celdak
[Maniacal laughter]
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- Behind you.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Grief opposable toes?Do hand holding, but with our feet instead of our hands. Our feet are out of sight, right?
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
But I want people to call me Tim. That's who I present myself as to other people, so why be rude and insist on calling me something else?
It's a very small thing for someone to do, and the fact that they aren't doing so when we aren't even close says a lot about how they regard me.
RagnorakTres
Technically Correct
- Location
- A Rolled Up Sidewalk Somewhere South Of Toledo, OH
- Pronouns
- Any/All
I'm nearly positive that we have called it Incubator in the past, either in conversation or over telepathy. I don't have time right now to go digging through canon, so that's where I'll leave it.
And even if we haven't, I'm not sure how much that could reveal. We don't even have to make up a lie, we could just say that we put it together from context clues: the soul gem looks like an egg, "Kyubey" is some sort of corruption of another word even if it works as a pun in Japanese, etc.
Or...
Why did you call me Incubator?
"I don't know, just came to me. Seemed appropriate."
We have retrograde amnesia and automatically knew what it was on sight. It's already suspicious as fuck.
Alternatively, we could call it "Number Nine," which also works as an obvious social snub, which is the goal. It won't care, but Bennouna will notice that we are professionally courteous and distinctly nothing more to the thing.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
Aren't Courtesy and Social Snub opposites of one another?
Giving people seemingly random nicknames isn't exactly courteous.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Pretty much just implying that we should keep holding her hand in a comforting way. Maybe stroke soothingly it with our thumb. Don't wanna micromanage the affection.
I'm not sure that playing footsie is going to be very soothing.Do hand holding, but with our feet instead of our hands. Our feet are out of sight, right?
I tried searching the story-only thread, but Firn uses "Incubator" in the narration a lot, so it was mostly false positives. Seems like the only times we said it out loud were in timestop or a privacy field.
Plus, everyone but Homura and Mami would be confused why we were calling it that, which would just derail the conversation even further.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Is Mami clasping our hand above or below the table? The text doesn't seem to specify. Whether or not Nadia can see it probably determines how much we can do without being obvious.
...what's the image from?Only in SV folks. :lol
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
A manga called Acaria, if I recall correctly.what's the image from?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Something to notice: Nadia's loaded with magic items and Mami doesn't seem to have really noticed.
That means we can do the same.
Just maybe less magic items than Nadia since our would have a diminute amount of Grief, which might be noticed with enough magic items.
That means we can do the same.
Just maybe less magic items than Nadia since our would have a diminute amount of Grief, which might be noticed with enough magic items.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Wow, it's obscure. Doesn't even have a TV Tropes page.
- Location
- Illinois
Hey @Muramasa? Can I prevail upon you for a full explanation of why you want to get rid of some of our grief? I'm pretty sure you've pointed to it being described very negatively by Firn's narration, but I'm not entirely certain I actually understand your case, and that can't be the full extent of it because of course it's going to be described negatively -- when has it not been?
Or maybe it's like someone calling you "Human". Or by a job title.
Who knows if Kyubey even has a personal name though, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's been protocol that we don't offload all our free floating grief on QB, only enough that what we have is no longer unwieldy. And the votes so far doesn't say giving all the grief, only some of it.
Not Mura, but this is probably relevant to your question:
This was last night, when we gave Homu a clear seed so she can sleep in timestop.
- Location
- Illinois
Yeah, I think this caused Mura to comment about it.
Karnewarrior
Leastmost of the Hanged Man Arcana
[x] Remain calm. Help Mami remain calm. Hold her hand if possible, but be professional about it.
[x] Tell Kyubey that we have some Grief to deliver to him. It's waiting up on the roof. He should head up there so we can give it to him. And after he does so, he should contact whatever his species considers an expert on the subject of grief and ask if there's a way to make our grief into a form that's more efficient for their conversion rates.
-[x] If he already knows one, then give the grief out in that form, unless it takes meditation, in which case we can feed him later.
-[x] While he goes up there, stay down here and remotely guide a couple seeds' worth of Grief into his back while we continue to talk to Nadia.
[x] If Nadia seems to realize that Kyubey makes Mami uncomfortable, let Mami decide how much she's willing to share about the reason why.
[x] Continue vote in abeyance.
[x] Tell Kyubey that we have some Grief to deliver to him. It's waiting up on the roof. He should head up there so we can give it to him. And after he does so, he should contact whatever his species considers an expert on the subject of grief and ask if there's a way to make our grief into a form that's more efficient for their conversion rates.
-[x] If he already knows one, then give the grief out in that form, unless it takes meditation, in which case we can feed him later.
-[x] While he goes up there, stay down here and remotely guide a couple seeds' worth of Grief into his back while we continue to talk to Nadia.
[x] If Nadia seems to realize that Kyubey makes Mami uncomfortable, let Mami decide how much she's willing to share about the reason why.
[x] Continue vote in abeyance.
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
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From now on we shall only refer to Kyubey as Timothy.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
We are the ones in control of how long it takes to feed him that two Seeds' worth of Grief. We can just make sure it takes the entire length of the conversation to finish.
Madou Sutegobana
Autocorrupt has been disabled.
- Location
- Twin Realms Mandala
We may only intend to let Kyuubey have some of our grief, but the way the vote informs Kyuubey of the grief he could legitimately assume we want him to vaccuum it all up.
It wouldn't even be a Kyuubeyism, it would be Sabrina's own fault this time!
It wouldn't even be a Kyuubeyism, it would be Sabrina's own fault this time!
Would offloading Grief on QB actually make him go away? I mean if the stuff is on the roof, won't he just send a duplicate body up there so he can still keep eavesdropping on us in the cafe?
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
We're the ones in control of the Grief. We can stop feeding him when we feel it's appropriate.
And if not... well, we can get more Grief. We need to make Mami a Clear Seed anyway.
Is now really the time to have this conversation? You're also giving away the fact that we know Kyubey is an alien and pretty much ensuring that we'll have to now explain that fact to everyone here except Homura. In a public place where we can't use the privacy field. In front of an MG we just met. This would be somewhat awkward.
He can almost certainly eavesdrop on us whether one of his bodies is visibly there or not. The point isn't to keep this conversation private, it's to get him to leave because his presence makes Mami uncomfortable.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Largely because the imagery of grief in the excess that we're carrying is becoming increasingly unsightly. Just because Firn has rarely touched upon the subject doesn't mean that it isn't becoming an issue.
Though I'm not necessarily for getting rid of it, if we can store it in a way that it isn't as much of an eye sore.