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I guess for me the biggest dilemma this next update is:

- Fly to Fukushima with Anri to negotiate. Drop her there or bring back a meguca guard.

Or,

- Leave Anri somewhere so we have more time for literally everything else.

EDIT: Also need to find a moment to get Homu in timestop for hugs! :p

Redshirt Army said:
I'm a bit unhappy with how hard we shut Niko down, there: We're planning on using a variant of the memory device to no-sell QB, remember?
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We still need to get some SCIENCE! time with Niko, anyway. We can discuss proper use of Memory Device then.
 
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[x] Sabrina

We should probably find some time to talk to Anri before we meet Nadia and the others? I don't imagine she'll want to sit through our meetings with our friends at lunch and whatnot.
 
We could ask O&K to watch her until after lunch, but no longer.

Also do remember that bringing O&K with us to meet the newgucas would be bad since there is Homu there.
 
Kaizuki said:
We could ask O&K to watch her until after lunch, but no longer.

Also do remember that bringing O&K with us to meet the newgucas would be bad since there is Homu there.
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Maybe we should drop O&K and Anri at Oriko's place either way. I don't like to impose further, but it'd really help right now. I don't want to worry the Shiogama girls off the bat by parading a dangerous meguca prisoner.

[] Mami (about lessening O&K's restrictions):
-[] Involving Kirika's parents
-[] Oriko's newly given role
-[] Involving Hitomi's parents

[] Sayaka can fly her way to school. Hug and praise.
-[] Mami can tag along or stay as she wishes.

[] Ask O&K to look after Anri until after lunch; drop them at Oriko's.
-[] Privately apologize for imposing on them.


[] Shiogama girls.

How do we want to introduce ourselves?

If we consider these girls has a friend die to a Witch not long ago, we might want to present ourselves as an authority, and a protector? Our tardiness plays against us, but can be used. After all, we were just taking care of some rogue meguca.

[] Shiogama girls.
-[] Be polite, be confident.
-[] Apologize for being late; some of your friends were attacked, but that's dealt with now.
-[] Offer a tour and to show them to their house. Invite them for lunch with everyone :O ?
-[] Offer a Clear Seed.

[] Tell Homura you need to talk in private.
-[] Hug first chance.

(This would go into its own one or two updates, as chats with Homu are usually difficult, and if we want to breach the thing about giving Oriko some freedom... or explaining how everything went... that's not a single update thing.)

[] Nadia, privacy sphere.
-[] Carefully prod about Witchbomb.

How to prod exactly I'm not sure. We could start asking about infohazards, we could promise we already know all about them (though I bet that's not a good guarantee), we could ask if Nadia knows what happen when Soul Gems fill up completely (since if she's not witchbombed, we can go "oh the meguca dies)?

?
 
Why do we need to talk to Homu in private? If it's not super important can we not constantly do private conversations? It's turning the pace of the quest into an even bigger slog than usual.
 
Muramasa said:
Why do we need to talk to Homu in private? If it's not super important can we not constantly do private conversations? It's turning the pace of the quest into an even bigger slog than usual.
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Because Homura's objections to anything regarding O&K are not something she can bring up in public.

If we ask the whole group whether we can give O&K some freedoms, Homura is pressed to either stonewall or acquiesce, but she can't actually bring up her problems with it, since she's not ready to share knowledge about the Loops.
 
Onmur said:
Because Homura's objections to anything regarding O&K are not something she can bring up in public.

If we ask the whole group whether we can give O&K some freedoms, Homura is pressed to either stonewall or acquiesce, but she can't actually bring up her problems with it, since she's not ready to share knowledge about the Loops.
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Alright I think we need to slow down a bit. The whole day so far has been dealing with crisis's and issues and I think everyone really needs to just chill and wind down a bit before tackling another hot button topic. We should interact with the Shiogama group and see that that goes through smoothly and also figure out what to do with Anri because she's an agitator. Also Mami offered to be a soundboard for this kind of thing, so I see no reason not to try with that first.

We need to pace ourselves.
 
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Muramasa said:
Alright I think we need to slow down a bit. The whole day so far has been dealing with crisis's and issues and I think everyone really needs to just chill and wind down a bit before tackling another hot button topic. We should interact with the Shiogama group and see that that goes through smoothly and also figure out what to do with Anri because she's an agitator. Also Mami offered to be a soundboard for this kind of thing, so I see no reason not to try with that first.

We need to pace ourselves.
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We need to get the meeting with Nadia and the Shiogama girls out of the way first, so this speculation for near-future updates.

One thing I can think of to speed up 'O&K freedoms' talk with Homura is just proposing our plan to her by telepathy first, rather than asking for timestop, and ask if it'd be a problem.

We can give our reasons and if Homura agrees, there's no need to a timestop talk, and that's quickly put behind.

If she doesn't agree, then I will want to have a private talk. We owe O&K this much.
 
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Onmur said:
One thing I can think of to speed up 'O&K freedoms' talk with Homura is just proposing our plan to her by telepathy first, rather than asking for timestop, and ask if it'd be a problem.
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She can't discuss the reasons for her misgivings over telepathy, either, so this as the same problems as bringing it up in a non-private conversation.
 
The Narrator said:
She can't discuss the reasons for her misgivings over telepathy, either, so this as the same problems as bringing it up in a non-private conversation.
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As I said, if she doesn't agree, then we need to talk it in private.

But just asking first opens the possibility she might agree without any need for convincing.


Temporary vote.

Mami's advice is sound, even if Homura's issues... are Homura's issues.

"I... don't understand Homura that well," Mami says quietly. "Perhaps you could convince her that the Kures are useful if allowed to roam?"

"Perhaps, but... Homura's problems run deeper than that," you say.
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[X] Mami:
-[X] Letting O&K roam some parts of Mitakihara. We need help organizing new arrivals.
-[X] Involving Kirika's parents.
-[X] Oriko's newly given role.
-[X] Involving Hitomi's parents.

[X] Praise Sayaka before (not-literally) dropping her at school.

[X] Ask O&K to look after Anri for a couple of hours. Drop them at Oriko's.
-[X] Privately apologize, we need to sort some things out.

[X] Shiogama girls.
-[X] (Telepathy: Ask Nadia about topics to avoid.)
-[X] Be friendly and empathetic. At their service, but don't overwhelm.
-[X] Introductions. (Use your surname).
-[X] Show interest if they want to share anything.

... This is an idea, but we make some people uncomfortable by making them call us by name. Maybe our new (still not official) surname could come in handy here.

EDIT: Consideration: Keep wearing/return Mami's hat before meeting the Shiogamas?
 
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Obviously.

It's the only way I see we can have a chance at bypassing a private talk in timestop with Homu over the O&K issue.

Personally, I'd rather just have the timestop convo, but I was surprised by how easily Homu let us take O&K with us, so if we present a good enough plan about giving O&K more freedom, we've got a chance to skip the time-stop talk.

It's basically the same chance that Homu will accept if we bring it up as a group, but without the social pressure from the others, and allowing to open up a private conversation to bring up her objections.
 
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Onmur said:
Obviously.

It's the only way I see we can have a chance at bypassing a private talk in timestop with Homu over the O&K issue.

Personally, I'd rather just have the timestop convo, but I was surprised by how easily Homu let us take O&K with us, so if we present a good enough plan about giving O&K more freedom, we've got a chance to skip the time-stop talk.

It's basically the same chance that Homu will accept if we bring it up as a group, but without the social pressure from the others, and allowing to open up a private conversation to bring up her objections.
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Honestly, I think Homura might be more accepting of the lessening of restrictions, for the following reason:

Oriko doesn't have her Wish-borne power anymore, she is no longer an oracle. She is no longer capable of setting up a fool-proof sequence of events in advance. Her actual danger is presently on the down low.
 
Faraway-R said:
Honestly, I think Homura might be more accepting of the lessening of restrictions, for the following reason:

Oriko doesn't have her Wish-borne power anymore, she is no longer an oracle. She is no longer capable of setting up a fool-proof sequence of events in advance. Her actual danger is presently on the down low.
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I'm hoping a plan to let O&K roam the parts of Mitakihara away from anywhere Madoka frequents will be... not discarded out of hand by Homu. :p

I wonder where Oriko's house is exactly.
 
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[] Meet the Shiogama girls
- [] How do you present yourself?

As second in command compared to Mami of course. :V
 
blast flame said:
[] Meet the Shiogama girls
- [] How do you present yourself?

As second in command compared to Mami of course. :V
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How about we try an experimental vote this time around?

[ ] Mami:
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami.

[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.

[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.

[ ] Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] (Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami)
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.
-[ ] Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami Mami.


(Discovery: apparently copy pasting the same word over and over makes the word counter count all the repeats as part of the same word, even with spaces in between.

Praise Mami!)
 
Thought: If proposing to let O&K have access to parts of the city, since Homura would pose the main obstacle to the idea (of giving O&K any freedom at all), what if we ask Homura to decide which areas ot Mitakihara O&K would have access to?
 
Onmur said:
Thought: If proposing to let O&K have access to parts of the city, since Homura would pose the main obstacle to the idea (of giving O&K any freedom at all), what if we ask Homura to decide which areas ot Mitakihara O&K would have access to?
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Honestly, my recommendation for any possibility of convincing Homura to let O&K out into the city would be to assign them chaperones when leaving the house. She didn't like it when we told her we had taken them grocery shopping, and her agreement to them going to Asunaro also involved them being out of the city, but having a minder with them seems like the idea most liable to have her let them out at all.
 
The Phoenixian said:
Honestly, my recommendation for any possibility of convincing Homura to let O&K out into the city would be to assign them chaperones when leaving the house. She didn't like it when we told her we had taken them grocery shopping, and her agreement to them going to Asunaro also involved them being out of the city, but having a minder with them seems like the idea most liable to have her let them out at all.
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Well, since we're going to Fukushima to get a chaperone, we might as well get two.

I wonder if they give discounts... :drevil:

Oh, I know, since we kinda-formally introduced Oriko into the team, how about we have Oriko chaperone Kirika, and we hire Kirika to chaperone Oriko? :V
 
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[X] Mami:
-[X] Involving Kirika's parents.
-[X] Oriko's newly given role.
-[X] Giving O&K limited access to Mitakihara.
-[X] Getting O&K a chaperone.
-[X] Involving Hitomi's parents.

[X] Praise Sayaka before (not-literally!) dropping her at school.

[X] Ask O&K to look after Anri for a couple of hours. Drop them at Oriko's.
-[X] Privately apologize, we need to sort some things out.

[X] Shiogama girls.
-[X] Be friendly and empathetic. You're here to help.
-[X] Introductions. Use your surname.
-[X] Show them to their new house.

So, should we give specifics for our meeting with the Shiogama girls?

For example, explaining the simple rules, such as 'don't cause trouble', 'don't use magic against people', 'you get free cleansing and housing', 'you don't need to fight witches', etc., etc.?

EDIT: Or just
[] Introductions
[] Cut to voting after first impression.
 
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