Omegastar
fear the {CENSORED}.
give her a week at most maybe...ish?
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Too long given the timetables involved and how much can change in a week. We want to lay the groundwork for this long before that.
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
Needs to be *more* than a week. Mami needs at least that much time to get her feet under herself again, then another week or so to really get back into a stable routine that she can use to cope. After that, we wait another week just to make sure things aren't about to explode, *then* we propose having a chat with Kyouko and/or Yuma.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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- He/Him
...er, thanks? Thing is, a lot of my posts boil down to that same point--more often than not, there's no need to take drastic and risky actions right now. Especially when doing so has been something of a knee-jerk reaction to many things in this quest. Hell, practically every action regarding the Sendai group ran into this. There's a lot of paranoia that assumes that if something goes wrong, it will go wrong completely immediately. Thus, preemptive extreme (or risky) actions.
And when it comes to social-fu, there's a tendency to either push too hard to achieve a goal (become friends with, get them to willingly admit a personal trauma to you, etc) or to keep conversations to purely practical and immediate concerns--as if friendships are built on business transactions--and then leaving. Giving up on conversation too early, or making too certain of a judgment based on very limited info, are common pitfalls. Granted, some of that comes from player expectations regarding GM style, practice, and player experience with other quests, but communicating with the GM first in these instances is something to at least try.
The Nagisa case is definitely one such instance--I wouldn't expect something that extreme to happen so suddenly and without warning, but it's possible, and entirely in the hands of the GM, so it's a perfectly fair concern. I can't remember what the details are about what we need to tell Nagisa, when we last spoke to her, and why we should do it now as opposed to tomorrow morning or something, so I'll just defer there.
Perhaps we should meet with Kyouko again in the near future and gauge the mood before making that judgment call? It could be that Kyouko will be a lot more receptive to/sympathetic of Mami when her own self-confidence is broken. Or it could be that Mami will actively want to apologize to Kyouko once she stabilizes and feels more secure. Let's not jump to conclusions about the best course of action before we get some information to work with.
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
Err, Cras, I don't think we can afford to wait three weeks to have Mami and Kyouko patch up. Big wally is coming around in four weeks time, and whatever Oriko foresaw is going to start making itself known in about two weeks. Ideally, Kyouko and Mami should be meeting up by the next week, definitely before we have to start dealing with black feathers. We can adjust this timetable depending on how Kyouko reacts the next time we meet her, but putting this off for three weeks is going way too much in the opposite direction.
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
Go to agree with the military rodent on this one. What's actually healthy is entirely secondary to incoming natural disaster Witches.
3 days. Maybe not even that. We can cart Mami around tomorrow, try reintroducing her to society using Homura on either the next day or tomorrow night, add Sayaka and Madoka to the equation the next day, and then start making overtures to Kyouko at that point. If she's amenable, we can try getting them to put their issues aside at that point.
She CAN however, wait to go back to school for a week or two.
3 days. Maybe not even that. We can cart Mami around tomorrow, try reintroducing her to society using Homura on either the next day or tomorrow night, add Sayaka and Madoka to the equation the next day, and then start making overtures to Kyouko at that point. If she's amenable, we can try getting them to put their issues aside at that point.
She CAN however, wait to go back to school for a week or two.
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
Mmmrrrrrrrr I don't really like going that quickly but everyone's right on that. I'd... still opt for taking more, rather than less, time.
- Location
- Somewhere near L1... I think
I like this idea. So the way we reintroduce Mami to the world and hopefully get her feeling normal is 1) get her talking to Homura, 2) maybe talk to Sayaka and Madoka, 3) talk to Nagisa, 4) talk to Masami and friend, 5) talk to Kyoko and Yuma
1) Homura is the best person for her to talk to other than us because Homura has already gone through all the shocks of being a meguca. We went in knowing what the deal was so we can't really connect as well as Homu would. That is, if Homu's speech rolls cooperate and she's friendly. While Homura would be the best at helping her come to terms and possibly getting her involved in the "don't let Madoka contract" plan, it could backfire in the "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME" kind of way. That seems mostly defused so it should be fairly smooth outside of Mumi feeling guilty about her earlier attitude toward Homura.
2) Sayaka and Madoka will undoubtedly give Mami support, however we need to remember that Mami was actively trying to recruit them. Mami might already be developing a guilt complex over getting Masami and Kyoko to contract, so having her talk to two people she almost did the same thing to could be risky. I am confident they will forgive her. Doing that and promising to stay her friends will help her emotional recovery immensely.
3) Nagisa is pure outsider. She is completely out of the loop and is a guilt free association for Mami. This is to pull her away from concentrating on her status as a magical girl and more on her favorite things: making friends and cooking. The bonus is that Nagisa is friggin' adorable and cheerful.
4) Masami (and Kyoko) is optional. While it would be nice for them to make-up and sing kumbaya together, it is not necessary to complete our short term objectives (defeat Walmartnight, stop Homura from becoming Homucifer, etc.) so we can set that off until later if and when we get to the long term goals (grief management, Meguca Inc., overthrow the incubators, etc.). After meeting with Homu-homu, Blueberry, the One, and Normal, then we can re-evaluate Mami's disposition and the possibility of having her try to talk to Masami and Kyoko.
Those are my thoughts on the matter, what do you guys think we should do to make Mumi feel better in the long term though?
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
What Higure said. Masami's views on Mami range from resentment at the very least to outright hatred, while the situation between Mami and Kyouko mostly continues to exists due to inertia, assuming I haven't misread their situation. We should handle the Kyouko situation before moving on to Masami.
Undue Alarm pt. 32
The two of you continue eating, while Mami sneaks little glances at you as she does.
"Hey, Mami?" you say, catching her attention.
She immediately swallows her mouthful and looks attentively at you. "Yes, Sabrina?"
"What shall we do tomorrow?" you ask, hiding a grimace at the way Mami's hanging on to your words.
"Oh..." She purses her lips, thinking. "Ah... well, we need groceries. And... we were going to go shopping for clothes for you, weren't we?" She suddenly looks anxious again. "I-if that's alright with you?"
You nod with a smile. "Sounds good, Mami. Are we going to bring Madoka and Sayaka along? And Homura?"
"Maybe not for the groceries?" Mami offers. "But if you want them along..."
"Nah, you're right," you agree. "Grocery shopping isn't terribly interesting. We can ask them tomorrow?"
"That sounds good," Mami says, a smile lighting up her face at your approval, chasing away her worried frown. "We can get groceries at the supermarket nearby, but for shopping... There's a big shopping center we can go to..." She directs an appraisingly look upon you. "You'd look good in... light colours. White, blue... hm... green?"
She blinks, and a frown sneaks its way onto her face again. "Of course, if you have any preferences..."
You shake your head. "Nah, I'm sure you can help me pick something nice," you smile. "It's OK, Mami, it really is."
Mami bobs her head. "If you say so."
You quickly finish up your dinner and clean up, Mami a warm presence at your side as the two of you wash the dishes at the sink. "Hmmm..." you mumble as your elbow bumps against Mami again.
"So-sorry!" the blonde says, instantly bouncing clear of you as if she'd touched a hot stove.
"No, not that, Mami," you reassure her. "It's fine! I was just thinking I should call Nagisa again."
"O-oh," Mami says, skittishly creeping closer to you again. Very deliberately, you nudge her in the ribs with your elbow, drawing a startled giggle from the blonde.
"I think... we should warn her about Kyuubey," you say.
"O-oh," she says, face immediately falling. "She... she's a potential?"
"Yeah," you reply. "I'm sorry, but..."
"I-I- understand," Mami nods, closing her eyes in pain.
You wipe your hands dry, and draw her into a hug. "Do you... want to help?"
She shakes her head wordlessly.
Before too long, Mami's sitting down to do her homework after a little coaxing from you. You grab the house phone, and dial Shin's phone number, and walk around the living room patiently while it rings - it's a cordless phone.
"BIG SIS!" A yell greets you the moment the call is picked up. You lean away from the receiver, laughing. Mami glances up at you with a wan smile.
"Hi, Nagisa," you say. "How are you?"
"Ah... good!" she says. "Uncle Shin says that I'll be staying with him from now on!"
That was remarkably fast, you muse. Then again, her uncle probably didn't tell her the full details. "Oh, that's good," you say. "Hey, listen," you add as you walk further away from Mami, hoping she doesn't hear you - wouldn't do to remind her, after all. "Do you remember what I said about a talking white cat?"
"Huh?" Nagisa says. You can imagine the little tilt of her head accompanying that questioning tone. "Cats can't talk, big sis."
Kids.
"Ah... well, this one can. If a white talking cat with pink eyes and these ribbony tassel things coming out of its ears talks to you," you tell her, "Be careful, OK? Tell me immediately, and don't agree to anything it says."
"O-OK?" Nagisa says, sounding confused. "If you say so."
"Alright," you nod. "Please remember, Nagisa, this is important," you stress, trying to impress the seriousness of the situation upon her.
You talk to Nagisa a little more before hanging up the phone call -apparently her uncle is busy with something?- and go over to Mami, who seems to have stalled on her homework and has been gazing aimlessly at the wall in between darting glances at you.
"What's wrong, Mami?" you ask.
"Kyuubey," she says simply.
You grimace, patting her arm. "You didn't know, Mami."
"It's just..." Mami shakes her head. "You won't... leave me, right?"
"Silly Mami," you smile. "I've said it before, you're a wonderful person, and I'm proud to be your friend."
Mami takes a shaky breath. "Thank you, Sabrina."
"Anyway, do your homework, OK? I'll go clean up the bathroom," you tell her.
"Ah... I should help," she says, half rising from her chair.
You gently push her down with your hands on her shoulders. "It's fine, Mami, I can handle this."
"O-OK," she says.
You head to the bathroom, golden eyes watching you anxiously as you move. You give Mami a smile and a wave before disappearing into the bathroom.
"Homura?" you call telepathically as you hunt for a mop to mop up the spilled tea. The Grief marbles scattered around float themselves back into your sling bag in the living room, and you pocket the two Grief Seeds.
"Busy," she snaps back. "One moment. OK, done."
"Uhhh... right," you respond. Timestop, you figure. You finally locate the mop and begin mopping up the bathroom. "I uh, told Mami about the nature of Soul Gems."
"You did what." Flat disbelief colours Homura's usually emotionless voice.
"I told Mami about Soul Gems... and Kyuubey," you say.
Telepathy conveys a weary sigh to you. "Understood. You... can stay over at my house."
"Uh, that won't be necessary," you reply. Where did you toss that towel earlier? You find it in the sink, and wring it out, before dropping it into the wash basket.
"... explain?" Homura asks, tone utterly befuddled.
"I'm still staying with Mami," you tell her. "She's fine. Ish. I'm still, uh, helping her deal with it."
"... OK...?"
"So... yeah. That's what I wanted to tell you," you say.
"... OK?" Homura replies.
"Yeah," you say. "Um, bye. See you tomorrow, maybe? We might be going shopping."
"... Right... Bye," the time traveller agrees.
You rinse off the mop in a bucket of water, as Mami appears in the doorway. "I'm done with my homework!" she says, looking around the bathroom, and at you, anxiously.
You smile at her. "That's good. I'm about done here too," you say as you tip the dirtied water away. "How about your test?"
Mami shakes her head. "Not tonight, I think, unless yo-"
"Mami, no," you say. "If you think it's fine, then it's fine. Anyway, do you want to shower, or may I have it first?"
"Ah, you should shower first, of course!" Mami says.
You smile. "Thanks."
She lingers in the bathroom, simply watching you as you put the mop and the bucket back, before reluctantly stepping out of the room for you to shower. When you finish said shower, you find her sitting on the sofa, watching the door fretfully. Her expression immediately clears when you open the door, though.
"Hey, your turn," you call.
Mami's shower is extraordinarily quick, and she bursts out of the bathroom in mere minutes, eyes hunting for you, and only relaxes when she sees you sitting on the sofa, idly watching the television. She moves over, and sits beside you, shoulder bumping yours while she combs out her damp hair with her fingers to help it dry.
"S-Sabrina?" she asks. "Is it OK if... you sleep in my room tonight? U-uh, not on the same bed! We never did move that mattress out..."
[] Agree
[] Disagree
[] Write-in next morning's activities
[] Write-in
Nope, got nothin'. Oh wait, yes, I do.
Here ends Chapter 5: Undue Alarm. Because seriously. Undue alarm. Over the Sendai girls.
Chapter 6, Apprehension, begins with the next post.
"Hey, Mami?" you say, catching her attention.
She immediately swallows her mouthful and looks attentively at you. "Yes, Sabrina?"
"What shall we do tomorrow?" you ask, hiding a grimace at the way Mami's hanging on to your words.
"Oh..." She purses her lips, thinking. "Ah... well, we need groceries. And... we were going to go shopping for clothes for you, weren't we?" She suddenly looks anxious again. "I-if that's alright with you?"
You nod with a smile. "Sounds good, Mami. Are we going to bring Madoka and Sayaka along? And Homura?"
"Maybe not for the groceries?" Mami offers. "But if you want them along..."
"Nah, you're right," you agree. "Grocery shopping isn't terribly interesting. We can ask them tomorrow?"
"That sounds good," Mami says, a smile lighting up her face at your approval, chasing away her worried frown. "We can get groceries at the supermarket nearby, but for shopping... There's a big shopping center we can go to..." She directs an appraisingly look upon you. "You'd look good in... light colours. White, blue... hm... green?"
She blinks, and a frown sneaks its way onto her face again. "Of course, if you have any preferences..."
You shake your head. "Nah, I'm sure you can help me pick something nice," you smile. "It's OK, Mami, it really is."
Mami bobs her head. "If you say so."
You quickly finish up your dinner and clean up, Mami a warm presence at your side as the two of you wash the dishes at the sink. "Hmmm..." you mumble as your elbow bumps against Mami again.
"So-sorry!" the blonde says, instantly bouncing clear of you as if she'd touched a hot stove.
"No, not that, Mami," you reassure her. "It's fine! I was just thinking I should call Nagisa again."
"O-oh," Mami says, skittishly creeping closer to you again. Very deliberately, you nudge her in the ribs with your elbow, drawing a startled giggle from the blonde.
"I think... we should warn her about Kyuubey," you say.
"O-oh," she says, face immediately falling. "She... she's a potential?"
"Yeah," you reply. "I'm sorry, but..."
"I-I- understand," Mami nods, closing her eyes in pain.
You wipe your hands dry, and draw her into a hug. "Do you... want to help?"
She shakes her head wordlessly.
Before too long, Mami's sitting down to do her homework after a little coaxing from you. You grab the house phone, and dial Shin's phone number, and walk around the living room patiently while it rings - it's a cordless phone.
"BIG SIS!" A yell greets you the moment the call is picked up. You lean away from the receiver, laughing. Mami glances up at you with a wan smile.
"Hi, Nagisa," you say. "How are you?"
"Ah... good!" she says. "Uncle Shin says that I'll be staying with him from now on!"
That was remarkably fast, you muse. Then again, her uncle probably didn't tell her the full details. "Oh, that's good," you say. "Hey, listen," you add as you walk further away from Mami, hoping she doesn't hear you - wouldn't do to remind her, after all. "Do you remember what I said about a talking white cat?"
"Huh?" Nagisa says. You can imagine the little tilt of her head accompanying that questioning tone. "Cats can't talk, big sis."
Kids.
"Ah... well, this one can. If a white talking cat with pink eyes and these ribbony tassel things coming out of its ears talks to you," you tell her, "Be careful, OK? Tell me immediately, and don't agree to anything it says."
"O-OK?" Nagisa says, sounding confused. "If you say so."
"Alright," you nod. "Please remember, Nagisa, this is important," you stress, trying to impress the seriousness of the situation upon her.
You talk to Nagisa a little more before hanging up the phone call -apparently her uncle is busy with something?- and go over to Mami, who seems to have stalled on her homework and has been gazing aimlessly at the wall in between darting glances at you.
"What's wrong, Mami?" you ask.
"Kyuubey," she says simply.
You grimace, patting her arm. "You didn't know, Mami."
"It's just..." Mami shakes her head. "You won't... leave me, right?"
"Silly Mami," you smile. "I've said it before, you're a wonderful person, and I'm proud to be your friend."
Mami takes a shaky breath. "Thank you, Sabrina."
"Anyway, do your homework, OK? I'll go clean up the bathroom," you tell her.
"Ah... I should help," she says, half rising from her chair.
You gently push her down with your hands on her shoulders. "It's fine, Mami, I can handle this."
"O-OK," she says.
You head to the bathroom, golden eyes watching you anxiously as you move. You give Mami a smile and a wave before disappearing into the bathroom.
"Homura?" you call telepathically as you hunt for a mop to mop up the spilled tea. The Grief marbles scattered around float themselves back into your sling bag in the living room, and you pocket the two Grief Seeds.
"Busy," she snaps back. "One moment. OK, done."
"Uhhh... right," you respond. Timestop, you figure. You finally locate the mop and begin mopping up the bathroom. "I uh, told Mami about the nature of Soul Gems."
"You did what." Flat disbelief colours Homura's usually emotionless voice.
"I told Mami about Soul Gems... and Kyuubey," you say.
Telepathy conveys a weary sigh to you. "Understood. You... can stay over at my house."
"Uh, that won't be necessary," you reply. Where did you toss that towel earlier? You find it in the sink, and wring it out, before dropping it into the wash basket.
"... explain?" Homura asks, tone utterly befuddled.
"I'm still staying with Mami," you tell her. "She's fine. Ish. I'm still, uh, helping her deal with it."
"... OK...?"
"So... yeah. That's what I wanted to tell you," you say.
"... OK?" Homura replies.
"Yeah," you say. "Um, bye. See you tomorrow, maybe? We might be going shopping."
"... Right... Bye," the time traveller agrees.
You rinse off the mop in a bucket of water, as Mami appears in the doorway. "I'm done with my homework!" she says, looking around the bathroom, and at you, anxiously.
You smile at her. "That's good. I'm about done here too," you say as you tip the dirtied water away. "How about your test?"
Mami shakes her head. "Not tonight, I think, unless yo-"
"Mami, no," you say. "If you think it's fine, then it's fine. Anyway, do you want to shower, or may I have it first?"
"Ah, you should shower first, of course!" Mami says.
You smile. "Thanks."
She lingers in the bathroom, simply watching you as you put the mop and the bucket back, before reluctantly stepping out of the room for you to shower. When you finish said shower, you find her sitting on the sofa, watching the door fretfully. Her expression immediately clears when you open the door, though.
"Hey, your turn," you call.
Mami's shower is extraordinarily quick, and she bursts out of the bathroom in mere minutes, eyes hunting for you, and only relaxes when she sees you sitting on the sofa, idly watching the television. She moves over, and sits beside you, shoulder bumping yours while she combs out her damp hair with her fingers to help it dry.
"S-Sabrina?" she asks. "Is it OK if... you sleep in my room tonight? U-uh, not on the same bed! We never did move that mattress out..."
[] Agree
[] Disagree
[] Write-in next morning's activities
[] Write-in
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Here ends Chapter 5: Undue Alarm. Because seriously. Undue alarm. Over the Sendai girls.
Chapter 6, Apprehension, begins with the next post.
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Mister Bad Guy
Mr Mercury to friends
- Location
- Bay Area
Someone's got a cru~ush...
...Yeah, this really is not good at all. Cute aside, we want Mami to be stable and properly happy, otherwise it's pretty much glorified Stockholm syndrome and not very good for anyone's mental state.
Short term, we get Madoka and Sayaka in on things. Longer term, Kyouko's going to mend bridges whether she likes it or not.
Not sure about this vote but here's my first idea:
[] Agree
[]Get up early. Get things ready. When Mami wakes, see if she's in any state to go to school. Don't let her just say "yes" due to cultural expectations. Point out she's more than justified to call in sick.
-[]If she goes...
--[]Tell her we'll be there if she needs anything.
--[]Tactfully ask if she wants to warn Sayaka and Madoka about Kyubey or to wait to do it together after school.
--[]Witch hunt. Go look for Kyouko in Kasamino. Bring the unused seeds for use as a peace offering.
-[]If she stays...
--[]Keep talking to her. See if she's okay with leaving the apartment at least. Just staying there can't be good.
Short term, we get Madoka and Sayaka in on things. Longer term, Kyouko's going to mend bridges whether she likes it or not.
Not sure about this vote but here's my first idea:
[]Get up early. Get things ready. When Mami wakes, see if she's in any state to go to school. Don't let her just say "yes" due to cultural expectations. Point out she's more than justified to call in sick.
-[]If she goes...
--[]Tell her we'll be there if she needs anything.
--[]Tactfully ask if she wants to warn Sayaka and Madoka about Kyubey or to wait to do it together after school.
--[]Witch hunt. Go look for Kyouko in Kasamino. Bring the unused seeds for use as a peace offering.
-[]If she stays...
--[]Keep talking to her. See if she's okay with leaving the apartment at least. Just staying there can't be good.
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AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
Sabrina/Mami confirm
...Rethinking the vote then.
LanceGT0
Lurk Master
- Location
- GMT +7
I laughed at Homura reaction. Poor Mami though.
I'm not sure why but I can't help but imagine Homura sounding like:
even though it would be wildly out of character for her.
