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♦ Topic: New Cape Roundup - Post-Lung
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
ScienceHippo (Original Poster) (Unverified Ungulate)
Posted On Apr 27th 2011:
Alright everyone. We've had some time to recover from the night of hell, or at least a lot of us have. Not going to touch on the 'Dark Zone' or any of the BS effects still going on in the city. My side of town only got reliable power back a few days ago. I think by now most of us have seen the videos the ABB broadcasted during their fight against Brockton Bay's newest Tinker. Discussions of that fight can be found
here, and isn't the purpose of this thread.
What I am curious about is the rumors about some new capes that showed up in town. Not sure if they're new, or just coming in from out of town, but was hoping to see if anyone else had the data. From what I can tell, we have the following:
1. Big Case 53, said to have been seen working with Manpower of New Wave and rescue services. Some kind of Terrakinetic? (Edit: This has been confirmed to be Gully of the Los Angeles Wards, apparently in town on vacation? See her wiki page
here.)
2. Someone new supposedly working with Whirleygig of the Merchants. Some sort of blaster?
3. A man with some sort of multi-type weapon, or carrying multiple weapons. Was seen attacking and knocking out ABB members during the attack. Apparently resembled something out of a Kung-fu film. Weapon can apparently shift between a sword and gun (Apeiron-tech?)
4. The last one is very shakey. Some people who had serious injuries have reported being helped by someone, but they couldn't remember who, how, or when. Potential stranger, or just trauma talking?
What do people think?
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► Mooring you're face
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Really?!
More fucking capes!
Why! We don't need more of that shit right now!!!!
►grometdrinkstea
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Come off it, there's always more and new capes flighting around here.
Now for what OP actually wanted
1. Big Case 53, said to have been seen working with Manpower of New Wave and rescue services. Some kind of Terrakinetic? (Edit: This has been confirmed to be Gully of the San Diego Wards, apparently in town on vacation? See her wiki page here.)
Hellova time to come vacationing. Good on her for lending a hand.
2. Someone new supposedly working with Whirleygig of the Merchants. Some sort of blaster?
Ain't heard anything bout that, but I guess there's a brain in there somewhere in that roadkill's skull.
3. A man with some sort of multi-type weapon, or carrying multiple weapons. Was seen attacking and knocking out ABB members during the attack. Apparently resembled something out of a Kung-fu film. Weapon can apparently shift between a sword and gun (Apeiron-tech?)
Probably some sorta Tinker if yer askin me. The On Pear's been making lotsa noise so someone aping his stylin ain't outta the question.
I think I heard somethin bout Tinkers inspirin other Tinkers anyway, so I'm only surprised it's taken so long for the copy cats to get about ya hear?
4. The last one is very shakey. Some people who had serious injuries have reported being helped by someone, but they couldn't remember who, how, or when. Potential stranger, or just trauma talking?
Sounds like three or four folk if yer askin me. Some sorta Healer, however they go about it, a Stranger to keep things hush, and a Mover to bandy them about so the Stranger don't stop workin so soon and the get caught. Maybe a Thinker ta guide em if they got some goal beyond tryin ta lend a hand in the midsta all this.
►Facetime (Verified Cape) (San Diego Wards)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
#1 is our girl Gully! And she's from San Diego, not L.A. She's no Angeleno!
But seriously, I've been in communication with her and she's doing fine. Her powers let her remold Earth, so she's been helping out with search, rescue, and recovery. Getting info out of that Dark Zone has been tough, but I can confirm that she and Manpower are doing what they can. And the phone I built for Gully has been allowing us (The Tinker-folk) to examine what the effects of that 'Dark Zone' are doing.
And can I just say that Manpower is jacked? I've seen bodybuilders out there that would be ashamed after seeing that hunk of-
Mod Edit: Enough of that. You may be a Ward but we still discourage that kind of talk. Hell, are you even old enough to start talking about that stuff?
►DrowningInTheBay
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Unlikely that the mystery cape going around is a healer type and a stranger. I say this mostly because healing and staying unnoticed don't really fold into the same power, if it was a particularly crafter changer(possibly with a stranger subtype) I'd definitely believe that they're running around unnoticed healing folks. The kungfu guy is 100% new but his weapon def looks too stylish for a newbie to have made themselves, like some people will point to Apeiron or even L33t but honestly both are outliers. Most early tinker work done without someone backing you looks closer to Sqealer tech of only way less rusted and possibly with a decent paint job. So either this is someone else's tinkertech and this newbie isnt a tinker, or they are a new tinker to the scene that has a backer that is way more subtle. I for one cant be sure which so I just flipped a coin and said not a tinker. What I'm more interested in is his scarf, who made that cause damn does it took good!
►Sototh
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ DrowningInTheBay mayhaps the scarf is Apeiron or Garment made? We all know Garment is practically a goddess of fashion (barring Apeiron) and that her shop is legit. Maybe she's also open to designing costumes for all capes, unlike Parian.
►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ DrowningInTheBay You.... are you being serious right now? Transforming weapon too cool to be real, uniform that was seen being shoot at (here) an nothing happen, that somehow staid immaculate after the fight was over (here and here)?
@ Sototh I seriously wouldn't be surprised if it was a colab.
Thought the question is, would the iron ape man be giving away his tech to just anyone?
EDIT: Also, yeah, that scarf is so freaking cool!...Just like a certain someone's cape, amiright?
►Theological Thrasher
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
I'm out in Boston, and we only had to deal with that power outage and then a bunch of gangs muscling, but shit died down quickly. What in the fuck is Brockton anymore? Dino C53 Super-Tinkers?! PRT Bases destroyed?! MASSIVE Bombing Sprees?! 50' DRAGON MAN?! 50' MECHA?!
Just... God help y'all out...
►MemeticLectern
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
There was a shaky recording posted; Traderby posted some screenshots of it (good idea, I've seen it, and it's not very clear), and it's clearly some sort of proximity stranger ability, considering the ABB thugs that just ran past him and looked around confused. Heck, the poster wildly swings their camera about while the man is recorded casually running down the road.
As for the grandpa? It's hard to tell but he doesn't seem to have much technique? He seems to have a low brute rating, and is just relying on that. Then again, the sword seemed to blur into a pistol. A relative of Miss Militia? Maybe the weapon holds the brute rating? Interesting to see both Swords and Guns... Seems Grandpa is Miss Militia++. The style of the weapon is vague, personally. If it's overly detailed, might just be due to this guy gaining powers due to action around/because of Apeiron. I will fight all the power-tinker fuckers who try to use this guy as evidence.
►HaiFuPP
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Cape 3 ran into me on hell night, literally. He tried to jump over me and ended up kicking me in the head. He stuck the landing anyway and ran off before I got to my feet. He's certainly a minor Mover and major asshole.
►GymRock
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
HaiFuPP are you the asshole that was trying to mug me? How'd you get out of police custody so fast?
►HaiFuPP
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
That must've been someone else.
►HoldMyFoam (Verified PRT Agent)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
In regards to #2, we've been given permission to give out information on him (As always, please view the normal press briefings for more complete information.) According to reports, he goes by the name of Scrub, and seems to be pretty young and not... all there. However, his power is serious business. Without testing we can't give a perfect rating on it, but it seems to just erase stuff it comes into contact with, and it's clear the kid either doesn't have good control over it, or is just shitty at aiming it. Either it just appears on it's own, or the blast moves faster than the eye can see, but the few videos we have of it make it look like it's not a true 'blaster' effect (as there is no trajectory from Scrub in that sense.) Functionally, it's essentially an odd form of Shaker ability but considering how dangerous it seems to be, the difference is for the eggheads to work out. He does seem to need line of sight, which is at least one thing useful to know.
It's advised that anyone who sees this cape evacuate the area immediately and contact the PRT as quickly as possible. The seemingly lack of accuracy/control might make Scrub more dangerous than expected due to it's volitivity.
In regards to 'Kung-Fu' (Really guys? Y'all are cape geeks and that's the best you can come up with?), the PRT has him marked down as a vigilante. The reports of him have been mostly in regards to disabling ABB members non-lethally and helping evacuate the injured to fallback positions. Unfortunately, no one has been able to speak to him as of yet, but I think his actions speak for himself. No preliminary name yet as outside of the few screenshots and videos posted, we really don't have a lot of reliable information on his abilities.
►MemeticLectern
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Glad we haven't discussed 4; those are rumors, and from what I've heard none of those people were on Apeiron's map. They just claimed they got injured; we have no proof. Obvious fucking hoax, made for attention.
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►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
My first thought after I've read that:
Weapon can apparently shift between a sword and gun (Apeiron-tech?)
was "Yeah, I get that you, guys, got a shiny new Tinker, but why the fuck attribute to him any tinkertech appearing around? Like "sword that also a gun" isn't that big of a deal. Armsmaster's halbeard can be:
Hallbeard (duh), Gun (link), Taser (link), Grappling-hook launcher / harpoon (link), Grenade launcher (link), Multitool (link), I dunno what but looks cool as hell (link) and, I bet, a dozen other things, coffee machine included... Well, unless he built a coffee machine into his bike, that is.
Hell, Chevalier have his cannon-sword, and he isn't a Tinker."
But then, after that vid, I get what did you meant. Yes, that thing looks way too professional for a fresh Tinker, even with a lot of resources to play with. That must be made by someone at least somehow comparable to Armsmaster.
►MemeticLectern
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
But then, after that vid, I get what did you meant. Yes, that thing looks way too professional for a fresh Tinker, even with a lot of resources to play with. That must be made by someone at least somehow comparable to Armsmaster.
I don't know why we're jumping to this? Miss Militia IS IN THIS CITY. Someone with a similar power appearing is not that insane? Considering the fact that all you see is the sword blurring into a pistol thru a shaky camera, I'm gonna say it's a projection. The only visible design seems to be a bunch of lines on the weapon, but who knows what it looks like up close? Is it even that detailed? @ HaiFuPP, what's your opinion? Did you see what the weapon looks like?
►CorEagle
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ MemeticLectern Um, I am a volunteer for the local hospital and we're swamped with work. I can confirm that most of our patients suddenly got healed with no explanation whatsoever. I don't know if it was a Stranger or just some strange long-range Tinkertech, but I'm really grateful that they got healed.
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
I don't know why we're jumping to this? Miss Militia IS IN THIS CITY. Someone with a similar power appearing is not that insane?
Not insane, but not likely either. Look, I know some capes (not much) that can project a weapon. One exact weapon, without any options. Sometimes, they can project multiple copies of that weapon, but that it. Miss Militia's power is kinda unique in that matter.
And his weapon looks too material for me to be a projection. Like, Miss Militia's weapons all that glowy and green. If that's not a tinkertech, my bet on a hammer space. Like, that's not a sword-gun thing, but a sword and a gun, and he just swapping it when need to. Wait, actually, sword can still be a tinkertech. And hammerspace can be tinkertech based too. But if so, that's definitely someone seasoned.
Also, I think on 0:34 in the video he used something like a staff, or maybe spear. That swithed back to sword too fast, and with a meh quality of the video, even frame-by-frame view not helping.
►MemeticLectern
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
I can confirm that most of our patients suddenly got healed with no explanation whatsoever.
That is... Concerning... When it comes to healers available in the bay, first that comes to mind is Apeiron, but he wouldn't just be healing people for free, esp in such an inconspicuous way... Considering Kung Fu had a minor stranger ability, we might be talking a couple grabbag capes? Stranger, Physical Enhancement, Hammerspace, and Healer. Actually might just be Stranger, Hammerspace, and Healer. Self-healing could allow one to push themselves to Kung Fu's strength, no?
@ InsertUsername, you have a point. I think that's either some sort of club on a stick, or a spear, but yeah not enough glow and shit. If those are tinkertech weapons, that might just add to my Grabbag theory. If they are all working together, the weird shit were seeing would make sense. More capes, but more heroes. Or I suppose Vigilantes. Same thing, really.
►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Yeah, may have jumped the gun a little too fast with the gunbladestaffwhatever being Apetech, is just that even with all the blur it looks cool, somehow. And we all know ApeManIron specialty is "make it look cool"
@ MemeticLectern It could be grab bags, for what I know they seem to have similar or same-ish enough powers to Capes in the same city, so if the rumored maybe Cape maybe ghost rescuing people is real, we could have two new strangers in the city...... Which would be scary, ngl.
@ Theological Trasher We call it afternoon.
►ScienceHippo (Original Poster) (Unverified Ungulate)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ TraderbyTrade See, you're making a joke, but that's surprisingly accurate for the Bay. But even for the Bay, this was pretty rough. I was talking with my wife and her parents last night and this might be the worst it's been since the Nine last came through. My wife and I were practically kids when that happened and even we remember how rough that was.
I've always wondered what kind of horror show our town seems like to the outside. I imagine most people on PHO who hear about the Bay think we're all full of crap.
►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ ScienceHippo It wasn't a joke. I swear every fucking time this city get worse and worse just when things seems to calm down or plateau a little. And don't bring the fucking 9 up again. Please.
Anyway, we got confirmation of the Merchant Cape, we got confirmation of the Kung Fu guy (as little as we still know about him), a possible maybe Cape, maybe hoax, that seems to be helping on the rescue efforts, another maybe new Cape apparently going to the hospitals and healing people.
With how this city works I'm actually surprised we only got one villain out of 3-maybe-4 Capes....
►Crucifix Gravitas
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Maybe the mystery healer wasn't a cape, but a guardian angel?
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ TraderbyTrade, that still can be Apetech. I doubt it, because afaik he's not willing to sell anything currently. Though, maybe that's just because one need to approach him in person?..
Anyway, I just said that we shouldn't focus on one option from many.
I've always wondered what kind of horror show our town seems like to the outside. I imagine most people on PHO who hear about the Bay think we're all full of crap.
Can confirm that. ;P
Seriously, tho - more likely "Thanks God I'm not living there."
►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Well, one is a Ward on vacation from the other side of the country (btw, does that look suspicious only to me?), so she won't stay for long, and not really counts as a Bay cape, I think. But still - good for you.
I mean the Merchant guy, Kung Fu guy, whoever is healing people, and that rumored Cape rescuing people. 1 villain, 3 at least vigilantes.
@ Crucifix Gravitas We already have one, and is with the PRT doing who knows what. #ReleasePanacea
So, some people over this thread have been cleaning some of Kung Fu guy's footage at nest they could (compilation here). Admitably, it's still pretty aweful quality, phone cameras aren't that good to begin with, but this one here shows that his gunbladestaff mid transformation.
Doesn't really clarifies if it's tech, power or a combination of both though.
Damn, does that scarf look cool though
►Crucifix Gravitas
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ TraderbyTrade you're talking about Panacea, right? And whats with the hashtag? I haven't been able to keep up with all the news, been distracted by fighting near where I live.
@ InsertUsername
Well, one is a Ward on vacation from the other side of the country (btw, does that look suspicious only to me?)
Apeiron is rumored to have healing tech that can help monstrous capes. Perhaps she came here on the off chance she could get help?
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Apeiron is rumored to have healing tech that can help monstrous capes.
Well, on the one hand, running in the "Blighted Bay" in the pursuit of the rumors seems desperate.
On the other - I can see why monster capes could be desperate. After all, most healers can't do shit for them, afaik (like, "sorry, but that's not an injury or disease, so kindly fuck off"). And I can't name any biotinker or biokinetic whose power possibly can help, and who friendly enough to ask for that. Like, there's some people who somewhat friendly, like Booboost from Texas, but that guy only can enhance someone's physique for a short time, and enlarge boobs. Not someone you will ask for a complete remodeling one's body. On the other side we have "Oh Fuck" kind of people, like Bonesaw, who maybe can help, but I doubt anyone can be desperate enough to ask her.
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►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ Crucifix Gravitas Here is the thread over that whole...... ordeal, let's say.
So, first? Please don't call them "monstrous". I know some are pretty..... out there, but that doesn't mean they should be called that. Second, *sigh* how to say this, when people are desperate enough, any kind of hint or hope will be held as tightly as one can. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and all that. If the IronManApe is said to be able to Apetech away whatever make the C53 C53s, them expect them to come by the truckload. Let's just hope they don't add more numbers to the criminals.
And this isn't a thread to discuss that anyway, just what we know about the 2 maybe 3 maybe 4 new Capes.
►ghostofgreen
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
maybe one of the new Capes have or already join Apeiron team?
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
He's hiring? O_O
►LethalPainter
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Kung Fu guy and the mystery healer probably got their hands on some three day old Apeiron technology. Who knows what you can find in his trash?
►ScienceHippo (Original Poster) (Unverified Ungulate)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ LethalPainter There's an idea...
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
three day old Apeiron tech
I, for one, still think that he bluffed. Maybe not about the speed of his improvement, but at least about his willingness to throw away his tech. Because no matter how fast one can work, that's easier and faster, usually, to upgrade something instead of building new. And also there's materials. Unless my guess is true, he can't have unlimited resources.
►Chupacabras (Verified Cape)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
You bet your colective asses we Case 53 are desperate enought to go all the way to Nazi central if that means help.
I can't make contact with Apeiron but i am on rute.
I left a picture of myself
here please don't shoot first and ask cuestions after (i have enoght of that in Texas thanks)
In my country i have a transport bussines can make temporal interconected portals so if someone wants out of the Bay i intent to talk with Boston PRT to left one end there and conect it to PRT BB for transport of relief supplies and evacuate people.
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ Chupacabras... First thing first - thanks for warning.
Second thing second - you have my sincere wishes for success in your search.
Anyway, to not derail the thread even further, does someone know about the patients the "mysterious healer" healed? Was there anyone among them with genetic diseases? If so, maybe that's another option to look for for people like Gully and Chupacabras.
►ScienceHippo (Original Poster) (Unverified Ungulate)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
I haven't heard anything about that, and I doubt anyone would have thought to check with all the chaos. Most I've heard was for things like broken bones and such, and again, a lot of that is hearsay. @ CorEagle's response about the local hospital being cleared out is the first real indicator of real healing and not just trauma talking. Not to doubt them, but 'Verify, then Trust', ya know?
►GymRock
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ MemeticLectern I saw it when he knocked out @ HaiFuPP for being an ABB member waving a gun around. It looked kinda like some other tinker copying Apeiron's transformers copy. Like… work of art, one thing turning into another, but totally different style.
—Mod Edit: Let's not accuse each other of being gang members without proof.
►Sothoth
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
Speaking of Kung Fu guy... I saw him get shot at and I swear I saw a weird shimmer around him before the bullets fell. Brute/Shaker hybrid?
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ Sothoth, I'd suspect a forcefield of some sort, i.e. either Brute, of tinkertech.
Another option, if that guy is really have Hammerspace power, he might be able to "catch" everything in contact with him, of near enough. So, Striker. Though, one need a really fucking impressive reaction time to catch a bullet, so either Thinker power, or automatic response from his power, without his control.
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►SeekerOfStars
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ InsertUsername I can confirm the guy is using a Force-Field, a pair of skinheads showered him with lead and it only get a little ligth show. Picture here, here and here.
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ SeekerOfStars, thanks for photos and info.
Damn, that guy FAST. Like, look at the second photo - he blurring like some movie character! I know that's partly because of the camera quality, but not only.
Mover for sure.
►TraderbyTrade
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
......Am I the only one who gets some weird dejavu over Kung Fu Master's (can't call that just Guy now can we
) force field? I swear I have seen it before.
►InsertUsername (Verified User)
Replied On Apr 27th 2011:
@ TraderbyTrade, that's possible. Personal forcefields, while not common, not that rare. So maybe there was some Cape with similar power.
Also, as I said, he might be someone who decided to rebrand and start anew. I can't remember anyone close enough, though. But that's a point of rebranding, after all.
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