Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
When calling dibs, and adding teaming up with Homura for the final round, we could add how everyone should have a turn teaming up with Mami. Anything else would be unfair.
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The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
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That update was awesome. The fight scene was quite fantastically written.
Since my teenage years, I've been quite fond of the X-Wing novels by Aaron Allston. There's a move often used in the books where two X-Wings, each of which has a TIE Fighter on their tail, will fly at each other and fire on each other's pursuers. The move that Sabrina and Sayaka pulled at the end reminded me of that.
While I included the idea in my vote, I wasn't expecting Sayaka to actually be able to summon a shield. That's an awesome little bonus right there. Having that should help Sayaka a lot with her defense. I was also impressed by her lack of Leeroy Jenkins rushing. Seems like she might actually have learned something about caution after all.
Still, we didn't get much chance to see what Sayaka was doing during the fight, so we don't know if she's gotten better and watching her flanks or not. Guess we'll have to see what gets said about it in the feedback portion.
Vote suggestions:
-[ ] Hug Mami more. I call dibs on Mami this time!
--[ ] During the feedback process, probe for info on how Sayaka did regarding situational awareness, avoiding target fixation and checking for dangers in her blind spots before rushing ahead.
-[ ] If the feedback indicated that Sayaka still needs more work on the above topics, then making working on that a priority. Use the practice session to teach her how to clear corners safely. During the match, dedicate yourself to ambushing Sayaka from the sides or behind every time she goes past a corner or other potential hiding place without checking, until she learns better habits. Don't worry so much about actually scoring on her, just catching her off guard a few times should make the lesson sink in.
Since my teenage years, I've been quite fond of the X-Wing novels by Aaron Allston. There's a move often used in the books where two X-Wings, each of which has a TIE Fighter on their tail, will fly at each other and fire on each other's pursuers. The move that Sabrina and Sayaka pulled at the end reminded me of that.
While I included the idea in my vote, I wasn't expecting Sayaka to actually be able to summon a shield. That's an awesome little bonus right there. Having that should help Sayaka a lot with her defense. I was also impressed by her lack of Leeroy Jenkins rushing. Seems like she might actually have learned something about caution after all.
Still, we didn't get much chance to see what Sayaka was doing during the fight, so we don't know if she's gotten better and watching her flanks or not. Guess we'll have to see what gets said about it in the feedback portion.
Vote suggestions:
Switched between first and second person there. Makes it sounds like Mami noticed we could reshape our outfit, when she's never seen us do that.
[ ] Do you guys think we have time for another round or two?
-[ ] Hug Mami more. I call dibs on Mami this time!
-[ ] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[ ] During the feedback process, probe for info on how Sayaka did regarding situational awareness, avoiding target fixation and checking for dangers in her blind spots before rushing ahead.
[ ] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[ ] If the feedback indicated that Sayaka still needs more work on the above topics, then making working on that a priority. Use the practice session to teach her how to clear corners safely. During the match, dedicate yourself to ambushing Sayaka from the sides or behind every time she goes past a corner or other potential hiding place without checking, until she learns better habits. Don't worry so much about actually scoring on her, just catching her off guard a few times should make the lesson sink in.
It's more that Homura knows that we know that her relationship with Sayaka is, at best, "I tolerate your presence because Madoka likes having you around".
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[x] Hmm. Another round later, I think?
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
-[x] That shield is going to be pretty useful in the future, I can tell.
--[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
--[x] Actually, Homura, you have a shield. Any advice to Sayaka about using hers?
---[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, show her some cosplay.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
Sabrina can decide what to cosplay herself.
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
-[x] That shield is going to be pretty useful in the future, I can tell.
--[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
--[x] Actually, Homura, you have a shield. Any advice to Sayaka about using hers?
---[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, show her some cosplay.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
Sabrina can decide what to cosplay herself.
Didn't actually expect to land decisive hits on either of them, holding back or no.
Have you guys considered slightly experimenting here with minor magic. Stuff like Sayaka's shield or extending the length/reach of the hammer? Not like there's a better chance of doing that sort of stuff than a friendly spar.
Have you guys considered slightly experimenting here with minor magic. Stuff like Sayaka's shield or extending the length/reach of the hammer? Not like there's a better chance of doing that sort of stuff than a friendly spar.
bird_poison
Knowing their wrath, unfettered and raw
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I insist: boomerang hammers. They bank on our capacity to focus on several things at once, and among the grief stuff they can strike by surprise.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
That's exactly what happens when we vote.
Sparring against Sayaka is the best opportunity to try making a poleaxe out of our hammer. Maybe thin the hammer head if that affects the balance.
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The Narrator
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We can make a Lucerne hammer! (Thank you, D&D rule book, for your absurdly comprehensive list of nearly-identical polearms.)
I proposed trying this in the last vote, but we don't yet know if it works or not.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
No, seriously, we need to avoid your fight-to-dismemberment ratio exceeding 1:1.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
-[ ] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[ ] Admit you were probably a little too worried trying to keep track of everything going on all the time, which is OK when Mami's covering for you, but not when you split up like this. How did Sayaka do on the other hand? Did she keep track of her surroundings enough?
Actually, an idea: With a more dynamic team composition (melee+ranged), we should take this as an opportunity for Sayaka to experience being closer to a 'leading' and to a 'following' position.
How about:
[ ] Before next round, propose something:
-[ ] If possible, you want that when Sayaka teams up with Mami, for Mami to try and guid/follow Sayaka, like when we went on the Witch hunt. And when Sayaka teams up with Homura, that Homura set the pace instead, so Sayaka can learn what's to be on both sides of that.
Well, right now's the time to try.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We're gonna end up introducing Sayaka to Moe at some point, aren't we?
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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"...I wasn't..." Sayaka mutters to herself.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
More reason to show our appreciation for her teamwork skills.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
And now I tie with Krecart's post total!
Absolutely. Sayaka did damned good here.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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I believe I'm on record as supporting doing this as soon as possible after Asurano.
That...doesn't mean anything given that this still describes "Wish-construct baby conjured out of nowhere" and "Moe Anthropomorphism of what is basically a natural disaster."
Adding that I am 100% in favor of "Sabrina Tomoe" if we don't go with a V-name, and that imo Sabrina canonically is head-over-heels legitimately in love with Mami...but is holding off out of consideration for Mami's emotional health.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[x] Hmm. Another round later, I think?
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[X] Admit you kind of got distracted trying to keep track of everything, which works great when Mami's covering for you, but not so much when you split up like this. How did Sayaka do on the surrounding-awareness deparment?
-[X] That shield might prove useful, even in high speed meguca combat.
--[x] Actually, Homura, you have a shield. Any advice to Sayaka about using hers?
[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
-[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, try cosplaying as Shinki, from Touhou.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[X] Before starting, try making your hammer into a poleaxe. A lucerne, maybe? Keep it only if you feel you can handle it well.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[X] Admit you kind of got distracted trying to keep track of everything, which works great when Mami's covering for you, but not so much when you split up like this. How did Sayaka do on the surrounding-awareness deparment?
-[X] That shield might prove useful, even in high speed meguca combat.
--[x] Actually, Homura, you have a shield. Any advice to Sayaka about using hers?
[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
-[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, try cosplaying as Shinki, from Touhou.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[X] Before starting, try making your hammer into a poleaxe. A lucerne, maybe? Keep it only if you feel you can handle it well.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
Ah, so it was
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Fiction always has some serious duration variation going on and everything takes exactly as long asthe author wishes it to take. There have to be thousands of hour long meetings that consist of about five sentences.
That said I have to agree that the fight didn't feel like it took fifteen minutes, especially compared to the Sendai ambush where a lot of things have happened in the span of a few seconds. Was there a lot of hiding and searching that has been glossed over? Maybe if all the talk beforehand is taken into account.
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Appletank
Acquire Cheese
Maybe we are the Moe Anthropomorphization of a Tornado that attacked a hammer shop?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We can't be that. We're not exactly moe now, are we?
[Q] Ask Mami if you're moe.
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Hmm. Since we're discussing modifying outfits and weapons anyway, should we prod Sayaka towards swordsplosions? They are canonical, and I think she'd enjoy it.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Maaaaaybe? Not something to use for training, but aside from it.
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[x] Hmm. Another round later, I think?
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[X] Admit you kind of got distracted trying to keep track of everything, which works great when Mami's covering for you, but not so much when you split up like this. How did Sayaka do on the surrounding-awareness deparment?
-[X] That shield might prove useful, even in high speed meguca combat.
[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
-[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, try cosplaying as Shinki, from Touhou.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[X] Before starting, try making your hammer into a poleaxe. A lucerne, maybe? Keep it only if you feel you can handle it well.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
I'm removing the bit about asking Homura about shield advice, because any techniques she has beyond the basic 'a shield can block attacks' probably won't help Sayaka, because their shields different in almost every way they can be.
-[x] Hug Mami more. "Dibs on Mami!"
--[x] And if we still have time after that, one more with you and Sayaka against me and Homura? That way we'll go through every possible combination.
[x] But first... unlatch from Mami to give Sayaka a handshake and thank her for being such a good teammate. Excellent teamwork and communication, and she set up a couple of neat combination attacks.
-[x] How did we do? Homura, Mami, your thoughts?
--[X] Admit you kind of got distracted trying to keep track of everything, which works great when Mami's covering for you, but not so much when you split up like this. How did Sayaka do on the surrounding-awareness deparment?
-[X] That shield might prove useful, even in high speed meguca combat.
[x] Ask Mami about magic weapons and outfits. Is it just a matter of willpower, or...? How customizable are they for combat? I noticed I can reshape my outfit with a bit of concentration - are weapons the same way?
-[x] If Sayaka asks about the outfit reshaping thing, try cosplaying as Shinki, from Touhou.
[x] Is there anything we should work on before we start the next round?
-[x] If Mami or Homura have suggestions, work on them. If they don't, go right into it.
--[X] Before starting, try making your hammer into a poleaxe. A lucerne, maybe? Keep it only if you feel you can handle it well.
--[x] Try and ambush Sayaka a couple of times, to get her to improve her situational awareness.
I'm removing the bit about asking Homura about shield advice, because any techniques she has beyond the basic 'a shield can block attacks' probably won't help Sayaka, because their shields different in almost every way they can be.
Wonder what expert level powers Sayaka can develop, like can she save copied powers forever, or steal powers, power amplify, copy weapons like Scarlett in RWBY, etc.
Hey, since her wish is to help people, does that mean she is a great maid now? Or tutor?
"Sayaka, help me with my math homework. "
"....oh this is easy. Just apply this Quantum equation and apply these proofs... Wait what. "
Hey, since her wish is to help people, does that mean she is a great maid now? Or tutor?
"Sayaka, help me with my math homework. "
"....oh this is easy. Just apply this Quantum equation and apply these proofs... Wait what. "