Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

"Equipable ally" isn't something you would normally think, even in a place like Bet, and while GG have shown she can fight, her more esoteric qualities aren't even in concideration
My first thoughts: "What? What does Glory Girl have to do with it? And what "esoteric qualities" he talking about? But more importantly, why is GG an "equipable"?!.. Wiat, am I on QQ now somehow?! :o "
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I just realized (and was surprised that no one realized this, or didn't raise this topic before, at least on SV), that with Hestia's Blessing, Joe will, most likely, give much more importance to the "home" thing. Before he treatened his built-in apartments (i.e. apartments in the workshop) mastly as "thats where I'm sleeping".

I think it was supposed to be "Garment Gloves" not "Glory Girl" :V
I figured, yes. But only after train of thoughts that I've listed in previous comment.

edit: made it more clear about what apartmemts I'm talking.
 
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I just realized (and was surprised that no one realized this, or didn't raise this topic before, at least on SV), that with Hestia's Blessing, Joe will, most likely, give much more importance to the "home" thing. Before he treatened his built-in apartments mastly as "thats where I'm sleeping".


I figured, yes. But only after train of thoughts that I've listed in previous comment.
That's because resting your head isn't the only qualifier to make someplace home. His apartment is still his apartment out of convenience/societal necessity. His civilian ID still needs a listed residence and while he has unlimited resources, that doesn't mean he has unlimited funds. If he had an easy option to move out of that apartment he would, easily. The apartment is not his home, his workshop is his home. He sleeps there, eats there, works there, entertains friends and family there, it's where he's comfortable and safe, where he's most relaxed, when he can find the time to relax. That's why when his clones lit the hearth fire it was in the workshop and not his rinky dink apartment.

That being said, he's going to need money to keep said rinky dink apartment. How will he do that? I can't see him taking money from fixing Case 53s, especially if he can't completely fix them. I'm also not sure on if he'd be willing to actually sell his tech. The only reason he did so doe the undersides was second hand meta bias and he was almost instantly burned, hard. Yeah he got his money but his tech will permanently be associated with butchering Wards. Of course his tech is associated with much more then poor Aegis nowadays (what a week later? geeze) but that doesn't change his experiences. So, can he sell raw resources? I don't know, flood the californium market? Will his perks make that viable? Would radioactive material decay properly? Considering some of his perks it's ounda like they've all got a muchuch longer half life. (Yes he can do regular healing too, I guess, but what other options besides being the new more expensive Panacea?)
 
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Well, I actually forgot about the place he rents. When I said "built-in apartments" I meant apartments that perks provided. Apartments in the workshop.
Should've wrote it more clear.
Ah, then that would just fold into the workshop wouldn't it? It's all one volcano lair nowadays.
 
Ah, then that would just fold into the workshop wouldn't it? It's all one volcano lair nowadays.
Yep.
But my point is that he didn't thought about a workshop as a whole, nor the apartments it provides, as a home. Safe place, where he can sleep? Yes. But not home.
And that perk, likely, changed that. Or, at least, pushed him toward the change. So, hopefully, he'll be a little healthier mentally.
 
My first thoughts: "What? What does Glory Girl have to do with it? And what "esoteric qualities" he talking about? But more importantly, why is GG an "equipable"?!.. Wiat, am I on QQ now somehow?! :o "
:V

Huh, so that's why I felt like GG sounded familiar....

On the other hand.

*turns down light to make a sinister atmosphere*

Pretty sure that if Joe goes deep enough in his wet tinkering he actually could make a meat suit out of Parahumans concious enough to still qualify at being connected to their Shards to artificialy use their powers. Hell, pretty sure he knows enough magitech already to be able to make items out of Parahumans to do the same thing.

Yep.
But my point is that he didn't thought about a workshop as a whole, nor the apartments it provides, as a home. Safe place, where he can sleep? Yes. But not home.
And that perk, likely, changed that. Or, at least, pushed him toward the change. So, hopefully, he'll be a little healthier mentally.

I read that as him finally realizing (or at least the Perk made him realize) that he was already thinking of the Workshop as 'home', which is kinda sweet, but sad at the same time.
 
Actually, now that Garment has her own place, Joe can stop renting and just use Garment's closet door. Alternatively, he should build an invisible houseboat in the Bay. If he's really paranoid, he can make it a little submarine like the one in the Deep cartoon.
 
Actually, now that Garment has her own place, Joe can stop renting and just use Garment's closet door. Alternatively, he should build an invisible houseboat in the Bay. If he's really paranoid, he can make it a little submarine like the one in the Deep cartoon.


.......I mean, he already have a Volcano Fortress Lab, what's a little Nuclear Submarine Lab compared to that. Hell, anime Sherlock Holmes had one with actual Dracula and nukes in it! It being a (soviet) russian submarine is optional though. So is it playing their anthem.

Well then make it an FTL submarine/helicarier/spaceship with Fleet as pilot/driver.

That's also a mech. That's also a gun.
 
Wasn't there a WoG that said that the Reunion with Parian is going to be catastrophic?

Though it likely would be not a physical threat but a mental one like Joe's call with his sister, an interlude where you see the invisible Apeiron break down would be very interesting.
IIRC, it would be a very big deal, not just for Joe and Parian, but for others who see/hear of it and pick up some of the context.
And just want to point out, whatever we might be thinking of, Lord took fanon Uber and Leet, decided it would be bore him to do the usual thing, and gave us a version I'd never even heard of before.
 
IIRC, it would be a very big deal, not just for Joe and Parian, but for others who see/hear of it and pick up some of the context.
And just want to point out, whatever we might be thinking of, Lord took fanon Uber and Leet, decided it would be bore him to do the usual thing, and gave us a version I'd never even heard of before.

Well I can only hope that it's a big deal in a positive way. That the meeting will result in a reconciliation or if that's not possible, at least a catharsis for both Sabah and Joe. They may find that they have a lot in common and could be true friends. It makes sense to me that after Joe is healed physically, the next step would be to get closure and heal psychologically.
 
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Can't really find it right now , but theres 2 wogs for the pariah meeting
One for joe and another for garment
Joe one would be them both thinking that they made the other trigger etc

The garment one is the more "fun" one
Garment being the superior to her in any may ( number of dresses made , quality , knowledge , materials, etc ) she can't compete and will find it super unfair
Also will be salty that joe got in with her+
 
Well I can only hope that it's a big deal in a positive way. That the meeting will result in a reconciliation or if that's not possible, at least a catharsis for both Sabah and Joe. They may find that they have a lot in common and could be true friends. It makes sense to me that after Joe is healed physically, the next step would be to get closure and heal psychologically.

Pretty sure it was a big deal in that both were part of the problem that ultimately lead to each other trigger. Not the cause, but played a part on it.

Can't really find it right now , but theres 2 wogs for the pariah meeting
One for joe and another for garment
Joe one would be them both thinking that they made the other trigger etc

The garment one is the more "fun" one
Garment being the superior to her in any may ( number of dresses made , quality , knowledge , materials, etc ) she can't compete and will find it super unfair
Also will be salty that joe got in with her+

Yeah, we know that they weren't really the reason for it, but they don't, and with how Joe act about everything Trigger related (be it his or others) it will probably mess him up hard. As for Sabah, well, tbh I don't really know a lot about her pre-leviathan, Worm Fatigue hitted me kinda hard by Behemoth and stopped reading there, so I can't really give an opinion about it.

Hell, I don't really know how well know Parian actually is, only remember that she was a known Rogue. Not even sure if her having a shop was actually a part of canon exagerated for fics or just fanon.
 
Hell, I don't really know how well know Parian actually is, only remember that she was a known Rogue. Not even sure if her having a shop was actually a part of canon exagerated for fics or just fanon.
The shop is fanon. Just like Coil's company was never called fortress industries, or the Winslow administration covering for Sophia because they get money from her being here. Coil's company was never named, they were willing to throw Taylor under the bus before Sophia became a ward and Parian only did some advertisement and Puppet shows on the board walk, she was still in college.

Edit: That being said, Fortress Industries is a cool name, the fact that they weren't even getting paid to throw her under the bus makes them worse in my eyes and a legal business legitimately run by a cape is just good world building.
 
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IIRC, it would be a very big deal, not just for Joe and Parian, but for others who see/hear of it and pick up some of the context.
And just want to point out, whatever we might be thinking of, Lord took fanon Uber and Leet, decided it would be bore him to do the usual thing, and gave us a version I'd never even heard of before.
Technically Lord gave us a version of Uber and Leet closer to canon. They were willing to work with the ABB during the bombing spree and they later were willing to work with Coil. They weren't good people. The aspects that Lord added was Leet's backstory and trigger (which is great) and the angle of Leet being manipulated and pushed to do worse by Uber (and March). The part about Uber mastering mental rationalization techniques that make him more sociopathic also seems to be something Lord added.

The wiki has:
Both Über and Leet are demonstrated to be despicable human beings, having no problems with beating prostitutes on the street to gain online viewers.[3] Leet himself owns several t-shirts that are deliberately shocking, examples being one mocking Endbringer victims and another depicting obscene sexual imagery.[4]

He considers Über to be his friend and trusts him as such.[5] This feeling is reciprocated by Über, which is likely the reason he continues to work with Leet despite continual failures.

The T-Shirt stuff is from Leet Quest and the one mocking Endbringer victims say "Endbringer victims bitch too much" in all caps and is in his luggage.

Most depictions of Uber and Leet that I see that try going closer to canon meaning avoiding the fanon route of making them fun harmless nerds has them be sociopaths with Leet being the one leading the bad behavior. Note that there's not a lot of details in canon about Uber and Leet so most put their spin and interpretation to things.

That being said, he's going to need money to keep said rinky dink apartment. How will he do that?
WoG has it that the planned direction is to have Joe work for Garment or at her shop and get his legal money that way.
 
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We appear to be stuck in a loop.

The example serves to highlight the concept. It is not the point in it self.

The Concept of a Mission Kill is that assets may be removed from play at a tactical scale, while not necessarily rendering them strategically useless.

Correct me if I'm wrong; you are talking about damage to non-core parts of an endbringer, and saying that while it wouldn't kill them, it might disable them? Thus being a mission kill.

That would indeed be the case - BUT. All endbringers weigh an unimaginable amount. Like, a whole solar system, or even a galaxy worth of matter, in terms of density. But they don't sink through the floor, which means they're offsetting that somehow. If they can do that, they could just lift themselves off the ground as a limbless nugget. Any time you see an endbringer look like an injury is hindering them, they're just playing it up so they seem potentially defeatable.

So while you're 100% right about what a could constitute a mission kill as a concept, you're 100% wrong in saying damage to the body of an endbringer would be a mission kill.
 
WoG has it that the planned direction is to have Joe work for Garment or at her shop and get his legal money that way.
I figured as much but it's good to have confirmation. Plus if he's working for Garment he can attribute a lot of his strangeness to Garment. Like the designer clothes, Garment refuses to have her employees in anything drab, employee discount, plus free advertising. Or stuff he sets up looking so nice, oh, Garment told him how to set everything up to be fabulous! Involved in cape stuff? Stuff spilled over to Garment's shop while he was on his shift.
 
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