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Probably that survey is family, and not cause he is a ace, also Joe deals with divinly beauty with most things so there is a higher bar for he to notice, he realized the moment it was pointed out to him.
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the combination of "Aisha" and "doctorates in materials science and engineering, medical doctor, and Alchemist." All in one weekend!
Given the size of my student debt, time investment, and how little of that info remains in my brain it is apparent that I went to the wrong place for education.
Comic book characters often claim the honorary titles of "Doctor" or "Professor". So would that make Joe "Professor Iron"?
Gumiho
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Well she doesnt want to turn out like her older brother. He has an enormous medical debt and willingly became a villain like a dum dum.I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the combination of "Aisha" and "doctorates in materials science and engineering, medical doctor, and Alchemist." All in one weekend!
Given the size of my student debt, time investment, and how little of that info remains in my brain it is apparent that I went to the wrong place for education.
Comic book characters often claim the honorary titles of "Doctor" or "Professor". So would that make Joe "Professor Iron"?
Gregory Crey
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How so? The only thing that separates it from his own defenses is that it is metal element and has life fibers, neither of which would break Lathe Metal backed by all of Joe's perks, let alone everything else.
The self imposed limitations that he has (mostly) broken as of the last two non-interlude chapters? Joe might survive FTL ramming, Fleet would not. Survey, from last chapter shows she has a big problem in that she is indecisive about which ability to use and generally overthinks things, she is no fighter and regardless of her abilities I am not convinced she can leverage them effectively. Matrix and Aisha can't get through Joe's defenses, Lathe Metal backed by perks ensures that, while Joe does have enough fire power to take them out or can countercraft something (also, Joe has perfect control of nanites and nanotech, so that is a hard counter to Matrix). I will even say Joe could take Garment as while she has great offensive power and invulnerability everywhere but the gloves, that last part is really important as the gloves are fairly mundane (but fashionable), only having the Heretical Adaption upgrade and thus would fall quickly to AOE attacks when not supported by Joe's Fashion Perk armoring them.
The only one I think he could be said to be equal to is Tybalt. He has a ton of skill and his power may be able to get around Joe's invincibility somehow (war god curse on his armor or something? I am really not sure that would work given it is a fiat backed perk), and while I maintain that the bio mods and boosts from being a heroic spirit/countercraft plus all of the other tech, magic and perks make Joes about equal, Tybalt also has Bezerkering which temporarily makes him invulnerable so that muddles things even more. I just consider it a toss up between the two.
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So I've had a thought.
Survey has XCOM psionics.
And psionics is an OC power which the shards don't understand.
Considering that Dominate is a psionic power and that survey is essentially an avatar who's willpower is basically infinite, does that mean that survey can dominate the normally master resistant parahumans like Alexandria or Weld?
Considering that dominate doesn't work by changing the brain biology afaik
Survey has XCOM psionics.
And psionics is an OC power which the shards don't understand.
Considering that Dominate is a psionic power and that survey is essentially an avatar who's willpower is basically infinite, does that mean that survey can dominate the normally master resistant parahumans like Alexandria or Weld?
Considering that dominate doesn't work by changing the brain biology afaik
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re-read the scene? it's not that Joe didn't realize how beautiful Survey was, it's that he didn't realize the implications of someone so beautiful walking around outside and trying to have a regular civilian life.
the scene went like;
Aisha: "you can't let her outside!"
Joe: "What do you me- OH, right, duh"
Survey: "is someone going to tell me what we're talking about?"
I think Alexandria's mind is uploaded into her Shard, or something, so trying to psionically dominate her mind would probably still be a no-go (you'd probably have to dominate the Shard, unless you were able to manage some sort of body-control). Weld, on the other hand, is simply favorably manton-limited, and derives his master-resistance from the fact that generally people who can master already living things cannot also master existing Not-alive things. So I think she could dominate him, at least. It really depends on whether the master-resistance is a part of their powerset or the result of shard-dynamics.
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She's not an avatar anymore; she's grounded in the fixed reference frame of a physical body.
More than that, she also inherited some amount of human personhood through Joe's soul donation, so any metaphysical abilities she has should reflect that baseline (with Joe's psychospiritual tinkering added on top), rather than reflecting a code base which never manifested psychic powers on its own terms.
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No, No I meant "avatar" as in the "AVATAR" From XCOM 2. It's basically the final form of the etherals and is capable of channeling incredibly vast amounts of psionic energy.
Their characteristic feature is their white hair
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It occurs to me that now that the AIs have souls they can gain Aura, and with the previous ruling from LordR that Tetra and Garment can as well, then the entire Workshop Crew can have Aura now. Even whatever nascent life is developing in the Exsphere is made of souls so logically that life can have Aura too.
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One, I strongly doubt that Survey's silver hair is a sign that she's fundamentally the same kind of entity as was created in an entirely different universe by a cabal of aliens with vastly different means.
Two, if psionics are an OCP to the entities, I strongly doubt it matters how much "psionic energy" she can throw around. Either it works because it cuts through some metaphysical backend, or the shards can overpower it because they can just use adaptive effectors to throw stupid amounts of energy at the wall.
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It is stated in the chapter, also, the perk it comes from is an XCOM 2 perk from the people that work with the aliens but then switched sides so why wouldn't Joe have the same methods as the XCOM universe? That is how Jumpchain perks work, taking abilities (or abilities inspired by) from universes.
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I stand corrected.
holy shit lmao you're almost as patronizing as I am. I've written several jumps, I'm not new to the concept.
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Looking back, yeah, it is. I didn't mean for it to be, just correcting what I saw as simple ignorance, but I was irritated. I think we both were. Regardless, I apologize, there is no need for such rudeness.
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I forgot he knows about the connection :/
If only...
The real OTP is Accord, let's be real
That omake is gonna happen soon, don't worry!Really though, I just used Melanie because I had just read Pretty Boy and needed someone for the omake, nothing more to it.
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I don't know, Accord has figured out that Garment is Apeiron's gloves and the two have a "purity of unity" or something like that. You may want to make it a OTTThe real OTP is Accord, let's be real
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Garment would probably have a lot of fixes to do for his and his underlings outfits, wouldn't she? Accord would certainly appreciate itI don't know, Accord has figured out that Garment is Apeiron's gloves and the two have a "purity of unity" or something like that. You may want to make it a OTT
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I don't know how many times I have to say this, Accord doesn't have that kind of interest on Apeiron. Sheesh!
He's clearly the diabolical mastermind whose end goal is to ship Garpeiron and to sink that damnable Khepeiron tag once and for all.
He's clearly the diabolical mastermind whose end goal is to ship Garpeiron and to sink that damnable Khepeiron tag once and for all.
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Loved the chapter, alternative POVs are fun and i would love to see them more often.
Even though i was hyped for the meetup i dont mind waiting more as this chapter didnt feel like "filler"
Even though i was hyped for the meetup i dont mind waiting more as this chapter didnt feel like "filler"
We need a interlude of Aisha's school life blowing past her teachers.
I mean it showed despite how OP Apeiron's team is, they still can make mistakes.
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Imagine, Brian thinking that Aisha triggered as a low-tier Thinker because suddenly his sister is getting perfect scores in her exams and the only rational explanation is Powers.We need a interlude of Aisha's school life blowing past her teachers.
(But more seriously, saying "I had a really good Teacher" and then showing superpowers is such a bad flag in Worm.)
More like Apeiron's beauty standards are so screwed that Survey is just slightly above average for him.
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More like he didn't consider the problem with a divinely beautiful woman walking out in the city until Aisha pointed it out to him.
They mean that the spear is made of stygian iron which I'm sure does something to either the soul or life force of anyone who isn't connected to death that it touches.
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It is made of Stygian Iron, but how is it gonna do anything to Apeiron if it can't get past his armor?
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So... what rating Survey and Fleet will/would get from PRT when/if they'll see them in action? Maybe something like this?
Survey:
Mover - 3 (because mass effect cores)
Blaster - 9 (because armor-ignore, warping blasts)
Master - 10 (because psionics and hacking)
Brute - 6 (because Apeiron made body)
Thinker - 12 (because limited omnipotence)
Stranger - 5 (because polimorphic alloy)
Fleet:
Mover - 8 (because superspeed without Velocity's negatives)
Brute - 10 (because god-forged Buma)
Thinker - 6 (because combat precognition)
Master - 4 (because remote vehicle control)
Survey:
Mover - 3 (because mass effect cores)
Blaster - 9 (because armor-ignore, warping blasts)
Master - 10 (because psionics and hacking)
Brute - 6 (because Apeiron made body)
Thinker - 12 (because limited omnipotence)
Stranger - 5 (because polimorphic alloy)
Fleet:
Mover - 8 (because superspeed without Velocity's negatives)
Brute - 10 (because god-forged Buma)
Thinker - 6 (because combat precognition)
Master - 4 (because remote vehicle control)