That's the gif looping strangely. In the original scene, she goes from surprised to happy.
Seen here: The reason I dislike trying to keep Madoka from ever Wishing. We never see her this happy at any other point in the entirety of the series. This moment, when she got to be the Magical Girl she dreamt of being and saved a friend's life...this is when Madoka was at her happiest.

I know some people find fulfillment in normal, mundane lives...but not everyone does. A lot of people live and die miserable and unfulfilled, getting by on hollow pleasures and fear of death.

Maybe Madoka can be happy as a normal, mundane human...but we KNOW that protecting others as a Magical Girl brings her overwhelming happiness.

We need to find a way to avert Witchout and Grief buildup, yes. We need to be sure she can Wish safely (which is as easy as getting Oriko back online to see what happens if Madoka makes a normal or self-preservative Wish). We need to avert the Homu-freakout. All of that must happen before we even consider letting her Wish. That said...if we do manage all of those...we shouldn't deny her a real chance at happiness.
 
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Seem here: The reason I dislike trying to keep Madoka from ever Wishing. We never see her this happy at any other point in the entirety of the series. This moment, when she got to be the Magical Girl she dreamt of being and saved a friend's life...this is when Madoka was at her happiest.
Ehhh, that just reinforces my personal belief (one I realize is not shared by many) that Madoka is...wierd, to be polite about it.
 
Part of it is because of not-so-good self-esteem, if I remember right. That is, she feels useless and helpless otherwise.
 
Being a guidance counselor for megucas in need isn't good enough for her? Emotional health is vital for magical girls! :V
I kinda pity clinical psychologists and guidance conselors: They usually know what to do, but they're utterly helpless if their patient is simply unwilling or unable to do it.:cry: At least a psychiatrist can throw pills at the problem.:V
 
I kinda pity clinical psychologists and guidance conselors: They usually know what to do, but they're utterly helpless if their patient is simply unwilling or unable to do it.:cry: At least a psychiatrist can throw pills at the problem.:V
The patient may not always take said pills. :V

And not all psychological concerns are because of being physically or mentally ill.
 
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Your eyes spring open a moment later as you turn to what's important: Mami.

Mmm.

I wanted to take a break from vote discussion a bit to discuss this line.

Right now, I think that this is just a little silly aside, a way of showing how Sabrina unwinds from the stress of planning major actions with a lot on the line: by being close with her girlfriend. And that's fine.

After all, Sabrina doesn't actually think snuggling with Mami is more important than the lives of the dozens of girls that the Asunaro situation would destroy if left unchecked, right?

Right?

After all, that kind of PMOM!Kirika-esque obsession would be a terrible waste of the decent character Sabrina has been up to this point.

I'm glad we could clear this up.
 
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Let's not interpret that line in the worst and most literal manner.

That's Sabrina being close to Mami. That does not mean she doesn't consider her friends as important, because she does care for them.

That doesn't mean she won't do her best to help others either. Of course she will do that. She's like Madoka in that manner.
 
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Hm. Reading through the vote options, I can't help but feel that the Walpurgisnacht and Tokyo topics are a little... off? Like they're kind of a tangent away from the primary point of the conversation: Homura. Or at least the Tokyo topic is kinda out of nowhere and WPN could be discussed differently.

If we were to discuss WPN, we should discuss specifically our speculation on her origins and possible "motivations." Those points at least have some relevance to the overall discussion, and do tie in to talking about the loops and the Potentialbomb. Recruitment and the Tokyo issue can be left to actual planning sessions with our allies and friends, after we deal with Asunaro. Let's not get too much on our plate at once.

Also, I feel we should think carefully about what we want out of this discussion. If we are going to be hitting Homura with the Potentialbomb, then we should keep the beginning of the conversation somewhat lighter. Keep her from getting stressed out early on; there's plenty of that to come later.
 
P-Mom Kirika. :V

Hm. Reading through the vote options, I can't help but feel that the Walpurgisnacht and Tokyo topics are a little... off? Like they're kind of a tangent away from the primary point of the conversation: Homura. Or at least the Tokyo topic is kinda out of nowhere and WPN could be discussed differently.

If we were to discuss WPN, we should discuss specifically our speculation on her origins and possible "motivations." Those points at least have some relevance to the overall discussion, and do tie in to talking about the loops and the Potentialbomb. Recruitment and the Tokyo issue can be left to actual planning sessions with our allies and friends, after we deal with Asunaro. Let's not get too much on our plate at once.

Also, I feel we should think carefully about what we want out of this discussion. If we are going to be hitting Homura with the Potentialbomb, then we should keep the beginning of the conversation somewhat lighter. Keep her from getting stressed out early on; there's plenty of that to come later.
Here I think we're starting by relaxing down, then going into light-ish topics before going into the heavier stuff next vote.

It's just that Homu doesn't do light light topics. If you wanna talk with her casually, it needs to be... well, not that causal, it needs to be something she cares about in her hyper-focused psyche.

So I consider the talk about Walpy's origins to be a 'light' topic when it comes to talking with Homu.
 
It's just that Homu doesn't do light light topics. If you wanna talk with her casually, it needs to be... well, not that causal, it needs to be something she cares about in her hyper-focused psyche.

So I consider the talk about Walpy's origins to be a 'light' topic when it comes to talking with Homu.
That sounds about right. She really has no interests outside of killing Walpurgis, saving her friends, and saving her 'Doka. Everything else is a triviality to her, at best.
 
P-Mom Kirika. :V


Here I think we're starting by relaxing down, then going into light-ish topics before going into the heavier stuff next vote.

It's just that Homu doesn't do light light topics. If you wanna talk with her casually, it needs to be... well, not that causal, it needs to be something she cares about in her hyper-focused psyche.

So I consider the talk about Walpy's origins to be a 'light' topic when it comes to talking with Homu.

Yeah, that was basically my thought process as well - this is the casual conversation. Note that Sabrina has repeatedly expressed her difficulties in talking to Homura without a definite plan. Leaving the small-talk to Sabrinapilot without hashing out a conversation map won't end well.
 
https://vebyast.github.io/pmas-discord-quotes/#/quote_id/329995237009391627

Regarding:

Mmm.

I wanted to take a break from vote discussion a bit to discuss this line.

Right now, I think that this is just a little silly aside, a way of showing how Sabrina unwinds from the stress of planning major actions with a lot on the line: by being close with her girlfriend. And that's fine.

After all, Sabrina doesn't actually think snuggling with Mami is more important than the lives of the dozens of girls that the Asunaro situation would destroy if left unchecked, right?

Right?

After all, that kind of PMOM!Kirika-esque obsession would be a terrible waste of the decent character Sabrina has been up to this point.

I'm glad we could clear this up.
 
... Greetings?
I hope I am not interrupting anything.
After that last Blunder of mine a few months back (Sorry Aura(Sorry for bad conduct about this apology, I do not know the hows whys or otherwise how to go about this)),
I thought I was a bit melodramatic and gathered some courage to try this again.
Although I do not currently know whether that would fit anywhere in the upcoming votecycles, how useful would it be for Homura to tell her the thing Kyubey did to Madoka when he went for the whole Kettle, Cleopatra and MG's across earths history thing?
Like, my memory may be spotty there, but it was quite a big factor behind her wishing, so warning Homura about aggressive advertisement through enforced telepathic visions (IIRC that certainly looked uncomfortable for Mado?).

And now I will look through old posts by Firn and see what comes to mind, See you (hopefully) soon!
(Hope I didn't bother anyone...)
 
That sounds about right. She really has no interests outside of killing Walpurgis, saving her friends, and saving her 'Doka. Everything else is a triviality to her, at best.
Walpurgisnacht really grinds her gears.
Although I do not currently know whether that would fit anywhere in the upcoming votecycles, how useful would it be for Homura to tell her the thing Kyubey did to Madoka when he went for the whole Kettle, Cleopatra and MG's across earths history thing?
I'm unfamiliar with this. Where was it?
 
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