Homura has to be rich. Ask her for money.

All the lotto tickets, in 34 different countries, under 103 different variations of Homura's name.

Sabrina: Yo, Homu, I need some cash.
Homura: Why?
Sabrina: It's all part of the plan to save Madoka from contracting.
Homura: *pulls up in a mining truck full of cash* Do you need more?
 
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We can get lotto ticket numbers from the future too, you know.
edit: For the April 5, 2011 MegaMillions (picking April 5 as today's date as more likely, since when we first met Homu, she'd already transferred in on the 25th) the numbers were 1, 19, 20, 31, 36, Mega: 9, Megaplier: 2
 
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We can get lotto ticket numbers from the future too, you know.
You know, that's been something I was wondering about. Would lotto numbers stay constant despite changes in the time loop? Would the flapping of the butterflies of our passage be enough to change the numbers? Supposedly it would only take a small difference in circumstances to get completely different numbers, but surely we can't have been so influential to effect, for example, the American lottery all the way from Mitikihara.

I'm curious.
 
The way things are going, I think the Walpurgis fight is going to be an army of meguca with unlimited mana stomping a witch to the tune of Yackety Sax. Ignoring the likelihood of Mysterious Feathers fucking things up.
And Sayaka contracts, wishing for the power to strike us down for our crimes! Bad End. :p
I've only caught up using the story-only thread, so I don't quite know yet what our interpretation of those 'mysterious feathers' is yet. What is our current theory?

The only entity I can think of with that kind of power and description would be Akuma Homura. And, well, I don't know enough about Rebellion to make any solid judgement on what she did at the end of Rebellion. All I know is that she apparently reset everything. Again, which means she could possibly exist if some strange circumstances happened between the end of Rebellion and now to cause the whole cycle to repeat itself. Full Circle, so to speak.
 
That brings up an interesting point- we should go on Wikipedia and see whether various events match our OOC knowledge database: if they do, we have a useful research tool, but if it's an alternate continuity with different politicians and such, we should find out now to not embarrass ourselves.
Somebody pull up the news from 'today' and compare it to the in-universe news.

EDIT: Compare the Wall Street Journal articles and see if they're notably different.
 
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I've only caught up using the story-only thread, so I don't quite know yet what our interpretation of those 'mysterious feathers' is yet. What is our current theory?

The only entity I can think of with that kind of power and description would be Akuma Homura. And, well, I don't know enough about Rebellion to make any solid judgement on what she did at the end of Rebellion. All I know is that she apparently reset everything. Again, which means she could possibly exist if some strange circumstances happened between the end of Rebellion and now to cause the whole cycle to repeat itself. Full Circle, so to speak.
Other theories include them being the actions of our own witch in the futures where we fail, them being narratively necessary to reconcile a quest-based character with a precognitive ally without instantly winning or some people have said it might be some kind of precog blocking grief defence we must eventually invent.

We're really not too sure though. We generally just panic whenever it comes up.
 
I've only caught up using the story-only thread, so I don't quite know yet what our interpretation of those 'mysterious feathers' is yet. What is our current theory?

The only entity I can think of with that kind of power and description would be Akuma Homura. And, well, I don't know enough about Rebellion to make any solid judgement on what she did at the end of Rebellion. All I know is that she apparently reset everything. Again, which means she could possibly exist if some strange circumstances happened between the end of Rebellion and now to cause the whole cycle to repeat itself. Full Circle, so to speak.
Suffice to say Akuma Homura would be BAD NEWS on a Kriemhild Gretchen level. We've also been getting hints that both her and Madokami are involved in events somehow, as retrocausal nigh-omnipotent sapient Concepts are wont to do.
 
Really, the main reason I suspect Akuma Homura is because Oriko doesn't want to discuss such things when Homura is in earshot. However, we have yet to get an actual goal for what Akuma Homura would want, other than keeping Madoka safe. Which on the surface level is something we can get behind.

We need more information.
 
[x] Jackercracks.

A little worried that our "speech" to Oriko will feel like further admonishment rather than an encouragement to refocus how she wants to help.

Not sure how to fix this though, but that might need some tweaking about how we approach it, to make it clear what our goals for this conversation is.

I will likely switch votes if a vote with a cleaned up portion of that section comes along.
 
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The idea is to use those methods and goals to get her motivated, not to harangue her about them. Ya'know, get her to believe in a grand ideal that coincidentally requires Sabrinas continued existence to fulfil. Proper allies of ideals instead of allies of convenience.

Her dad's at work right now isn't he? And she's at school. I figured it would be rude to call/we'd not get through.

It's a clumsy attempt to convince her of something that she probably doesn't even object to. Trying to make some grand point out of nothing.

We want buy-in? Start with asking her how we can help her and with what, and work out from there. No need to Sabrina Speech at her.

I realize you're trying to address her personal issues as brought up in earlier discussion, but much like Homura or Mami, we have to take things slowly and tactfully.


Nagisa's uncle has shown willingness to use texts while at work. Which is what I've suggested.
 
i'd suggest arranging a meeting with the pleiades saints, since they are also researching ways to break the system.

As for money, lets ask to go with homura next time she goes batmaning the local gangs

edit: we may even get to break some legs like another hammer wielding girl
 
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-[] Talk about eventual possibility of the Meguca Hotel being a thing. Now that Sabrina's here, there's no more reason girls have to fight than normal people. We can break the system.
--[] Oriko does want to help people, it's just her methods were wrong. Explain we're offering better methods.
--[] Oriko cares about her legacy, what better legacy than making life better for all magical girls?
The parts in red don't add anything, I think. Oriko's pretty much fully compliant to our plans at the moment, she does regret her actions and wants to help.

Ninja'd.
 
I think it is way, way too early to be considering the meguca hotel. I don't have time to come up with a vote at the moment, but we really don't have the time to be doing that just yet. Obviously we'll be accepting anyone who comes to town, but there's no need to set up something that big right now. That's a project for a week or two out, in my opinion.
 
It might actually be better just to remove that section for now. Maybe give a speech to that effect after we have had some time to work on it and have something more substantial for her to contribute to. Until then, we can just ask for help "normally".
 
Fair enough. I said I'd take suggestions and seeing as enough of you agree I'll take out the extra bits.

I'm also editing in a bit to text nagisa's... uncle was it? I'm thinking 5ish will let us have time to go to the hospital with Sayaka first.

Edit: I'll knock out the sub bits on meguca hotel for now, if enough people are against the whole section then I'll nix that too, so far it's about even for/against. Anyone feel like making a knock-down argument?

My thinking is that as an eventual goal we'll probably make it happen in some configuration no matter what else happens. Unless it's made irrelevant by breaking the system some other way. Anyway, by telling Oriko we essentially get insurance against (the unlikely event of) her turning on us, because she can't do that without destroying the chance of a good thing. It also gives her something to strive for, a goal worth putting aside her differences to achieve. She seems fundamentally idealistic, despite her crappy methods, so this should be just the sort of thing to shift her from grudging ally/prisoner to properly part of the group, at least on her end. Mami and Homura will of course take working on.
 
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Men, I don't see the point of bringing the hotel up if we aren't going to ask her for help, for advice, or if it isn't even relevant to her if it goes up or not. In fact, we haven't even decided if we want to do this yet.

That said, the vote now looks much less better now, even if the line stays in.
 
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I think it is way, way too early to be considering the meguca hotel. I don't have time to come up with a vote at the moment, but we really don't have the time to be doing that just yet. Obviously we'll be accepting anyone who comes to town, but there's no need to set up something that big right now. That's a project for a week or two out, in my opinion.
Ah, I should clarify. I don't actually intend to set it up this week, I just figure telling her about it way ahead of time will make her happier about the help she's giving us and less likely to backstab.
 
I think it is way, way too early to be considering the meguca hotel. I don't have time to come up with a vote at the moment, but we really don't have the time to be doing that just yet. Obviously we'll be accepting anyone who comes to town, but there's no need to set up something that big right now. That's a project for a week or two out, in my opinion.
I'm not sure if it's possible to put the hotel off much further than when we rob the Soujus. They do have at least a dozen soul gems.
 
Ah, I should clarify. I don't actually intend to set it up this week, I just figure telling her about it way ahead of time will make her happier about the help she's giving us and less likely to backstab.
I don't think mentioning it now really helps. She probably isn't going to betray us, and if she is, that won't change anything. We don't need to do anything so complicated, since it really shouldn't require a lot of setup, now that I think about it. If we suddenly need to house a bunch of meguca, we can just cover ourselves in grief armor, rob a shitload of ATM's and boosh: we have enough money. Even if we don't do that, we have Homura to help us steal things, and pretty much any way we could think of to steal a bunch of money would work. We should wait until we know who we're dealing with to bother setting anything up.
I'm not sure if it's possible to put the hotel off much further than when we rob the Soujus. They do have at least a dozen soul gems.
But we won't be robbing them for like, a week, since the exodus from Asunaro doesn't occur for two weeks.
 
Tentative vote, based on what you've all been saying. Suggestions welcome. Might need to trim it down a bit.

[x] Call Kirika and Oriko, ask to come over, offer to bring groceries.
[x] Text Nagisa's uncle asking if it would be okay for her to come round today around 5.
[x] Practice roof-running on the way to the store and the way to Oriko's house. You've done these impossible mid-air momentum changes in battle without thinking, you know you can do it, try to tap into those instincts.
-[x] If they want groceries, get some groceries, and cake, and some ceylon black tea. If they don't, just the tea, it's a gift.
-[x] Ask her if Akiko is likely to recover ever without intervention.
-[x] Explain that there's a magical girl who goes around collecting soul gems, mention possibility of raid on gem collecter girl in the future to make her stop and possibly save her captives.
-[x] Talk about eventual possibility of the Meguca Hotel being a thing. Now that Sabrina's here, there's no more reason girls have to fight than normal people. We can break the system.
-[x] Enlist her and Kirika's help to spot us while we science. Kirika can antimagic pulse if things go wrong, Oriko can tell us if things are likely to go wrong.
--[x] Pump healing magic into a clear seed. Try to focus on healing the girl within, pay very close attention to any small changes to the seed or if anything materialises nearby.
--[x] Try to make a witches barrier. Focus on the feeling you got when you studied them before.

Edited to change if akiko will "wake up" to "recover".


Alright I'm going to deconstruct this a bit so bare with me.

[x] Call Kirika and Oriko, ask to come over, offer to bring groceries.
[x] Text Nagisa's uncle asking if it would be okay for her to come round today around 5.
[x] Practice roof-running on the way to the store and the way to Oriko's house. You've done these impossible mid-air momentum changes in battle without thinking, you know you can do it, try to tap into those instincts.
-[x] If they want groceries, get some groceries, and cake, and some ceylon black tea. If they don't, just the tea, it's a gift.

As I said before. It's a bit difficult to get groceries without money and we used almost all of it on the brunch with Kyouko.

-[x] Ask her if Akiko is likely to recover ever without intervention.

A fair question, though I was kinda hoping we could go a visit with Oriko without asking her to precog relatively non-urgent matters.

-[x] Explain that there's a magical girl who goes around collecting soul gems, mention possibility of raid on gem collecter girl in the future to make her stop and possibly save her captives.

Oriko is well aware of Soujo. She predicted she'd arrive in Mitakihara in roughly two weeks. We don't need to explain this.

-[x] Talk about eventual possibility of the Meguca Hotel being a thing. Now that Sabrina's here, there's no more reason girls have to fight than normal people. We can break the system.

As others have pointed out. Too early for this.

-[x] Enlist her and Kirika's help to spot us while we science. Kirika can antimagic pulse if things go wrong, Oriko can tell us if things are likely to go wrong.
--[x] Pump healing magic into a clear seed. Try to focus on healing the girl within, pay very close attention to any small changes to the seed or if anything materialises nearby.
--[x] Try to make a witches barrier. Focus on the feeling you got when you studied them before.

While I don't have much of an issue asking Oriko's help to SCIENCE!, the vote doesn't specify where to actually do this, and I don't think Oriko would be too fond of us doing science at her home.
 
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