May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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Meganekko
- Location
- Out There
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- She/Her
Considering that Publicola's kinda running the quest when Dr. Snark isn't, the droid version should do great with the Commerce Guild.
- Maybe there were signs and his psychologist missed the danger, maybe there was a scheduling problem and he just never got an appointment once things started going bad. The thing to keep in mind about the force is that it can trap its users in negative emotional loops fast, look at Anakin's meteoric descent into child murder
- Dara probably believes we engineered her loosing her limbs in order to make her indebted to us because she thinks the Abyss Walkers are the devil
Apropos of nothing in particular, I was checking the front page, and noticed something:
A question for @Dr. Snark: obviously this would only be relevant for next turn, but would it be possible to propose a write-in to build more custom couriers, so as to gain another +1 Hero Action? The list of available Hero Actions is really long, and even at 3 per turn we probably won't be able to cover them all before we press the big red button....
Our action economy in this quest feels somewhat imbalanced. As of next turn, we will have:
- 2 Martial Actions (plus 1 Yularen subversion roll)
- 3 Diplomacy Actions (1 regular, 1 CNS, 1 Force Order)
- 3 Stewardship Actions (2 regular, 1 Sienar)
- 4 Intrigue Actions (3 regular, 1 seekers)
- 4 Lore Actions (1 regular, 2 archaeology, 1 Force Study)
- 2 Learning Actions
- 3 Personal Actions
- 3 Hero Actions (plus 1 genemod action)
All of our action categories are full-to-bursting with actions (due to the slew of write-ins over the past few turns), but at least in Diplomacy, Stewardship, Intrigue, and Lore we have a decent chance of getting through most of them before we press the big red button. That's not the case for the other categories, for Martial and Learning and Hero actions. That's why I suggested a second round of Sienar Couriers above.
My question for @Dr. Snark: is there any way that we could add a 3rd action for our Martial or Learning categories?
Even if they're limited to a subcategory (like the 'archaeology' actions for Lore) an extra action in either category would be a godsend. Take our Learning category: even if we consistently pick a single 'anomalous material' each turn, it'd take another year or two (4+ turns) to study them all. We have oodles of money, lots of default bonuses, and a plethora of specialist-species to recruit from -- is there any way to set up another research lab (or a research-based corporation) to handle some of the tasks.
Speaking of default bonuses, that might be way to do it. Perhaps you could give us an action or (expensive) base upgrade, that would remove one or more of our default bonuses, in exchange for adding that extra action. For instance, we receive a +5 to Learning rolls thanks to our Arkanian Recruitment Center. Perhaps we could instead funnel those scientists to a separate research complex, and assign them to focus on medical/biotech research each turn. We wouldn't see the benefits of those Arkanian scientists for any of our other research actions, but that'd be a ready excuse to add a +1 Biotech (Learning) action. The same might apply for the Shard engineers, who could be assigned to give us +1 Learning action dedicated to mechanical/electrical engineering.
The same applies to Martial. We have a Grand Fleet attached to the Oracle, and a support fleet attached to the Invisible Hand; combined, those give us +20% improved odds for every space-based Martial Action. Could we instead re-assign one of those fleets, losing the 'improved odds' bonus but gaining a +1 Space (Martial) action? That'd go a long way in helping us clear out the backlog before we go after this quest's Final Boss.
The list of 'Advanced Courier Vessels' that we received from Raith Sienar covers less than half of our current Abyss Council. Besides the two ships belonging to Ciaran, we only have special courier ships for seven of our Hero Units. We do not have any custom vessels for Jango Fett, Talesan Fry, Galen Erso, Mungo Baobab, or Priam (after the results of this turn, I expect we can add Quinlan Vos to that list as well). For that matter, nor do we have couriers for our Advisors or for our 'Tier 3' Abysswalkers.
A question for @Dr. Snark: obviously this would only be relevant for next turn, but would it be possible to propose a write-in to build more custom couriers, so as to gain another +1 Hero Action? The list of available Hero Actions is really long, and even at 3 per turn we probably won't be able to cover them all before we press the big red button....
Our action economy in this quest feels somewhat imbalanced. As of next turn, we will have:
- 2 Martial Actions (plus 1 Yularen subversion roll)
- 3 Diplomacy Actions (1 regular, 1 CNS, 1 Force Order)
- 3 Stewardship Actions (2 regular, 1 Sienar)
- 4 Intrigue Actions (3 regular, 1 seekers)
- 4 Lore Actions (1 regular, 2 archaeology, 1 Force Study)
- 2 Learning Actions
- 3 Personal Actions
- 3 Hero Actions (plus 1 genemod action)
All of our action categories are full-to-bursting with actions (due to the slew of write-ins over the past few turns), but at least in Diplomacy, Stewardship, Intrigue, and Lore we have a decent chance of getting through most of them before we press the big red button. That's not the case for the other categories, for Martial and Learning and Hero actions. That's why I suggested a second round of Sienar Couriers above.
My question for @Dr. Snark: is there any way that we could add a 3rd action for our Martial or Learning categories?
Even if they're limited to a subcategory (like the 'archaeology' actions for Lore) an extra action in either category would be a godsend. Take our Learning category: even if we consistently pick a single 'anomalous material' each turn, it'd take another year or two (4+ turns) to study them all. We have oodles of money, lots of default bonuses, and a plethora of specialist-species to recruit from -- is there any way to set up another research lab (or a research-based corporation) to handle some of the tasks.
Speaking of default bonuses, that might be way to do it. Perhaps you could give us an action or (expensive) base upgrade, that would remove one or more of our default bonuses, in exchange for adding that extra action. For instance, we receive a +5 to Learning rolls thanks to our Arkanian Recruitment Center. Perhaps we could instead funnel those scientists to a separate research complex, and assign them to focus on medical/biotech research each turn. We wouldn't see the benefits of those Arkanian scientists for any of our other research actions, but that'd be a ready excuse to add a +1 Biotech (Learning) action. The same might apply for the Shard engineers, who could be assigned to give us +1 Learning action dedicated to mechanical/electrical engineering.
The same applies to Martial. We have a Grand Fleet attached to the Oracle, and a support fleet attached to the Invisible Hand; combined, those give us +20% improved odds for every space-based Martial Action. Could we instead re-assign one of those fleets, losing the 'improved odds' bonus but gaining a +1 Space (Martial) action? That'd go a long way in helping us clear out the backlog before we go after this quest's Final Boss.
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- At the Edge of Insanity
Well, after certain discussions I can now confirm that Darras survival is my greatest regret of my time as GM. My god, she is paranoid.
"Good news! We saved your life and you won't be crippled for life! Just don't get shot again." - "ITS ALL YOUR FAULT I GOT CRIPPLED!" - "No, that was Granta Omega. Which you Jedi were hunting. In a group of four people. With one of the lightsabers malfunctioning. We were busy fighting what felt like half the zombie population of Korriban trying to catch up."
And Riphath should reread his contracts again or he will only leave the Abyss Watchers via death by old age with uncollected retirement funds, severance pay and other boni.
And that is all I'll say.
"Good news! We saved your life and you won't be crippled for life! Just don't get shot again." - "ITS ALL YOUR FAULT I GOT CRIPPLED!" - "No, that was Granta Omega. Which you Jedi were hunting. In a group of four people. With one of the lightsabers malfunctioning. We were busy fighting what felt like half the zombie population of Korriban trying to catch up."
And Riphath should reread his contracts again or he will only leave the Abyss Watchers via death by old age with uncollected retirement funds, severance pay and other boni.
And that is all I'll say.
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Hrrrrmmm...
I have an urge to make an omake featuring a future Ciaran talking to an aged Luke Skywalker and Rey on that rock of a planet that Luke hid himself on.
*Luke tosses lightsaber*
*Ciaran catches it from out of nowhere!*
"This old thing still getting thrown around? Shame on you young man! Your father was no different in his young age! Honestly, no respect for personal property..." /Ciaran smirk
Should I? Should I not? Answer quickly while the urge lasts!
I have an urge to make an omake featuring a future Ciaran talking to an aged Luke Skywalker and Rey on that rock of a planet that Luke hid himself on.
*Luke tosses lightsaber*
*Ciaran catches it from out of nowhere!*
"This old thing still getting thrown around? Shame on you young man! Your father was no different in his young age! Honestly, no respect for personal property..." /Ciaran smirk
Should I? Should I not? Answer quickly while the urge lasts!
I find that hard to believe. And you said it with a straight face‽
I would posit that that's something that you probably shouldn't, but please do it anyway.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
- Location
- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
I look forward to other people creating great (or even bad but funny) content for this.
DEW IT.
Also, I third public cola running the commerce guild.
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Jango still has the Slave I (who came up with that name?), so he doesn't need a personal courier.
Is the urge still there? Because I say go for it!
Sure, but the Slave I is hardly the most impressive ship. It began life as a prototype police cruiser designed for single-system use. Jango stole it during 'The Hunt', and later modified it with heavy ordnance, improved power generation, better engines, and minimal crew quarters.
Jango is not among the galaxy's finest engineer. Raith Sienar is.
I'm sure Raith could use the Firespray chassis as a base, but I'd like to see what he can do, to make a custom ship fit for the Mand'alor.
Notably, he had to fill up nearly two-thirds of the available internal space with new engines to make the thing even vaguely viable as a bounty hunting ship.
There'd be some interesting questions there, given she's a fair bit older than Anakin, older than Padme and probably older than Obi-Wan.
Yet I suspect she'd mysteriously still be looking relatively young and vital, I can't see Ciaran accepting old age with grace.
Chalk it up to (involuntary?) time travel?
She is a Sith Lord and a SV character both. I would be shoked if she did not look into immortality of some kind.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
She even got eyes via genemods so she can actually look in to it yes.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
- Location
- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
He already has.
It's called the Skipray Blastboat. Designed prior to the Clone Wars (but only put into use in limited quantities because it didn't match the Empire's fighter doctrine), a fighter-bomber armed to the teeth by default (ion cannons, gun turret, torpedo launcher, missile launcher) that can be crewed by 1 person if desired, but benefits from two additional gunners and a sensor operator. 90% as fast as an X-wing, with double the shielding of one. Does really well in atmosphere.
I'm sure a modified version of this with Jango's diplomatic transponder would sit quite nicely; the scorpion-like frame and all the feelings that might evoke (something powerful and dangerous but misunderstood and generally inclined towards self-protection) would fit beautifully with Mandalorian sentiments.
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Part of the reason he likes Slave 1 is that as a former police ship it has a brig.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
- Location
- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
How much bounty hunting is he doing these days to need one? Could insist on it as part of the modifications made to a Skipray.
@Dr. Snark, let us know what you decide for an alternate reward for the Mungo Baobab/Hoersch Kessel action.
I'm looking forward to seeing the updated results!
Indeed, @Dr. Snark, iirc when I asked if we could simply invest in H-K Drive via base upgrades, you explicitly called out the shipyards as something that only taking an action would get us. Getting some trade income as a reward is not how you described the option.
Not to harp on it, but here's the write-in that I proposed back in Turn 25:
After we recruited Mungo Baobab, I proposed a Hero Action for this turn:
When you clarified that thanks to our alliance with Dooku we have the blueprints for most of the CIS ships, @spiritualatheist asked:
You included it as a 'Contact Ship-Builder' action (along with SubPro), rather than as a stand-alone 'buy them out' action. Personally, I assumed this meant it'd take two consecutive actions -- one to make contact, and a follow-up to buy them out and receive the full benefits.
After we recruited Mungo Baobab, I proposed a Hero Action for this turn:
This was intended to mirror the 'Journeys of an Exile' actions for Asajj Ventress, or the Materials Research actions for Galen Erso; to use hero actions as stand-ins for a specific type of action, covering the same ground without spending a Stewardship (or Lore, or Learning) action.
When you clarified that thanks to our alliance with Dooku we have the blueprints for most of the CIS ships, @spiritualatheist asked:
The goal of 'contacting'/buying out Hoersch-Kessel was to gain access to many pre-existing shipyards that can mass-produce these ships and develop a true CNS battle fleet in the near term. Especially with three hostile fleets bearing down on us (Trench, Malevolence, and Pride of the Core) rapid expansion of our navy seemed like an obvious priority.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
- Location
- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
H-K, as a company, made a bunch of decent capital ships (Recusants, Munificents, and Lucrehulks) and fighters (T-wings and Starchasers) so it shouldn't be too hard for them to just start up their production lines again and provide us fleets.
Time for me to start crafting the Ossus omake.
Time for me to start crafting the Ossus omake.
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- Location
- Toronto
WHERE IS MUH KATANA FLEET REEEEEEEEEE
On a more serious note, for Clone Units to de-chip, I would suggest 327th or the 41st
Also, I wonder why the ARC trooper Alpha-17 hasnt gotten involved so far, he's a pretty close friend of Obi-Wan, and is pretty badass.
Also, They should try recruiting gungans into militaries. there surprisingly good fighters, especially in aquatic conditions.
Also, anyone else want to see Hondo? I really like Hondo I really hope im not the only one who really likes Hondo's character..........
On a more serious note, for Clone Units to de-chip, I would suggest 327th or the 41st
Also, I wonder why the ARC trooper Alpha-17 hasnt gotten involved so far, he's a pretty close friend of Obi-Wan, and is pretty badass.
Also, They should try recruiting gungans into militaries. there surprisingly good fighters, especially in aquatic conditions.
Also, anyone else want to see Hondo? I really like Hondo I really hope im not the only one who really likes Hondo's character..........
There's a Currently Non-Canon Omake in which Silas meets him.