TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
And thus we fall into exactly the issue I was talking about, and that me and Overmind actually discussed during our back and forth about what comic company to purchase. Doing something like what you suggest would be involving ourselves far too much into running the comics company as opposed to just having them as a subsidiary. Overmind misunderstood what I had said and thought this was what I was pushing for, but it's not. What you're describing is micromanaging the company, specifically outlining vetoing stories or hovering over the shoulders of editors. Shit that's the job of the Editors or Editor-in-Chief. I can't support something like this and it's comments like this that outline exactly why I don't trust the thread and that makes me wary of purchasing any comic company at all and low-key hoping we roll low on the Warner purchase. It's not out of malice or anything, but it's clear that people are going to get far too enthusiastic and it's going to take up too much space in the quest.
Okay I'm gonna drop the argument after this post so Magoose can get back to writing the update, but when I said stuff like preventing One More Day, I didn't mean have Bruce become a Marvel Editor and look over every comic. I meant more if the public is having an insane backlash to something like One More Day, just come in and use executive privilige to course correct and get the comics back on track then leave to do movie stuff. I think that most infamous comics don't need active intervention as long as they're forgotten, just only get rid of the couple of stinkers that have the public unanimously against it and hurt the product's reputation. Once again going back to the Bob Iger example, if the public is reacting wildly to something one of the subsidiaries do, he as the CEO is going to come in and check over what's happening and what he needs to do for damage control, but he's not going to look over shoulders and give orders for every mistake or criticism.
Hey @Magoose want to roll if ex president Truman is alive because I want his reaction on us one punching the Soviet boxer at the Olympics and I feel really bad about how he saw American after the proxy war they lost
Okay I'm gonna drop the argument after this post so Magoose can get back to writing the update, but when I said stuff like preventing One More Day, I didn't mean have Bruce become a Marvel Editor and look over every comic. I meant more if the public is having an insane backlash to something like One More Day, just come in and use executive privilige to course correct and get the comics back on track then leave to do movie stuff. I think that most infamous comics don't need active intervention as long as they're forgotten, just only get rid of the couple of stinkers that have the public unanimously against it and hurt the product's reputation. Once again going back to the Bob Iger example, if the public is reacting wildly to something one of the subsidiaries do, he as the CEO is going to come in and check over what's happening and what he needs to do for damage control, but he's not going to look over shoulders and give orders for every mistake or criticism.
That's still far too much involvement. There shouldn't be any "executive privilege" being invoked at all. That isn't our job, it's the job of the Editors. The absolute most that I would advise is placing an Editor-in-Chief for the company and having actions and function similar to Eisner. Maybe (and that's a big maybe) allow players to make comic pitches that we can submit, similar to how owning a video game arm is likely to go. Something that increases player interactivity without taking over the point of the quest. The kind of pitch than can be made would likely need to be heavily restricted so that it doesn't turn into something like the Men of Tomorrow Comic Producer Quest, but it could maybe be done, although I'm iffy on that. The point is that what you think is a reasonable ask is exactly what I was outlining as to why I don't trust the thread and the overenthusiasm. It's just too far and the players just aren't likely going to see that in their overzealousness. It's why even though I'm pushing for a Charlton purchase, I would just rather we get nothing at all if it's going to become an issue.
Okay I'm gonna drop the argument after this post so Magoose can get back to writing the update, but when I said stuff like preventing One More Day, I didn't mean have Bruce become a Marvel Editor and look over every comic. I meant more if the public is having an insane backlash to something like One More Day, just come in and use executive privilige to course correct and get the comics back on track then leave to do movie stuff. I think that most infamous comics don't need active intervention as long as they're forgotten, just only get rid of the couple of stinkers that have the public unanimously against it and hurt the product's reputation. Once again going back to the Bob Iger example, if the public is reacting wildly to something one of the subsidiaries do, he as the CEO is going to come in and check over what's happening and what he needs to do for damage control, but he's not going to look over shoulders and give orders for every mistake or criticism.
The thing is I'm fucking sick of Marvel and DC and I want to do other things, but if we buy DC or Marvel they're going to consume more and more time and space of this quest as more and more people have ideas, maybe you don't thinks so but i garantee you it's going to happen. If people want to work with Marvel then there are producer quests for them.
The thing is I'm fucking sick of Marvel and DC and I want to do other things, but if we buy DC or Marvel they're going to consume more and more time and space of this quest as more and more people have ideas, maybe you don't thinks so but i garantee you it's going to happen. If people want to work with Marvel then there are producer quests for them.
The thing is I'm fucking sick of Marvel and DC and I want to do other things, but if we buy DC or Marvel they're going to consume more and more time and space of this quest as more and more people have ideas, maybe you don't thinks so but i garantee you it's going to happen. If people want to work with Marvel then there are producer quests for them.
Taking a clear and affirmative stance against censorship in any art media is always worth it...
Especially because we are going to face plenty of annoying moral guardians when we start making things like cartoons that don't insult the intelligence of children (IIRC we are going to have to live through at least 6 very annoying trends of Moral Guardians in the 80s), so better to have a defined stance ASAP.
Taking a clear and affirmative stance against censorship in any art media is always worth it...
Especially because we are going to face plenty of annoying moral guardians when we start making things like cartoons that don't insult the intelligence of children (and because IIRC we are going to have to live through at least 6 very annoying trends of Moral Guardians), so better to have a defined stance ASAP.
Again, it's pointless effort. Lucasfilm was literally founded off of this sentiment, so that's a moot point and our stance is already defined. And like I said, the Comics Code Authority is already basically dead. Just about everyone ignored them at this point and they already massively loosened what they restricted. Not to mention, a lot of people don't realize that the Comics Code Authority is voluntary, you don't have to adhere to it. The only reason companies did originally is because the public at the time cared and were less likely to buy a comic if it wasn't CCA approved. Now? It's on its way out and people don't give a shit. It's literally just beating a dead horse.
Again, it's pointless effort. Lucasfilm was literally founded off of this sentiment, so that's a moot point and our stance is already defined. And like I said, the Comics Code Authority is already basically dead. Just about everyone ignored them at this point and they already massively loosened what they restricted. Not to mention, a lot of people don't realize that the Comics Code Authority is voluntary, you don't have to adhere to it. The only reason companies did originally is because the public at the time cared and were less likely to buy a comic if it wasn't CCA approved. Now? It's on its way out and people don't give a shit. It's literally just beating a dead horse.
It is still a fucking disgusting dead horse that caused stagnacy in an art media for 20 years, so I would love to beat the hell out of that horse and the stupid book that inspired it...
It is still a fucking disgusting dead horse that caused stagnacy in an art media for 20 years, so I would love to beat the hell out of that horse and the stupid book that inspired it...
Again, it wasn't the CCA that did that. The CCA was voluntary and was the industry regulating itself. The reason they did it wasn't because of Wertham, but because the public didn't want those kinds of comics around anymore. Other kinds of comics continued to exist well after the implementation of the CCA, it's just that people weren't buying them. War comics were folded into Superheros, Jungle comics had no more market, Westerns lost appeal, people just weren't buying much beyond superhero comics. Pretty much the only genres that were actually outright destroyed by the CCA were Crime and Horror. I don't really want to get into a deeper discussion about this because it's a long discussion and a lot of people have mixed information on it.
On another topic, what new, bigger and better things has the fam been up to?
How's the Jumping Whale, has dad done any other gigs, how's the book series going, what exciting new games have been put out, how's our niece doing in school?
You know, I've had this in my drive for a bit now. Ever since I mentioned we could do an adaptation of the Percy Jackson Musical. But as I added more, I realized that the musical itself was pretty barebones in the end. I mean, I wanted to add the songs because I think they're awesome, but at the same time I feel we could add more story to it.
Then I thought we could just try and perhaps make a book out of it first, but aside from this being an acting quest it still didn't feel right. Our sister is trying to do the entire concept but in a more Celtic way, so trying a book and then expanding it, well it just didn't feel right. Besides, there would be no songs, and that's what drew me so much to this idea in the first place!
Then, when I was working on my Balto pitch it hit me; Not a movie, not a musical, but an animated movie! One where we can add the songs and still include the story from the book but adapted into animation which allows for some of the amazing scenes, fights, and us using the characters at their proper age!
So, I bring you:
Movie Pitch: Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief
GENRE: Fantasy/Adventure
SUBGENRE: Action/Drama
FORMAT: Movie (Animation)
Set Up: This is the story of Percy Jackson, a dyslexic thirteen-year-old who soon as discovers a world much bigger than he has ever imagined when it's revealed he is the son of the Greek God Poseidon, but is soon after framed for attempting to steal Zeus' Lightning. With the help of his newfound friends (Grover Underwood and Annabeth Chase) he is immediately handed a quest to redeem himself for a crime he never committed. During the trip Percy will face tribulations from both the outside and within, form new friendships and enemies, and be tested against some of the greatest monsters and warriors in Ancient Greece Mythology, reimagined in the new modern world.
Director: John Musker Composer: Danny Elfman
Perseus "Percy" Jackson: He is the thirteen-year-old Greek demigod son of Poseidon and Sally Jackson. Percy inherited Poseidon's "too changeable, unpredictable" nature as he is a very kind-hearted, brave-spirited, natural leader, but also has trouble controlling his anger, such as when he sees bullying. Percy has to deal with learning of his true parentage, as well as dealing with being accused of stealing Zeus' lightning during his quest.
Voiced By: Alec Baldwin Alternate: Grant Bardsley
Annabeth Chase: She is the Greek demigod daughter of Athena and professor Frederick Chase. Like her mother, Annabeth is an intellectual genius, wise and very witty, always looking for ways to take down anyone she meets. She is also incredibly determined and daring; however she can be very harsh and judgmental during first meetings. Annabeth's desire to go on Percy's quest stem from her feelings of abandonment and desire to be noticed, but during it she makes friend with both Percy and Groover, alleviating them and forming a new bond.
Voiced By: Linda Hamilton Alternate: Lea Thompson
Grover Underwood: He is a satyr and a Chosen of Pan. Grover is small even for his age (twenty-eight) but because satyrs mature half the speed of humans, he is considered a teenager. He is quite sensitive and attached to nature, and like all satyrs he can sense emotions as well as monsters and demigods. This ability serves him well during Percy's quest as he has to deal with the initial bickering between Percy and Annabeth, and keeping the team together.
Voiced By: Michael Jackson Alternate: Casey Kasem
Mr. D (Dionysus): He is the God of Wine...and now the School Counsellor of Camp Half-Blood as punishment for chasing after an off-limits nymph. At first glance, Dionysus seems like a rather displeasing God as he presented the exterior of a true misanthrope: cruel, intensely bitter, facetious and sarcastic to a fault. However, despite the impression he tries to give, deep down, Dionysus cares about his campers quite a bit.
Voiced By: Danny DeVito Alternate: Billy West
Mr. Brunner/Chiron: He is the activities director at Camp Half-Blood. He is an immortal centaur, son of Kronos and a famed trainer of heroes from Greek mythology. Chiron takes great pride in his students and acts as a father figure to those that have problems with their own family. He is remarkably patient with all of the campers, even those that can be exceptionally hard to deal with.
Voiced By: James Avery Alternate: William Daniels
Sally Jackson: Percy's mother, initially married to Gabriel Ugliano after being pregnant with Percy in order to protect him. She works in a candy shop, and when she was younger, she aspired to be a writer. She is nearly killed by the Minotaur, but is discovered to be alive in the clutches of Hades. Percy travels to the Underworld to free her during his quest.
Luke Castellan: He is a 19-year-old son of Hermes and May Castellan. While passing of as the friendly head counselor of the Hermes cabin, Luke is actually serving Kronos. He is resentful of his father, who adhered to the gods' policy of non-interference despite Luke's mother May Castellan's mental illness after her failed attempt to become the host of the Oracle of Delphi.
Voiced By: Mark Hamill Alternate: Jim Cummings
Ares: He is the Greek god of war. Ares is aloof, cruel, impetuous, proud, and violent; an easily angered bully who seems to care only about fighting and killing. He is also very sadistic, roaring with laughter whilst fighting. However, because of his arrogant and brutal nature, he can also be extremely reckless, overconfident, narcissistic and foolhardy, which led to him being manipulated by Kronos into fighting for him.
Voiced By: Kevin Conroy Alternate: Brad Garrett
Hades: He is the king of the Underworld and the Greek God of the dead and riches. Hades is an extremely solitary and independent god, choosing to rely on his own resources as opposed to that of others, and maintains a casually calm, reserved manner but is capable of a violent and terrifying temper. Hades is initially hostile to Percy, but is willing to hear him out and make a deal with him to return his mother to life.
Voiced By: Vincent Price Alternate: James Woods
Medusa: is one of the Three Gorgons, sister of Stheno and Euryale. While they are all hideously ugly, Medusa is the only one among them with the power to petrify people with her gaze. She tends to disguise herself as the owner of a shop ("Emporium") as the kindly "Aunty Em" before she petrifies those she coaxes inside.
Kronos: He is the Titan god of Eras, Evil, and Harvest. Kronos has a cruel and insatiable lust for power and domination that surpassed that of any other Titan. While not present except as a disembodied voice, he's known to have gathered followers from at least one of the members of Camp Half-Blood, and is the real mastermind behind the theft of Zeus' Lightning.
Voiced By: James Earl Jones Alternate: Earle Hyman
Fates: The three divine personifications of destiny. They control the metaphorical thread of life for every living thing from birth to death.
Argus: The security guard for Camp Half-Blood. He has blue eyes all over his body, and he would drive students out of the camp during their quests.
Charon: The Spirit of Boundaries and Territories. He is the ferryman that transports dead spirits to the Underworld.
Poseidon: God of the Seas, Father of Horses, and Percy's father. One of The Big Three.
Zeus: God of the Sky, King and Ruler of the Gods and Heavens. He is the father of Thalia Grace, who was turned into the pine tree that enforces the magical barrier of camp when she had fallen in battle on top of Half Blood Hill. One of The Big Three.
Clarisse La Rue: is a daughter of Ares and the former lead counselor of the Ares cabin at Camp Half-Blood, Clarisse is hot-tempered, courageous, strong, an incredible fighter, usually using an electric spear given to her by Ares, and a good military strategist.
Alecto/Mrs. Dodds: One of the three furies serving Hades who disguised herself as "Mrs. Dodds", a substitute teacher, in order to get close to Percy and kill him during a school trip.
"Prologue/The Day I Got Expelled" - Percy, Mr. Brunner, Mrs. Dodds, Grover, and Company.
"Strong" – Sally and Percy
"Another Terrible Day" – Mr. D, Percy, and Chiron
"Their Sign" – Chiron, Percy, and Luke
"The Campfire Song" – Luke, Annabeth, Percy, Grover, Katie, Silena, and Chiron
"The Oracle" – Oracle and Ensemble
"Killer Quest!" – Percy, Grover, Annabeth, and Company
"My Grand Plan" – Annabeth
"The Tree on the Hill" – Grover, Thalia, Annabeth, Luke, Percy, and Company
"In the Same Boat" – Grover, Annabeth, Percy, Ares, and Charon
"The Last Day of Summer" – Percy, Luke, Annabeth, and Company
"Bring on the Monsters" – Percy, Annabeth, Grover, Clarisse, Chiron, Silena, and Luke
"The Minotaur/The Weirdest Dream" – Percy, Sally, Grover, and Company
"Put You in Your Place" – Clarisse, Annabeth, Percy and Company
"Good Kid" – Percy and Company
"Lost!" – Percy, Annabeth and Grover
"Drive" – Grover, Annabeth, Percy, Ares, and Company
"The Weirdest Dream" (Reprise) – Percy, Kronos, and Luke
"Put You in Your Place" (Reprise) – Ares
"D.O.A." – Charon and Company
"Son of Poseidon" – Percy, Ares, Annabeth, Grover, Sally, and Company
"The Last Day of Summer" (Part 1) – Percy, Annabeth, Grover, Luke, and Company
"Good Weird" - Percy and Annabeth
"The Last Day of Summer" (Part 2) – Percy, Annabeth, Grover, and Company
"The Day I Got Expelled" (Reprise) – Percy and Company
A.N: Just to mention, in the "Approved Songs" section there are the songs which I think would work best for the movie and story to move forward and give more information on the cast. The ones in the "Rejected Songs" section are those which i felt were mostly superluous in some way, or just repetitive. I could be wrong of course, so if you liek you can hear them and tell me if they should beentered or not.
Ever since I mentioned we could do an adaptation of the Percy Jackson Musical. But as I added more, I realized that the musical itself was pretty barebones in the end.
Yeah, but Carrie as a musical makes way more sense than a Percy Jackson musical. Feels more like when there was that Spongebob musical. Now I'm just imagining a Guardians of Ga'Hoole, Artemis Fowl,or Warriors(that one YA or something book with the Cats) musical. Fucking weird.
