Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

I just want to preface this by saying that I am definitely still greatly enjoying this story, and none of this will cause me to change my Wednesday evening habit of checking SV every 15 minutes or so.

I think that one factor that has contributed to some of the difficulty in pacing is that the rate of power growth is possibly too high. Aperion goes through 2 or 3 complete game changer power boosts between each major plot point. That makes it harder to plan on the future, and the last minute shifts makes it so you are having to adapt on the run much more often. It probably doesn't help that sometimes, by the time Aperion has finished pondering his new power, he is already halfway to the next new one. I think that the rate worked well earlier on when he was starting from nothing, but with how the powers all have compounding effects, there are so many drastic shifts in his power level and capabilities that keeping up with it is hard (and of course it means that something that seems like it should be major can get overshadowed before it gets a chance to be shown off in practice). It might be worth considering reducing the frequency of power growth now that Aperion has reached a fairly high level. He can still improve over time, but I suspect there are also a lot of things from earlier powers that he just never explored that could still boost him without being a new power.

The other problem is that to compensate for his massive growth rate, you have had to pile more problems and adversaries on top of each other, rather than having him deal with them sequentially. While this is good for keeping him challenged (time being his biggest problem), it makes it harder to balance all of them. This story isn't really following the more traditional worm fanfic arc structure, because it is just more problems all getting piled on at once to give him a challenge before the earlier ones get solved.

I'm not sure if slowing down his power growth would hurt your ability to write (I know you have said it helps you maintain your rate), but it might worth thinking about trying reducing the growth rate for a bit. That would give you some time when things are less unstable to fix up any of the things you think might be causing some of the structural problems, which might help. Or you could just keep going as is, and I will still enjoy the ride. I don't really know how well qualified to give writing advice, but it is something to think about.
 
In order to take it, he would have had to tell his duplicates to dispel (only one active potion at at time!), wait for them to dispel, and then drink the potion. I'm not sure he had all that time available.
Mixing Mixtures would be most useful in that regard. 6 duplis flying around while Joe is coated in 10 invulnerability feilds.
 
Our Lord has spoken! Neat.

Seriously, Lord one of the greatest authors when it comes to interacting with the community. It best shows on AO3, but also shines through post like these. Truly astonishing.

So is anyone want to talk about how imagining Gun-EZ with organic face can give you nightmares? Because it gives me nightmares. And i want to share them.
 
I really appreciate the clarifications and you addressing the comments Lord. No matter what, I still stand by of this fic being something great. That being said, I'll probably be dropping this. Seing the spoiled outcome of the fight, idk I just felt...dissapointed is probably the best term. Maybe when it's has a few more chapters I'll take a look and see how it's gone. Thanks for writing.
 
I don't remember if Chen was ever described in detail but, this pic. How close am I imagining him like this?
 
Thanks for the clarification, this is one of the best fics I have ever read, I loved the tech and I loved commenting on the story but knowing the clarification and result really burns me out so I will probably take a break from the fic.
 
Still reading the comments^^. But let me say already which someone probably already did. A MegaGod with all the mecha, art and etc; Yeah there will be very happy skulls, very happy indeed^^.

A God Machine Above other God Machines that grown with experience (probably also believe at some point) and other stuff magical stuff. They will demand where these guys are coming from with even more fancy scrolls/books/hymms. Probably throw holy machine oil at him to please him and get him to share the shinny data :D
 
Gotta say, I don't think Zombie!March ever came up as a theory before that spoiler post, and it's actually a very interesting direction to take the whole situation. It's almost straight out of a Marvel/DC plotline and I absolutely love it. The fact that her greatest, grandest plan ever created was obliterated and left her only technically qualifying as 'alive' is a fantastic bestowal of consequences.
 
All this time, ABB has amassed more power, Bakuda has built up her arsenal and stolen tech, new capes stream in to town and the response and the threat presented by Joes adversaries keeps getting bigger. And he's still comes out on top, since his power grows really fast. I wouldn't call that "precisely nothing".

People take time to move, so it's entirely possible that even if other groups like S9 might come to Brockton Bay, Joe may well grow so strong by the time they get there, that they pose him no actual threat.
While you present a very good point, I'd like to counter with one of my own: A holding pattern can feel like just spinning your wheels, no matter how much 'progress' you make in order to keep that holding pattern stable. I like the fact that he's kept on prepping, and prepping, and making fantastic new innovations, but when it feels like just barely enough to keep an inch ahead of everyone else, it doesn't really feel as special as it should. I'd go as far as to say it could feel like he just wasted his time. That seems to be the gist of the complaints I've seen on here, more or less.

'Joe could do so many amazing things, but that'll never work to any significant advantage despite their amazing nature because March/Contessa/Jack Slash/Coil/Parian/Dragon/The PRT/Mannequin/Bonesaw/Crawler/Manton/The Simurgh/Zion/Leviathan/Shardspace/Shards/[Insert Reason Here] exists at all.'

All that being said, I'm still enjoying the story. My expectations have been set to never expect a total victory for Joe anymore, though. At this rate, he's probably gonna go the route he was originally meant to, only a lot louder - Lines crossed (Already happened: Clearly displayed S-Class technologies in the massive fight in the bay), kill order, summary execution (at this point, likely by a gathering of heroes comparable to an Endbringer attack). Or he'll pull a miracle out of nowhere to subvert some steps there, buy himself time to continue trying to escalate and maintain a holding pattern of being a tenth of a step ahead of everyone else. Or I'm completely off-base and Lord's got something clever planned out that won't be thrown off by all the random perk rolls.

Whether the pattern continues or breaks, the results are going to be highly interesting, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless of direction taken.
 
Wow a Lord statement so soon. Mm well...
I am happy that Lord came out to clarify his intentions in the chapter but I am still annoyed about March, she survived all that with her luck(plot armor) and somehow stays alive. I knew she was a plot device too useful to get rid off but damn is she annoying. I know that regardless of anything I may say she will keep being part of the story but PLEASE at least leave her out for a while, I am tired of the 4D chess game they have been playing the last few chapters. So if she just stays in the bench for a few arcs I would be pretty happy.
 
While the spoiler of March's ultimate condition from this chapter helped ease my worries, what really cleared my doubts is you explicitly taking responsibility for the plot of your story.
A lot of authors who use an antagonist like this suddenly start pretending that the Dolylist perspective of their story doesn't exist, and that personally frustrates me a lot more than anything they were writing at the time.
I might have to reread to make sure this isn't just a baseless feeling I'm getting, but if I had to complain about something, it would be how March seemingly gets ignored by Joe as soon as she's off screen, not just in this chapter, but you've done a good job of making him very fallible for all his powers give him a leg up, so it doesn't feel incredibly out of place.
 
I have enjoyed and am enjoying the story too much to drop the story. I'm glad the next chapter will address my own misgivings. As for the fate of March...
It seems really contrived, that her sting power is also working as a path to victory so much so that she can use someone else's magical tinker tech to keep herself alive. Like, what? Makes no sense.

If you had said she had some Leet-tech to keep her alive, to teleport her to safety, had a gangster loyal enough to drag her to safety, had Leet himself come out and save her, or even have a Fleet vehicle go and pick her up to save her, that would have made perfect sense. Very sensible for her to have countermeasures for any danger she enters, or for Jozef's creations to take initiative. But even with a hundred ways to save March for later, this is completely out there.

I really look forward to you making this plot point coherent, lol.
 
Yeaaaaaaaa. Called it about March's Fate. Honestly loved the story but when the author himself says this is his decision to move the characters in the ways they move and March ends up like that, it removes any hope of ANY decisive victory for the future.
Lung got hit with FTL tech and the author wont even admit hes dead, instead sidestepping into maybe dead maybe cauldron. Oni lee escapes and got to a clinic, March pullls the same anime keikakuru bullshit and gets away again. Bakuda doesn't start triggering the bombs in the civilians even though the ABB is dead in the water.
The story feels like the author is too scared to draw the line and actually make consequences. Loved the story but something was always bugging me about it and now I know. There are no significant consequences for anyone that the author is willing to commit to.
 
So.
Basically March is inside not!hell now, not a problem anymore as she could get a way out of it. Unless she came back as a Titan there isn't doubt that the threat has finally reached its end, hopefully this would finally the thread move to the important stuff

I am seriously surprised that after rolling the perk that allows Garmed the absolute best girl of the series get a body there weren't reactions about it. Like damn, this mono focused hatred really distracted most of the positive things that have been obtained from this chapter.

With the perks, Apeiron will be recorded in PHO as the Dino Ninja Jesus. God, the memes come so easily.

Edit: Is a thing mine or Victoria's friends and family will end shitting a brick about a 'what if' Apeiron was pissed out by her actions when she attacked him on the first meeting and unleashed his true form at her. Her addendum will be amazing to read next week.
 
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While I am glad that Lord has replied to our concerns, and alleviated some of my concerns with where the story has headed, the reveal about March doesn't feel right to me:

March had her arm shattered and almost ripped off, as well as internal organ damage as well as her other broken bones. She'd be dead from blood loss in about 30 seconds, and even before then she'd have trouble thinking due to low blood pressure meaning her heart can barely pump blood around her body. How was she alive and aware long enough to crawl somewhere and use her striker power on an the motoroid?
 
I have enjoyed and am enjoying the story too much to drop the story. I'm glad the next chapter will address my own misgivings. As for the fate of March...
It seems really contrived, that her sting power is also working as a path to victory so much so that she can use someone else's magical tinker tech to keep herself alive. Like, what? Makes no sense.

If you had said she had some Leet-tech to keep her alive, to teleport her to safety, had a gangster loyal enough to drag her to safety, had Leet himself come out and save her, or even have a Fleet vehicle go and pick her up to save her, that would have made perfect sense. Very sensible for her to have countermeasures for any danger she enters, or for Jozef's creations to take initiative. But even with a hundred ways to save March for later, this is completely out there.

I really look forward to you making this plot point coherent, lol.
March has more than sting. Her main power is a thinker power that allows her to co-ordinate and time perfectly, she just has sting and better aim from the other members of her cluster(Flechette & Homer).
She wanted the gateway to shardspace more than anything, wanting to be immortal in it and all. I suspect she has done something with her shard, possibly going Noctis, which has allowed her to stay alive, if she's not stuck in shardspace now.
She's gone from this arc for a fact, and will not be showing up for a while.
 
Yeaaaaaaaa. Called it about March's Fate. Honestly loved the story but when the author himself says this is his decision to move the characters in the ways they move and March ends up like that, it removes any hope of ANY decisive victory for the future.
Lung got hit with FTL tech and the author wont even admit hes dead, instead sidestepping into maybe dead maybe cauldron. Oni lee escapes and got to a clinic, March pullls the same anime keikakuru bullshit and gets away again. Bakuda doesn't start triggering the bombs in the civilians even though the ABB is dead in the water.
The story feels like the author is too scared to draw the line and actually make consequences. Loved the story but something was always bugging me about it and now I know. There are no significant consequences for anyone that the author is willing to commit to.
Dude. Lung is gone. Author confirmation that he is never coming back. Oni Lee is in robot standby mode with crippling injuries. Bakuda has super-cancer in place of multiple limbs. And March? March is now a flipping zombie. Maybe if you only look at pure mechanical function, and cape life, there are little to no consequences, but their personal livelihoods and effective powerbases have been destroyed. Their bodies and sanities are in tatters, and they're not getting help anytime soon.
 
ABB is finished
YES! YES! YES!
It's the first time that the ABB undoing make me feel the same happiness than the death of Coil or S9. Can't wait for comfy slice of life that come next! Until leviathan arrive, that is.
 
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Actually I forgot to compliment the chapter.

When I was reading the story, I usually have a minds of thing like a movie or something. This chapter clearly shifter the style of that movie from a Ironman esque MCU to a goddammit Gurren Lagan sequel.

So props for capturing that feeling there lord.
 
So... technically March is not dead but wont be factor for the time being?

Whatever, MARCH IS GONE CRAB.
RAVE.
Edit: SORRY I FORGOT AHHHHHHH
 
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Dude. Lung is gone. Author confirmation that he is never coming back. Oni Lee is in robot standby mode with crippling injuries. Bakuda has super-cancer in place of multiple limbs. And March? March is now a flipping zombie. Maybe if you only look at pure mechanical function, and cape life, there are little to no consequences, but their personal livelihoods and effective powerbases have been destroyed. Their bodies and sanities are in tatters, and they're not getting help anytime soon.
And again, March is gone from this arc for a while. Oni Lee is out of play completely, unless Bakuda hails marry and super-cancers him too, but I'm not sure he could handle that with his brain issues. Two massive force multipliers gone. Lung is dead, and only Bakuda really remains. Bakuda has been shown up though, so doubtful she'll stick for long.
 
@LordRoustabout -TLDR: don't need to stress on reader opinion, only if you want to-

Thank you for responding everyone's concerns, and offering a spoiler for next week. It is a really nice thing and helps with audience engagement.

I just want to remind you that if it ever becomes too stressful that you can just say 'Author Fiat', and ignore anyone who argues. Reader feedback can sometimes go sour and I don't want you feeling like you have to bear the weight of every opinion of every reader. I'm mentioning this because some really good writers (like Cliff999) ended up having issues with some of their readers and had to drop some of their best stories.

You are doing great! The callout about your 'Author Fiat' was a really good idea.
 
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