A lot of the things that come out of Sabrina's actual mouth are of dubious factual basis. That's not an argument.
 
Sabrina: You know, I think nice red frames would work really well.
I was about to say they're red half-frames, but on googling a reference image... they seem to occupy some quantum space between full frames and half frames.

Also, someone is selling them for cosplay purposes (both of Homura and someone called Rize Kamishiro) because of course they are.
 
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I'd advise against that. It's a very overused in-joke that has no real factual basis.
It is an affectionate joke more than most of the other things it is, so I think I half agree with you; we could say it teasingly, but using it seriously would cause Madokafainting, so we should reserve its srs use for our head-thread.
 
No, they are very consistently drawn with a partial top frame. They're not consistently drawn with a bridge over her nose, so I'm assuming that means they're actually intended to have full frames and this part of the frame is just very thin and not visible from a front angle, but that spoils the fun.

More likely, they're intended to have full frames, but ANIME EYES mustn't be obstructed.
 
I'd advise against that. It's a very overused in-joke that has no real factual basis.

I wouldn't quite say that.
If (big if) we are, in part, a product of a hilarious interaction between Madoka's wish and Homura's time looping, a weird result of both of their magics interacting, then in some weird respect, we could be considered their "magic" "child".

Plus, it's funny (if a bit overused). :D
 
If we're even having a disagreement with Madoka, we can go all: (lightheadted) "Well, OK, mooooooom."

... See if Homura reacts.

Other than that, I don't see us taking the mom thing outside Sabrina's head.
 
Well, yeah, it wouldn't be a good idea to just say that out of the blue. But, if we ever give full meta disclosure about our origins, THEN it could be a nice tease.

Assuming Homura doesn't go murderface. Or full Satan. That'd be bad. Maybe just Momdoka then.
 
This mortal coil pt. 5
Not much of a choice there. "Of course," you respond. You give her a quick smile, before turning to Mami. You slip your arm around her in another one armed hug. "We'll be just a few minutes, OK?"

"Alright," she says, returning the smile. She's obviously curious, but she doesn't ask.

You stand, and the three of you head around the corner of the stairwell to talk away from the others. You turn around, finding Madoka looking at you, faint confusion on her face while Homura hovers protectively beside the other girl.

You give Homura a quick smile. Trust me.

She nods fractionally, her violet eyes never leaving yours.

"A-ah, Sabrina? Homura?" Madoka asks, looking between the two of you. "What's this about?"

Homura blinks slowly, tilting her head at you, and Madoka obligingly turns to you, her eyes worried.

A deep breath, and you focus on Madoka. "Madoka...you're probably one of the most important people here, honestly," you say, choosing your words with care. Out of the corner of your eye, you see Homura stiffen. "And, well, I... I want to ask for your help with something."

"I- ah? W-what can I do?" Madoka asks, voice tremulous.

"More than you know," you say, trying to project confidence. The best lie is one that's true. She can do so much more than she knows. "For us magical girls... the most important thing is really to be able to talk about our problems."

"I... Oh. But you're so strong," Madoka says.

You shake your head, smiling sadly. "I know it doesn't feel like much. But it is. To have someone who we can trust, who can keep their head on straight. And I do mean we, Madoka, myself included. It's a lot. It's..." A wave of the hand, as you search for the words. "There are always girls to help fight, but what's rarer, what we need is a good person who cares about us."

"I... I don't understand," Madoka says. "I-is something wrong? I- of course I'll be your friend, Sabrina, and you, Homura. And Sayaka and Mami!"

"Um," you say, mind skidding to a halt as you frantically back up on your speech. "No, Nothing's wrong, per se, just... I'm getting kind of stressed, and I'm worried about you."

"Worried about me?" Madoka asks, pink eyes huge and worried. "A-ah... Nothing's happened to me. Not like Sayaka or you or H-homura or Mami."

"We don't want you to make a contract," Homura says bluntly.

"I-I wasn't thinking about it!" Madoka protests weakly, the little hitch in her throat giving voice to the lie.

Homura seizes the pinkette by the shoulders, spinning Madoka to face her. "Madoka, please. It's not worth it. Nothing's worth you making a contract."

"H-Homura?" Madoka stammers.

"Just... please, don't make a contract," Homura says, quiet despair in her voice. You keep an eye on her Soul Gem - nothing too bad.

"W-what's wrong?" Madoka asks, seeming to sag in on herself. "I- I won't. I won't make a contract, b-but what's wrong?"

"Nothing, not really," you say, trying to reassure her. You step forward, laying a gentle hand on Madoka's shoulder. "Madoka... yeah. We are concerned about you making a contract, Sayaka notwithstanding. It's not worth it, and... there's so much more that we need other than a contract."

"Ah... OK," Madoka says, sounding more confused than anything, what with Homura still clutching at her shoulders in a death grip, head bowed.

You sigh again. "Madoka, you're a good person, and a good friend. Sayaka, Homura, Mami... me. We need someone like you, to keep our heads on straight." You pause, as you hear what you just said.

... in your defense, you hadn't intended the pun.

And Charlotte's long gone, anyway.

"But yeah," you say, shaking your head. "Sometimes... it's easy to lose perspective, to think that there isn't anythng we can do, or that there aren't people who care about us."

"That's not true!" Madoka protests, interrupting you. "I care about everyone!"

Yeah. There's the problem isn't it?

"I know," you say. "And that's so very much, Madoka."

"B-but," Madoka stutters, soft pink eyes darting from Homura to you, and then back again. "I- I don't- what's happening, in the first place?"

[] Write-in

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Hmmm.
 
OK, now is the time for it.

"I- I don't- what's happening, in the first place?"


So, shall we go over how Kyuubey really goes about killing megucas by way of isolation, and how that's far more lethal than Witches, and stuff?
 
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Homura seizes the pinkette by the shoulders, spinning Madoka to face her. "Madoka, please. It's not worth it. Nothing's worth you making a contract."

"Nothing, not really," you say, trying to reassure her. You step forward, laying a gentle hand on Madoka's shoulder. "Madoka... yeah. We are concerned about you making a contract, Sayaka notwithstanding. It's not worth it, and... there's so much more that we need other than a contract."

Poor Madoka getting pulled apart by these lunatics.
 
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For reference, Sereg's edited version of my edited version of Godwinson's previous vote that was to go along with the vote previous to that:

First part was about how Kyuubey manipulates everything in order to kill megucas.

Second part, Madoka's potential and how Kyuubey only really cares about energy and would totally destroy the World for that sweet energy bonus.

Third part was asking Madoka for help, personally, as someone we can talk to about our people problems.
[X] Try to give Homura 'telepathic smile'. "Of course." Take Madoka and Homura aside.
[X] If Homura indicates that she wants timestop, allow it
[X] Madoka. First of all, I want to say... well, there's quite a few things I can't say. Harmful knowledge, or just things are not mine to tell. What I can say is that, in my head, you might just be the most important person in here.
[X] I, we, need you, now more than ever, what with Sayaka...
[X] Look, for Magical Girls, you know what's done to our Souls. That seems bad enough, doesn't it? It's far from the worst thing Kyuubey does to us.
-[X] Explain how Kyuubey keeps magic secret, and manipulates human media and culture in order to make Magical Girls isolate themselves, lose the normality of their lives that keeps them sane, and basically make them kill themselves, if they don't get killed first.
[X] Ask Madoka to simply keep being the amazing friend she's been. She really helps keep everybody from falling apart.

[X] There's more.
-[X] Explain Kyuubey's motivation: Energy, and that he harvests it from contracted girls
-[X] And Madoka, Kyuubey's got its eye on you. It wants you to contract because it knows... your magical potential is terrifying. It's... Earthshattering, at least. You wishing would destroy out World, and maybe more than that.
--[x] And it's going to cause that kind of damage no matter what you wish for or how little you want to cause that devastation
-[X] Kyuubey is ready to write off our planet, and our Solar System even, in order to get that energy. That's about the long and short of it.
--[x] If Homura is worried about the reveals of Madoka's potential, inform her that Madoka knowing means that it's safer now.

[X] And... this is something of a personal request. I have a problem.
-[X] You heard my Wish. I Wished hoping I could help Magical Girls, specially those close to me.
-[X] And it works pretty well... on the Magical side of things. The real, underlying issue, well, we pretty much suck at helping that.
-[X] We're too quick to see people as problems, and forget that they are people.
-[X] And I'm hoping you can help me with that. I'm not asking you to psychoanalize anybody, or to have all the answers, but would it be OK to talk with you some times...? I feel you're the only one who has the right... perspective. I think you can help me, all of us, more than you know, just being who you are.
-[x] And magical girls really need nonmagical friends to confide in. It's dangerous for us not to.
[x] If, at any time, Madoka seems worried, reasure her that everything will be fine as long as she doesn't contract
[x] Reasure Homura if she gets worried as well
[x] Inform her that spreading around information about her potential is probably not safe.
 
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I suggest convincing Homura to tell everything about her circumstances...
 
How much does madoka know right now?
I think maybe lich and witchbombing her, esspecially the latter, with emphasis on "any good your wish does will come back to haunt the world". She has massive potential, if if she defeats walpurgis only to become something worse noone is helped. Maybe be blunt, your witch is what destroy the world.
Explaining homuras circumstance could also help.
 
Done.
witchbombing her, esspecially the latter, with emphasis on "any good your wish does will come back to haunt the world". She has massive potential, if if she defeats walpurgis only to become something worse noone is helped. Maybe be blunt, your witch is what destroy the world.
Witchbombing her puts her on the path to Ascension and also makes it harder to keep from witchbombing Mami.

A more general warning, maybe along the lines of "you have enough power to destroy the world and that power won't go away if you make what seems like a safe wish", might be an okay middle ground?
Explaining homuras circumstance could also help.
With you there, but that's Homura's perogative.
 
How much does madoka know right now?
I think maybe lich and witchbombing her, esspecially the latter, with emphasis on "any good your wish does will come back to haunt the world". She has massive potential, if if she defeats walpurgis only to become something worse noone is helped. Maybe be blunt, your witch is what destroy the world.
Eplaining homuras circumstance could also help.
I think the Witchbomb would push her towards contracting for the sake of everybody else. Like in canon, she'll just find a way to rules-lawyer her way into a good Wish.

Tentative wall of vote.

[] Look, Madoka... We, Magical Girls, seem strong, from the outside, don't we? You know what's done to our Souls, and you know we need to fight in order to survive. That's... harsh, and we deal with it. But it's not without price... and it's not the worst Kyuubey does to us.
-[] The worst part... is the isolation. The loneliness, you could say. Keeping everything magic a secret, despite that being half our lives... Not being able to do everything a normal person needs to do... because of course we need to spend half our lives fighting...
-[] Do you know Kyuubey manipulates human media and culture, with things as silly sounding as Magical Girl shows, in order to make its potential... contractees believe they should keep magic secret, live double lives, that ultimately leads them to kill themselves out of sheer stress?
[] You, Madoka. You keep us sane. Keep us away from the trap of the magic life; it's the fact that you care so much that makes you so important to us. There's plenty of desperate girls to give up their lives for the fight. There's not enough good friends to keep everybody grounded, happy.

[] ...There's more.
-[] Eplain Kyuubey's motivation: Energy, and that he harvests it from contracted girls.
-[] How Kyuubey wants Madoka to contract because of her earthshattering potential. Kyuubey would happily write off the Solar System for that.
-[] It's strange, but Madoka simply has so much magical potential that her power would be... uncontainable. Devastating. Sorry, Madoka.

[] And... a personal request. I have a problem.
-[] She heard our Wish, she knows we want to help Magical Girls, specially those close to us. That's working pretty well on the magical side of things, but... the real issue, people, that we're failling pretty hard at.
-[] We're too quick to see people as problems, and forget that they are people.
-[] And we're hoping she can help us with that. We're not asking her to psychoanalize anybody, or to have all the answers, but would it be OK to talk with her some times...? We feel she's the only one who has the right... perspective. We think she can help us, all of us, more than she know, just being who she is.
-[] And magical girls really need nonmagical friends to confide in. It's dangerous for us not to.
[] If, at any time, Madoka seems worried, reasure her that everything will be fine as long as she doesn't contract
[] Reasure Homura if she gets worried as well
[] Inform her that spreading around information about her potential is probably not safe.
 
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