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It's not that we haven't thought of how to use hammerspace... So much as this is the first time we tried. :p

Firnagzen said:
"Win some, lose some," Sayaka says, shrugging philosophically.
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What a wise Sayaka.

Almost as wise as Best Buddy.

(PS: Don't call Kirika 'Best Buddy' in front of Sayaka or, Doka forbid, in front of Homura.)

Firnagzen said:
So, I know this is a weird spot to end the update,
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What are you talking about, it's the perfect place to stop in order to maximize self doubt and PANIC.
 
Wait, could we spread grief fog through the fourth dimension as well? And if so, will we be able to find Mami's teacup? We could heat it for her. We'll be Mami's personal microwave.
 
Firnagzen said:
"Trying to figure out how quickly I can distinguish and activate powers if I have multiple available," Sayaka says, holding up the chain. "Not that well. Kinda confusing."
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Would having them on different body parts help? One on a belt, one on a wrist, one on the neck, and so on?
Firnagzen said:
There's more of it, volumetrically, but it's Witchy Grief. You collapse it back down into regular Grief, the sensation fading from your mind, and... yup. Back to the same amount.
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What happens if we feed one sphere to Kyuubey?
 
I wonder if that could have bearing in our argument.

:/

Part of why Oriko did so much shit was because she was convinced of her own death, which she prophesized 101%. But she's now rejected that, and is not a Seer anymore, because she now has the will to live, which runs opposite to what her visions showed her.

So there went one of the main reasons why Oriko was so dangerous.
 
So given that Sabrina's base enchantment is a form of non-Grief manipulation, the question is: Does she have any other special abilities? Magical Girls get their powers based on three different factors (wording, intention, and association). Sure, they don't always get abilities for all three, but Sabrina has mostly been using her obvious Grief Manipulation. Then there's how she hasn't done much with her hammer, despite knowing it should be possible to get crazy with it as shown by Kyouko.
 
Firnagzen said:
And by business you mean stalking Madoka and-or Oriko, of course
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And you~

Firnagzen said:
Rather than answer, she holds up her hand and twists it, an empty teacup twisting out of the air to rest on the palm of her hand. Now that you're looking, you can see the twist of ribbon that flickers away quick as thought. Mami flicks her hand again, and the cup vanishes with another lash of golden ribbon.
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Mami uses four-dimensional shenanigans in order to keep her tea warm. That... actually makes sense.

About that. Soooo, a nascent Witch Barrier as a part of Megucas' basic powerset seems more plausible now? Oh, and anyone with a passable knowledge of four-dimensional maths ( except Firn ) please raise your hands. I'm not very good at it, so correct me if I'm wrong but right off the bat:
Stuffing Grief into four dimensions instead of three should increase the volume we can reasonably contain in a cubic meter, sorta.
It could make Grief Shielding against Kyouko a little more plausible? Because the four-dimensional shield has more sides to it, so we can "rotate" it with a spear stuck in it as an example.
... well, that's all I can come up with for now. Underwhelming, I know. I'm too young for this shi

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Oh, oh. What would happen if we move Soul Jim into the fourth dimension? Something good? Something weird? By encompassing it in Grief and then rotating the tesseract with one side containing it into another cube it should make the structure impervious to any 3D attacks? Making Gem-shooting us much more complicated. Potentially.

We should probably ask Kyubei first, just in case.
 
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Onmur said:
Silly Raiseth.

We've long taught Homu that it's easier to observe someone by accompanying them openly if possible.

Why would she stalk us when we're about to hang out. :V
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So she could externally scream about having a daughter who is old enough to date already and chose to date her long-time friendly rival Mami Tomoe? :V
As opposed to just internally.
 
Good overall progress for everyone. Making enchanting practice a regular thing might be a good idea.

Seeing how everyone is just going along with 4-dimensional experimentation and the Banach-Tarski paradox I really wonder if it's just a Mitakihara thing or if everyone in Japan just learns all this stuff in school. Maybe we should check if everybody on this earth is just really good at math.
 
Guilop said:
Seeing how everyone is just going along with 4-dimensional experimentation and the Banach-Tarski paradox I really wonder if it's just a Mitakihara thing or if everyone in Japan just learns all this stuff in school. Maybe we should check if everybody on this earth is just really good at math.
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Yeah, Seykuu knowing about Banach-Tarski paradox very nearly finished me off. What am I doing with my life.

Ah yes. Cat memes.

It was probably a huge potential Wish, though how large of a territory it encompasses would be interesting to find out.
 
Raiseth said:
Oh, and anyone with a passable knowledge of four-dimensional maths ( except Firn ) please raise your hands.
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*Raises hand*
Raiseth said:
Stuffing Grief into four dimensions instead of three should increase the volume we can reasonably contain in a cubic meter, sorta.
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Yes. And not "sorta" - it's a vast difference. The volume of a hypercube with edge length L in n dimensions is L^n. In practice, of course, it also depends on the nature of the extra dimensions we add. Think of trying to move a sofa through a long hallway vs. through an empty room in a warehouse - same length, but the hallway is much narrower than the warehouse room and so you can't fit in as many sofas.

I think that our next course of action should be to spread our utility fog into a hypersphere. We need to explore our radius in those other dimensions and if there are any other objects there. We'll also want to look for further dimensions; 4 is good, 5 would be better.
 
Guilop said:
Good overall progress for everyone. Making enchanting practice a regular thing might be a good idea.

Seeing how everyone is just going along with 4-dimensional experimentation and the Banach-Tarski paradox I really wonder if it's just a Mitakihara thing or if everyone in Japan just learns all this stuff in school. Maybe we should check if everybody on this earth is just really good at math.
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I think other schools shown in side mangas have more normal curriculums at first glance.

So it might be just Mitakihara and some other schools around the world that are so... incredible.

BTW, we should totally give this perspective to Kirika. I don't think she has a high opinion of herself academically speaking, so we totally should ler her know that making it to second year at Mitakihara Middle already puts her quite highly on the intelligence scale. Or something. :p
 
Onmur said:
Why would she stalk us when we're about to hang out. :V
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Why does the sun shine?
Raiseth said:
I'm not very good at it, so correct me if I'm wrong but right off the bat:
Stuffing Grief into four dimensions instead of three should increase the volume we can reasonably contain in a cubic meter, sorta.
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Best case scenario is it lets us store as much three-dimensional grief in our range as you can store two-dimensional items in a three-dimensional space. Worst case is it's just given us another hundred meter sphere. Most likely Grief takes up some amount of space in this new dimension and we've got 49,348,220 (tetric?) meters to work with instead of 4,188,790 cubic meters.
 
Important questions, people.

[ ] Finally proceed to put all your Grief Cloud into hammerspace.

[ ] Keep Grief Cloud around to make more work for kb.
 
Betcha we will find Kyuubey chilling in other dimensions. Makes sense. He's always popping out of thin air.

Also, bet he's been watching out of our frame of reference. :p
 
Ompa60 said:
The utility fog is too convenient to give up. I'm fine with fine lying out gin and cash and stuff into the fourth dimension though.
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We could still have it in our dimensions as well, it would just require a larger amount of grief to fill to the same density. 4D isn't a pocket dimension, so much as an invisible extension of our current ones. We can have our cake and eat it too.
 
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