Muramasa
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X's make your vote official. I'm not ready to make an official vote because I want to get this right the first time.
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First try it with fire, plasma, compressed air guns and other materialistic things before doing it with straight light.
Also, if you're doing it with light, make sure the mirrors would aim it way from Sabrina and wear armor and sunglasses. If you completely cover it, the explosion will escape as soon we make a hole - or explode in all directions with sharpnel, given Kuvira being able to nudge our platform.
Anyway...A single grain weights what, less than hundreth of a gram given conventional things? To reduce the amount, we could convert into gas and cut that.
Small comparision:
1 milligram to pure energy = 90 thousand MJ
1 ton of dynamite = 5 thousand MJ
Granted, neutrino reactions and the like are a thing so the first one ends up being much less dangerous, but still on the scale of demolishing a skyscraper.
Also, if you're doing it with light, make sure the mirrors would aim it way from Sabrina and wear armor and sunglasses. If you completely cover it, the explosion will escape as soon we make a hole - or explode in all directions with sharpnel, given Kuvira being able to nudge our platform.
Anyway...A single grain weights what, less than hundreth of a gram given conventional things? To reduce the amount, we could convert into gas and cut that.
Small comparision:
1 milligram to pure energy = 90 thousand MJ
1 ton of dynamite = 5 thousand MJ
Granted, neutrino reactions and the like are a thing so the first one ends up being much less dangerous, but still on the scale of demolishing a skyscraper.
FlatlineAskari
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Hence, try to convert to light. A worst-case tenth-kiloton optical radiator at 100m almost certainly wouldn't kill us.
Seeing if it still works like a conventional grief seed sounds like a start?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
That's fair. We could try adding random properties to grief, and if we get it always right on the first try, we could be reasonable certain that it'll work out.
*baseless and unnecessary panicking*
I trust all of you to be responsible with the sciences.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
So, the first point of that experiment would be decompressin grief as much as possible, then separating the smallest part of it we can control.
Then, testing our grief manipulation to check if we can reliably add properties to it at a whim. If yes, create the best containment we can make and transform that tiny little bit of grief into energy of some sort.
As far as testing the durability of grief against a transmutated material, what can we transmutate? Graphene, diamond? Something we're sure won't explode.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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We don't know if we can convert it all into light, or that we'll get it right first time. The difference between light and (say) X-rays or radio waves or gamma radiation is just a question of wavelength (and energy per individual photon), after all. It's still the same basic form of energy, so I really wouldn't want to have to rely on getting it all into the correct range on a first attempt.
Muramasa
Best Girl
[] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[] Converting grief into energy:
-[] Transmute the toughest material you can make with grief. Tough in the "can withstand a kiloton explosion" levels.
-[] Stress test it with solidified grief to see which is more resistant to damage
-[] Use whichever is better and create a testing chamber with it.
--[] Use the smallest amount of grief you can manage. Place it within the testing chamber.
--[] Create a transparent wall of grief to further protect yourself.
--[] Attempt conversion into energy.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
[] Converting grief into energy:
-[] Transmute the toughest material you can make with grief. Tough in the "can withstand a kiloton explosion" levels.
-[] Stress test it with solidified grief to see which is more resistant to damage
-[] Use whichever is better and create a testing chamber with it.
--[] Use the smallest amount of grief you can manage. Place it within the testing chamber.
--[] Create a transparent wall of grief to further protect yourself.
--[] Attempt conversion into energy.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
Cannongerbil
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Uh, maybe we should start with turning grief into fire or something instead of heading straight for the mass to energy conversion? I'm talking about replicating what certain witches do with their barriers, except instead of cake or crayons we turn them into flames.
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For some reason, I am thinking Oriko cleaned her gem with it.
Double-checking doesn't hurt tho. Grief seeds don't exist in stasis.
E: Can we find out grief's weight/see if we can let go of grief TK?
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Walpurgis has precedent for grief flames.
(And we all know Dedolere is Walpurgisnacht's core, so it should work!
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I don't think we'd get uberwitch if we don't put grief into seed. Even in Barrier, our control reigns supreme.
However, purposefully showing grief into seed is an idea for Walpurgis practice.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Older vote:
[] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[] Converting grief into energy:
-[] Transmute the toughest material you can make with grief. Tough in the "can withstand a kiloton explosion" levels.
-[] Stress test it with solidified grief to see which is more resistant to damage
-[] Use whichever is better and create a testing chamber with it.
--[] Use the smallest amount of grief you can manage. Place it within the testing chamber.
--[] Create a transparent wall of grief to further protect yourself.
--[] Attempt conversion into energy.
[] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
Gerbils Suggestion:
[] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[] Converting grief into witch barrier properties like fire.
[] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
[] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[] Converting grief into energy:
-[] Transmute the toughest material you can make with grief. Tough in the "can withstand a kiloton explosion" levels.
-[] Stress test it with solidified grief to see which is more resistant to damage
-[] Use whichever is better and create a testing chamber with it.
--[] Use the smallest amount of grief you can manage. Place it within the testing chamber.
--[] Create a transparent wall of grief to further protect yourself.
--[] Attempt conversion into energy.
[] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
Gerbils Suggestion:
[] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[] Converting grief into witch barrier properties like fire.
[] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
[] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
[] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[] Take Hildegarde and carefully begin infusing it with magic.
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Muramasa
Best Girl
Fuck. I don't know how that line got lost in the transition. Fixed.
Cannongerbil
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Hmm, can we actually do this? Last I recall our last attempt at doing so went kaput, and since then the only practice we've had on our magic has been on enchantment, which we never fully mastered. As in, the pieces of rocks that we were using for practice kept shattering. I'd rather not accidentally shatter Hildegarde's grief seed due to improper handling.
Muramasa
Best Girl
That's why I considered working on our enchantment magic first.
Well I can put in another line.
[] If infusing magic with Hildegarde fails. Practice your Enchantment magic.
"carefully" should be enough, and it's more of an attempt at feeding it magic at this point. It should be okay, I think.
FlatlineAskari
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As far as shielding goes - there isn't really a single magic solution here. If we're worried about radiation, we should be going for lead, boron, tungsten carbide, something like that. For conventional protection - rhenium diboride, diamond, a steel, maybe an ablative aerogel, something along those lines. To account for more esoteric magical effects, I'd suggest adding mundane materials, anything specifically not transmuted grief.
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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Hmm, I'm thinking that we should put practice with our magic first, then work on Hildegard. Because the chance of something going wrong when we just shove the magic into Hildegarde willy nilly is too damned high. I would say that it is higher than the risk of something going wrong during the grief to energy experiment.
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