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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • Kaiser Chris said:
    WTF? Hot Damn Sidney is ruthless. I kind of portrayed him in Warner Bros partition as kind of a pragmatic bastard who has his limits and purged the company of its stupidity, but I guess he can get really fucking petty to the point that he bribed Heinlen to trash talk Carrie. Well, I guess the Blood feud is more than justified and we shall do our best to burn Universal to the ground and piss on its corpse. Shame on Heinlen, but considering he's now rich enough to retire and have some hefty inheritance, part of me respects the grind.
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    Well look at it this way, we've kinda... ruined all of Sids Plans in the last two years to the point where it can be reasonably said, in his mind, that we have a spy in Universal who is giving us intel, and fucking up all his wonderful plans for taking over hollywood.

    Sid is mad that we managed to screw over his perfect plan in looting Warner's corpse.

    And Carrie far away from him to turn her into a hugely marketable and loyal movie star.

    And many other things that have caused ripples.

    but the thing I am going to leave you with is the simple fact that at the end, Heinlein did what was good for Heinlein, and honestly, I respect the hustle, even if he was an asshole about it.
    overmind said:
    ...Seriously. He insulted our wife, just because of business?
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    If you got paid a million dollars just to tell one of the competitors of your film studio to fuck off, and maybe make him go into his famous rages and maybe get him in trouble and give him bad press, with the possibility that he could probably kill you wouldn't you do it?

    I would.

    And Heinlein took the risk of pissing off the Goose so he could quietly retire and never have to write again, if he so pleased.

    Lets see how that works out? :V
    overmind said:
    Jesus. What, if they paid him more he would've tried to take a swing at us?
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    As much as Heinlein is a businessman, he would never really insult us. Our wife, sure, she's fair game.

    But Us? The American Hero? The Icon of Americana?

    No.

    Not even when they offered him a million bucks to do that.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Although going forward in the future I may do Omake dumps in all future book rights signings to make sure this isn't repeated.
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    Well, there are some book properties I want us to go for:

    Basil of Baker Street, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Chronicles of Prydain, and the Barsoom Saga.

    What do you think?
    Magoose said:
    If you got paid a million dollars just to tell one of the competitors of your film studio to fuck off, and maybe make him go into his famous rages and maybe get him in trouble and give him bad press, with the possibility that he could probably kill you wouldn't you do it?

    I would.

    And Heinlein took the risk of pissing off the Goose so he could quietly retire and never have to write again, if he so pleased.

    Lets see how that works out? :V
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    ...Darn it Magoose, stop making me respect Heinlein when i'm trying to be pissed at him!
     
    Whenyouseeyou said:
    Hey @Magoose can we sue universal in the billions and if we succeed would it hurt them immensely
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    That's not how slander works. Paying someone to insult someone's wife in a private conversation isn't grounds for a lawsuit, and while Bruce could go to the tabloids with this, better to just take the high road and outperform Unviersal to where their films bomb especially with Heinlen works. Let's save the nuclear option for scumbags that truly try to deeply hurt the O'Brian family.

    Magoose said:
    As much as Heinlein is a businessman, he would never really insult us. Our wife, sure, she's fair game.

    But Us? The American Hero? The Icon of Americana?

    No.

    Not even when they offered him a million bucks to do that.
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    The irony of that statement is that if Heinlein insulted Bruce then he probably wouldn't give much of a shit, just shrug be disappointed and move on with his life. But Heinlein insulted the beloved Carrie O'Brian, and that makes Bruce absolutely hate and loathe him. Do whatever you want to the Goose, but you insult or mess with his Carebear and he goes on the warpath.

    Whenyouseeyou said:
    Can we get rid of Sid because he's a bore here I really want him gone so we can have someone else take universal
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    Why would we do that? Sidney and Universal is one of the most fun things about the Lucasfilms Arc because Sid is legit Palpatine as a movie CEO and he's helping us craft the perfect underdog narrative to kill old Hollywood and help Lucasfilms rise on top to supreme.

    Although I do find it hillarious that Sid utterly hates Bruce for the Warner Bros Partition even though Bruce only got THX and a dozen classics and the lion's share went to Columbia. If he did this to Bruce for the auction then Lord only knows what he's got in mind for Alan Hirschfield. Also I looked up Alan, and I actually kind of like him because he got kicked out of Columbia OTL for taking a stand against a known embezzler being reinstated as a company executive.
     
    Magoose said:
    that you were some party boot-liking liberal who just did every thing he wanted for publicity and clout, not because you actually believed in it.

    Then he said something about Carrie deciding to look like an Amazonian from fiction, with muscles that made her unladylike and ugly, with the muscles clashing with her figure, and how it would make her infertile, and that she would suffer for it.
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    Wow those this guy have no tact is he dead set in burning all bridges with us because thats how it looks like to me


    Magoose said:
    Heinlein was trying to piss you off because he was paid to piss you off. It's not that he has anything against you, it is strictly business for him.

    And throwing you off kilter is more for his profit in securing his buissness, rather than any genuine malice against you.
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    Those are still fighting words but if its true im verry disappointed in him i expected better from him. Those bridges are stil charcoal if they even still exist though.
     
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    overmind said:
    ...Darn it Magoose, stop making me respect Heinlein when i'm trying to be pissed at him!
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    I mean, I did some other role besides the nat one off screen, mostly to help write the results.

    Most of the time, its simple things, that just let me do things.

    Then there is the nat 1 here that really got my brain turning, and made me think of all the ways to do something fun, make people angry...

    And keep it in character for Heinlein.

    The man just does not give a shit, so I decided to make him not give a shit about burning bridges, because he dosen't care. He got paid.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Why would we do that? Sidney and Universal is one of the most fun things about the Lucasfilms Arc because Sid is legit Palpatine as a movie CEO and he's helping us craft the perfect underdog narrative to kill old Hollywood and help Lucasfilms rise on top to supreme.
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    And I love it to, enough to where I am going to keep this train going for as long as we can.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Although I do find it hillarious that Sid utterly hates Bruce for the Warner Bros Partition even though Bruce only got THX and a dozen classics and the lion's share went to Columbia. If he did this to Bruce for the auction then Lord only knows what he's got in mind for Alan Hirschfield. Also I looked up Alan, and I actually kind of like him because he got kicked out of Columbia OTL for taking a stand against a known embezzler being reinstated as a company executive.
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    He's going to try and fuck Alan in ways that will make Papa Palps killing the jedi in the Prequals look nice and civil.
    Whenyouseeyou said:
    Say @Magoose if we sue heinlein would he regret ever taking the money
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    Why would he, he's got more money then god, and he's going to be dead in a decade.

    If he has any regrets, its certinaly not going to be one where Bruce O'Brian is involved.
     
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    TimEd said:
    Frankly great news for us overall.


    ... can we make Elvis star in a Men In Black movie?
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    You read my mind.

    Perhaps we can amke a pitch for it. Elvis could be the rookie who is way over his head and gets admitted to the organization in the end. I'm thinking a trilogy, where we see actual character developement between him and the mentor, until in the last movie the Mentor passes the torch and is neurolized instead of doing it in the first one.
     
    overmind said:
    You read my mind.

    Perhaps we can amke a pitch for it. Elvis could be the rookie who is way over his head and gets admitted to the organization in the end. I'm thinking a trilogy, where we see actual character developement between him and the mentor, until in the last movie the Mentor passes the torch and is neurolized instead of doing it in the first one.
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    Let's wait for Zade's pitch first. Elvis did say he wanted a simple spy adventure where he acts like James Bond and gets the girl so a fun standalone would probably be for the best or something James Bond esque that can serve for a series with other actors playing the role. I think Men in Black is a bit too complex for what Elvis is going for and I really want to save it for Will and Tommy Lee Jones.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Let's wait for Zade's pitch first. Elvis did say he wanted a simple spy adventure where he acts like James Bond and gets the girl so a fun standalone would probably be for the best or something James Bond esque that can serve for a series with other actors playing the role. I think Men in Black is a bit too complex for what Elvis is going for and I really want to save it for Will and Tommy Lee Jones.
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    Fair enough. When we do, I hope we can still do a trilogy with the passing of the torch in third film instead of the first one though.
     
    yeah, a trilogy is probably not what Elvis wants. A standalone movie should suffice. Anything that happens after that relies too much on how Elvis is feeling at the time.
     
    TimEd said:
    yeah, a trilogy is probably not what Elvis wants. A standalone movie should suffice. Anything that happens after that relies too much on how Elvis is feeling at the time.
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    Perfect concept for a series that requires cycling through multiple actors for the main role: Altered Carbon and Doctor Who...and I don't think the Brits will let us make an American Spinoff.
     
    Magoose said:
    Now, normally, I would say leave it to something as the update and don't read into it.

    But I will give you a little thing.

    Heinlein was trying to piss you off because he was paid to piss you off. It's not that he has anything against you, it is strictly business for him.

    And throwing you off kilter is more for his profit in securing his business, rather than any genuine malice against you or Carrie.
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    He called Carrie ugly, he didn't need to do that but DECIDED too.

    So fuck him, let's burn his career to the ground.
     
    Do American Austin Powers with Elvis as the main character. Bruce Campbell as his sidekick who does gigs as an Elvis impersonator.

    Or if he wants to lean more on the adventure angle than a fun 'Spy' Story, do a version of The Mummy.
     
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    overmind said:
    Among the casting, we should find someone young to play the Prince, that way we can use him for more Conan movies and keep some sense of continuity before we inevitably replace him.
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    Top 3 I can think of who would be acting at this time would be Antonio Banderas, Hiroyuki Sanada, and possibly Colin Firth. Maybe John Leguizamo or Daman Wayans?
     
    I'm not gonna shed any tears about striking out with the weirdo liberterian homophobe fourth-rate author.

    Fucker gave poly people a bad name.
     
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