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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Sabrina: "Hey, Madoka! Are you listening? Madoka... Earth to Madoka! Homu, what's wrong with her?"
Madoka: "I can wish for the best chair?"
RexHeller
Title Incoming. Please Hold.
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Personally, if this was her wish, I'd let her do it.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[X] Magical Girls look strong from the outside, but on the inside, we're breaking apart. It's the isolation that gets us, the double life, it's hard to stay sane, when half your life is... stress and secrecy.
[X] Kyuubey's manipulations, really.
[X] It's why we need good friends, first and foremost. So we don't forget there's more to our lives, to ourselves, than the fight. We need people to remind us that we're still human.
[X] Actually, about that, there's something I want to ask of you, personally.
-[X] Sometimes I'm... quick to treat people like problems, and forget that they're people. I lose perspective, and hurt people. Would it be OK if I could talk with you about my... social problems? I think you have the right perspective, and that's far more important than any magic trick I can pull.
[X] That aside, there's something specifically about you that's... dangerous.
-[X] First, you need to understand Kyuubey's motivation. It's not about helping people. In fact, it gets... a reward with every contracted Magical Girl, it gets energy. it's why it's here. It wants to use our Magical Potential in order to get energy for its own purposes.
-[X] And you, Madoka, have a magical potential so big, it will destroy the Earth. And probably more than that. If Kyuubey could feel emotions, it would be anxious. Anxiously waiting the moment it can write off our Solar System for profit.
-[X] I'm sorry, Madoka. But beyond how we would feel about it, beyond how we would hate to see your Soul mutilated into a rock, you can't make a contract. Your power... would be uncontainable.
Megucas need help badly.
Ask Madoka for help with social.
Kyuubey's energy profits and PotentialBomb.
[X] Kyuubey's manipulations, really.
[X] It's why we need good friends, first and foremost. So we don't forget there's more to our lives, to ourselves, than the fight. We need people to remind us that we're still human.
[X] Actually, about that, there's something I want to ask of you, personally.
-[X] Sometimes I'm... quick to treat people like problems, and forget that they're people. I lose perspective, and hurt people. Would it be OK if I could talk with you about my... social problems? I think you have the right perspective, and that's far more important than any magic trick I can pull.
[X] That aside, there's something specifically about you that's... dangerous.
-[X] First, you need to understand Kyuubey's motivation. It's not about helping people. In fact, it gets... a reward with every contracted Magical Girl, it gets energy. it's why it's here. It wants to use our Magical Potential in order to get energy for its own purposes.
-[X] And you, Madoka, have a magical potential so big, it will destroy the Earth. And probably more than that. If Kyuubey could feel emotions, it would be anxious. Anxiously waiting the moment it can write off our Solar System for profit.
-[X] I'm sorry, Madoka. But beyond how we would feel about it, beyond how we would hate to see your Soul mutilated into a rock, you can't make a contract. Your power... would be uncontainable.
Megucas need help badly.
Ask Madoka for help with social.
Kyuubey's energy profits and PotentialBomb.
I'm not certain if that will scare her away from contracting or get her to start thinking of loopholes.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Same. I'm hoping somebody else will.
There's just about no certainties when dealing with Madoka.
Feel Homura's pain.
I think avoiding the Madokontract is more about continuously doing good, looking like we don't need help on the Magical side of things.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
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We basically have to convince her that she can help us more as a normal human and that contracting will only hurt us. Her intentions are good, but the actions and consequences...
If we give up on Madoka, then we're no better than a multi - looping Homura...
*sigh* How did SQ Sayaka do it?
If we give up on Madoka, then we're no better than a multi - looping Homura...
*sigh* How did SQ Sayaka do it?
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Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
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We basically had to kill Walpurgisnatch ourselves, and continuously support her for the entirety of the quest. It was worth it in the end though.(I was not a participant, but I have read it)
I'd like to ask people building the vote plans to give Madoka some context as the first action because:
*cough* Sorry. But yeah, context. And miscommunication kills, right?
She clearly has no fucking clue what's going on, what the hell we're talking about, and will only get confused even more. ("Kyubey, I wish I know what the actual fuck is going on!"). Like, is someone dying? Are magical girls going to take over the world and only she can stop them? Is all of this magi shit and transformation sequences just a passing phase for many teen and pre-teen girls? Is Hitomi a Yakuza princess? CAN SHE REALLY GET THE BEST CHAIR(S) WITH HER WISH?!
*cough* Sorry. But yeah, context. And miscommunication kills, right?
GiftOfLove
From the Heart
Madoka is one of those girls who feels really insecure about her own worth. She hangs out with amazing and talented people, and in her heart thinks things like 'I want to be cool, too!' Or 'Everyone is so amazing, but I'm just me.'
Have you guys considered mentioning that we have asked a Seer what would happen if Madoka made a contract? Technically true. Then you can finally, maybe get her to listen when you tell her that her power will be so strong that it will burn her and the entire world up in one shot.
She's not without value! Just that being a Magical Girl is dangerous for everyone, and she should contribute in another way. Because contracting does not help anyone. It means killing everyone. Also that Kyuubey doesn't care about that. He just wants to eat her grief.
This is the only real way I can see to 100% stop Madoka. It could potentially hurt her a little, but there you go.
Have you guys considered mentioning that we have asked a Seer what would happen if Madoka made a contract? Technically true. Then you can finally, maybe get her to listen when you tell her that her power will be so strong that it will burn her and the entire world up in one shot.
She's not without value! Just that being a Magical Girl is dangerous for everyone, and she should contribute in another way. Because contracting does not help anyone. It means killing everyone. Also that Kyuubey doesn't care about that. He just wants to eat her grief.
This is the only real way I can see to 100% stop Madoka. It could potentially hurt her a little, but there you go.
Okay, some possible general points we can bring up as an explanation.
1.) Sayaka had already kind of blindsided us by making a contract and we want to make sure she doesn't.
2.) Explain that things are going to get really rough shortly in the future (Walpurgis), so she'll likely be tempted to make a contract but she mustn't. Promise to explain more thoroughly later.
3.) Just tell her how being a meguca just really sucks. Maybe explain a bit of Mami's circumstance. How she was completely miserable until she met everyone. Only people who don't really have any other choice should make the contract, and even then they might end up regretting it anyway. Maybe for added effect, ask Homura how many magical girls she has met or come across and how many of them were actually better off for it.
4.) There really isn't much that she can offer us as a magical girl that she can't otherwise. Well there's additional power, but we already have more than enough of that.
Not really sure about some of these, but we really need to at least tell her something instead of more vague warnings. From what she knows, it makes no sense how her potential could threaten the world. She's just going to probably want to know why.
1.) Sayaka had already kind of blindsided us by making a contract and we want to make sure she doesn't.
2.) Explain that things are going to get really rough shortly in the future (Walpurgis), so she'll likely be tempted to make a contract but she mustn't. Promise to explain more thoroughly later.
3.) Just tell her how being a meguca just really sucks. Maybe explain a bit of Mami's circumstance. How she was completely miserable until she met everyone. Only people who don't really have any other choice should make the contract, and even then they might end up regretting it anyway. Maybe for added effect, ask Homura how many magical girls she has met or come across and how many of them were actually better off for it.
4.) There really isn't much that she can offer us as a magical girl that she can't otherwise. Well there's additional power, but we already have more than enough of that.
Not really sure about some of these, but we really need to at least tell her something instead of more vague warnings. From what she knows, it makes no sense how her potential could threaten the world. She's just going to probably want to know why.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
So, start with something like:
[] I'm sorry. I'm just worried. With Sayaka having contracted now... I can see her reasons, but her life's pretty much gonna suck now, you know?
I am admittedly a paranoid idiot but that line
Or rather contract bait.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I guess.I am admittedly a paranoid idiot but that line
Or rather contract bait.
Maybe say we were hoping to stop anybody else from contracting and we're worried because we just failed?
We could also say it straight and tell her we're worried she might contract too. It'll also explain why Homura got deathly serious just a moment ago about her contracting. Maybe acknowledge that her desire to help is what got us really worried, which reached its peak when Sayaka made a wish.
Higure
Witch of Faith
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- The Golden Land
The problem with preventing a Madowish is that Ascension is the natural development path for her. She has no worldly ambitions, is scarily selfless, and is clever enough to break the system via rules lawyering.
The only way to save her, in the long run, is to eliminate the need for her to Contract...and even that might fail, considering her natural affinity for life as a magical girl.
Honestly, our best chance for a good end is to break the system before she Contracts, thus allowing her to become a Puella Magus (not a deity) without risking her sudden death/Witch Out.
Maybe if we cooperated with her...she Wishes for the salvation of all Witches (but not with her own two hands), and we seal the resulting Grief into our Barrier before it can induce the Gretchen transformation. Homura wouldn't like the "Magical Girl" bit, but it would allow her to spend the rest of her days with a living, virtually unstoppable, potentially immortal Madoka...which is definitely the best option she's gotten so far.
The only way to save her, in the long run, is to eliminate the need for her to Contract...and even that might fail, considering her natural affinity for life as a magical girl.
Honestly, our best chance for a good end is to break the system before she Contracts, thus allowing her to become a Puella Magus (not a deity) without risking her sudden death/Witch Out.
Maybe if we cooperated with her...she Wishes for the salvation of all Witches (but not with her own two hands), and we seal the resulting Grief into our Barrier before it can induce the Gretchen transformation. Homura wouldn't like the "Magical Girl" bit, but it would allow her to spend the rest of her days with a living, virtually unstoppable, potentially immortal Madoka...which is definitely the best option she's gotten so far.
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
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Well, this is unfortunately correct, but what I would really like to have happen is that we pull something similar to how Sayaka quest ended, and make sure she does not contract at all. It's a faint hope yes, but not a hope that I am going to give up on.
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I have no idea how we're going to accomplish that though. We're not likely to break it before Walpurgisnacht comes along, and that is usually what causes her to contract if nothing else does.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
That's because Walpurgisnacht wins.
If nothing else, it's really good that our objectives alingn, in that preventing Madokontract might just go hand in hand with defeating Walpurgisnacht. We want to do both; doing one should accomplish the other.
Xexilf
Oblivion Sempiternum Daemonis
The second possibility would be to waste her wish on keeping herself safe, like flatly wishing for immortality or something similiar.
Of course thats problematic for other reasons, namely if she can afford a selfish wish, shes unlikely to have been pushed to the point of having to contract anyway.
Of course thats problematic for other reasons, namely if she can afford a selfish wish, shes unlikely to have been pushed to the point of having to contract anyway.
Muramasa
Best Girl
[x] Make sure there's no one else overhearing. Lower your voice.
[x] Sayaka and her family were attacked by a witch last night.
-[x] No one was hurt. I mean, you've seen Sayaka already but her parents are okay too, but it was still a big scare for her.
-[x] And it was one more thing to pile on on a girl who felt helpless, indebted, alone and cornered, with only one way out that she could see... And Kyubey was there to push her over the edge. And that was that. Sayaka Miki became a magical girl.
[x] I failed her. I saw the signs. I meant to talk to her, but I vastly underestimated her pain. I thought she'd be... well, not okay but better if she was with her family. I left when I should've stayed. When I finally did talk to her, it was just too little, too late.
[x] And you too. I should've told you sooner. Sorry... Please forgive me.
[x] Things like this are why it's so important to have strong emotional support. Sayaka contracted and took on a life of hardship because she believed it was the only way out. It's not true but I wasn't there to show her that...
[x] But we can be there to support her now. Madoka. Sayaka needs your help. Not as another Puella Magi, but as her best friend who cares about her. You can do so much more than you think, just by being who you are. My powers can help her through some of it, and there's no doubt in my mind Mami could make Sayaka into a great magical girl, but there is no substitute for having a good friend, someone who truly cares for you, that you can share your problems with. Sometimes, just being there for someone is the best thing in the world.
[x] And that goes for you too Madoka. If you're ever feeling lost or cornered or pressured. If you can only see one way out. Please talk to me. Talk to Homura, talk to Mami, or someone. If it's Homura, she can be there for you in an instant. That's her power. Not only that but she can bring anyone else you need. Contracting is never the only way out. You should never have to feel that way.
[x] My friends are precious to me. I don't want them to be tricked or pressured into a life of fighting. I don't want them to suffer or feel alone and isolated. I only want the best for them. And that includes you too Madoka. I want the best for you too.
[x] I want all our friends to know and remember that. That we're there for each other always and when we need it the most. I think that would be wonderful. That's something you can do Madoka. I'm sure of it. It won't be easy. We all need to do our part, but I can't think of anyone better suited for the task. My friend, with the biggest heart, who cares for everyone.
[x] Sayaka and her family were attacked by a witch last night.
-[x] No one was hurt. I mean, you've seen Sayaka already but her parents are okay too, but it was still a big scare for her.
-[x] And it was one more thing to pile on on a girl who felt helpless, indebted, alone and cornered, with only one way out that she could see... And Kyubey was there to push her over the edge. And that was that. Sayaka Miki became a magical girl.
[x] I failed her. I saw the signs. I meant to talk to her, but I vastly underestimated her pain. I thought she'd be... well, not okay but better if she was with her family. I left when I should've stayed. When I finally did talk to her, it was just too little, too late.
[x] And you too. I should've told you sooner. Sorry... Please forgive me.
[x] Things like this are why it's so important to have strong emotional support. Sayaka contracted and took on a life of hardship because she believed it was the only way out. It's not true but I wasn't there to show her that...
[x] But we can be there to support her now. Madoka. Sayaka needs your help. Not as another Puella Magi, but as her best friend who cares about her. You can do so much more than you think, just by being who you are. My powers can help her through some of it, and there's no doubt in my mind Mami could make Sayaka into a great magical girl, but there is no substitute for having a good friend, someone who truly cares for you, that you can share your problems with. Sometimes, just being there for someone is the best thing in the world.
[x] And that goes for you too Madoka. If you're ever feeling lost or cornered or pressured. If you can only see one way out. Please talk to me. Talk to Homura, talk to Mami, or someone. If it's Homura, she can be there for you in an instant. That's her power. Not only that but she can bring anyone else you need. Contracting is never the only way out. You should never have to feel that way.
[x] My friends are precious to me. I don't want them to be tricked or pressured into a life of fighting. I don't want them to suffer or feel alone and isolated. I only want the best for them. And that includes you too Madoka. I want the best for you too.
[x] I want all our friends to know and remember that. That we're there for each other always and when we need it the most. I think that would be wonderful. That's something you can do Madoka. I'm sure of it. It won't be easy. We all need to do our part, but I can't think of anyone better suited for the task. My friend, with the biggest heart, who cares for everyone.
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noahgab1133
Fluffy?
[X] Muramasa
we should really tell her some of the truth of a contract, and witches.
we should really tell her some of the truth of a contract, and witches.