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Dragon Ball: After the End

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[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
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  • [X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
    [X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
    [X] Seal him into an actual house cat, because you think it's funny.
    -[X] With control of the body (middling harshness, Dazarel is restricted to hissing at things and scratching them. Means you could physically carry him during your day-to-day if you wanted without having to explain him to Garenhulders. Sacrifice a poor kitty).
    [X] Seal him into an inanimate object. Sorcerers will be able to get him visitation, so he won't be completely alone, but he will be completely disabled (harshest, completely strips any ability to affect the world aside from talking to willing, un-captive visitors).
    [X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
    [X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
    -[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
    --[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
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Tylonius said:
Ok, then how about the fact that it's pointless? It's just sealing him in an inanimate container, only the container will soon decompose.
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It's not pointless. It's metal. :sour:

[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

I think what Dazarel needs most of all are interesting ground-level experiences of human interaction. Reshape his perspective.

I honestly don't care about the benefits for us. We can just seal his power completely.

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Ridiculously Average Guy said:
Plan baby body isn't taking off, so:
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Oh I'm sorry, I falsely believed that sealing the POWER OF A SPACE DRAGON inside a REANIMATED BABY CORPSE was "sufficiently metal".

Clearly we need a LEVITATING reanimated baby corpse sealing the power of a dragon. :V

This is not a plan. This is album cover art.
 
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[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

Sorry cuteness of a chibi dragon is too much for me to resist.
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

GM said we can turn off the commentary. GM also said that even if Kakara died, he'd still be sealed inside her body and it would be like if he was sealed inside an inanimate object. There is no risk. There is a chance someone could magically interfere, but the same could be said for whatever he's sealed in. Being sealed inside a Super Saiyan of all things presents the least risk of someone or something breaking the seal.
 
[x] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
[ ] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
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Andres110 said:
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

GM said we can turn off the commentary. GM also said that even if Kakara died, he'd still be sealed inside her body and it would be like if he was sealed inside an inanimate object. There is no risk. There is a chance someone could magically interfere, but the same could be said for whatever he's sealed in. Being sealed inside a Super Saiyan of all things presents the least risk of someone or something breaking the seal.
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There is a very minor consideration that it would be better to seal him in literally anything ecept Kakara on the basis that if anything did ever affect the seal, she's the only one who could put him down again, but I agree the risk isn't really a major factor. I do think, however, that having Dazarel as a separate being will be better for reformation.

Also, I would point out that by definition if we want to make use of his power for ourselves, we'd have to allow that power through the seal, so there is some risk there. I'd rather just reform him outside.
 
Quest said:
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

Hmm at the end, I feel like the political capital thus would cost us just wouldn't be worth it. Best thing to do would be to go for the chibi version and keep him as our ward.

This way we can keep him around us to get all the interesting conversations we might have had with him in our head. It also lets us protect him from would be assassins and reminds people of our reputation when they see him. It'd also give us a very appropriate dragon motif, which was lacking in the quest so far.

Btw @PoptartProdigy How much of this did you see coming? Did you think it would end this way?
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Given the odds of successfully reinventing the Genki Dama in the time you had?

I did not see this coming.

In fact, Apra was on the chopping block for this one, the way the fight was going.
Benwise said:
@PoptartProdigy I've got a very important question.
Are any of the exiles like Krillin in that they don't have a nose and breathe through their skin instead?
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No.
Carrnage said:
@PoptartProdigy how vulnerable is each individual to an enemy sorcerer deciding to tamper with it?
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Gore17 said:
*headdesks repeatedly*

Fatally hurt. Aka, we're dead.

Also, for those concerned, @PoptartProdigy, how hard would it be for someone to tamper with the seal?
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I am assuming that both of these are the same question.

Somebody disrupting the seal is possible. However, them disrupting the seal is not a matter of them disrupting a person, it is a matter of them disrupting a mass spell working supercharged by the Genki Dama. There's a reasonable argument to be made that anything capable of wrecking that spell structure is not something you can gainfully fight in the first place.

For context, Babidi couldn't do it. No sorcerer living on Garenhuld is strong enough to do it, and without absolutely shattering the prohibitions of the higher forms, they're not going to become strong enough to do it.

Frankly, Kakara does not observe any risks inherent to the procedure worth considering. Not in terms of the seal failing or being disrupted.
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
Khona Moshr said:
Sorry cuteness of a chibi dragon is too much for me to resist.
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Now, see, that's a reason I can get behind. I still prefer Sealing him inside Kakara, but chibi dragon is the runner-up I want.
Deathbybunnies said:
There is a very minor consideration that it would be better to seal him in literally anything ecept Kakara on the basis that if anything did ever affect the seal, she's the only one who could put him down again, but I agree the risk isn't really a major factor. I do think, however, that having Dazarel as a separate being will be better for reformation.

Also, I would point out that by definition if we want to make use of his power for ourselves, we'd have to allow that power through the seal, so there is some risk there. I'd rather just reform him outside.
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Well, as pointed out above, anything that could affect the seal would either a) do it physically and the required damage for that would be fatal, or b) be a magic users so skilled and powerful that they could likely kill her without using Dazarel to do it.

And when it says "no risk", I trust that there is indeed no risk, unless the Sorcerers are wrong, in which case the safety of the other options is also suspect. There might be some OCP that provides a risk in the future, but those by definition cannot be predicted or expected, and it won't be from Dazarel. Put away the paranoia. Please.

Note: this doesn't mean you can't vote for something else, I just think it should be for a valid reason, such as being worried about the reaction, or wanting to pet and play with the Chibi Dragon.
 
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Ah well, I'm convinced. That said, I'd probably also vote for a write-in to let Dazarel decide, too.

[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
So, definitely gonna need to take an action to spend time with Dazarel next year... mellow him out through contact through Kakara. (Though, that didn't work on Dandeer...)
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

Screw it lets do this! Probably not happening at this point but I want it.
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[x] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

I'll throw my hat in at this point
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
@PoptartProdigy would it be possible to leave the Dragon with a tiny fraction of his Psychic powers - like, the equivalent of a single-digits-power-level amount? It would be neat if he could fly, and demonstrate the Psychic abilities on the off-chance we could learn something about him. If this is possible, would it be dangerous? (The sorcerers sounded sure that this was safe due to a lack of loopholes, and I'd hate to introduce one.)

Gore17 said:
Now, see, that's a reason I can get behind. I still prefer Sealing him inside Kakara, but chibi dragon is the runner-up I want.

Well, as pointed out above, anything that could affect the seal would either a) do it physically and the required damage for that would be fatal, or b) be a magic users so skilled and powerful that they could likely kill her without using Dazarel to do it.

And when it says "no risk", I trust that there is indeed no risk, unless the Sorcerers are wrong, in which case the safety of the other options is also suspect. There might be some OCP that provides a risk in the future, but those by definition cannot be predicted or expected, and it won't be from Dazarel. Put away the paranoia. Please.

Note: this doesn't mean you can't vote for something else, I just think it should be for a valid reason, such as being worried about the reaction, or wanting to pet and play with the Chibi Dragon.
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We haven't brought up the possibility of allowing the dragon to put its energy through the seal to use it ourselves, so we actually don't know that it's safe to do so. We can certainly find out very quickly though! @PoptartProdigy, would making use of Dazarel's power be dangerous, or can the sorcerers lock down any such power to be strictly under Kakara's control?
 
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I know! Ask the dragon which he would prefer from the two options so he at least has some choice.
 
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