't see what else there may be other than Kyubey having some sort of external source for it. While it's true that we don't know how early Kyubey figured it out in other canon loops, all indications we know are it took him a good few weeks or even until Walpurgisnacht before he realized Homura wasn't just a precog or timestopper but a full-blown looper.

As early as a week and a half is just really, really suspicious. If there's no source and it was just us/Homura screwing up, it doesn't matter.

But if there is, we really need to know about it.

And put it this way as well - Homura is already having self-esteem issues. If she thinks she was always messing up every single loop and Kyubey always able to figure it out on his own by the time a week had gone by, she's going to break down even harder when Kyubey drops the bomb. Even if you don't personally believe it, assuming that there was a third-party to blame and it wasn't all her own fault is going to do wonders for keeping her sane in the long run.
 
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