Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Aisha's age is unchanged; she just has an education that would terrify the most dedicated of polymaths and four years of high school to perfect her distracted genius affect, maybe graduate early, and really scare some colleges by double-majoring art and physics.

What she doesn't have is several extra years of life experience; dealing with people her own age, dealing with people who think they're smarter than her just because they're older, and dealing with people who don't believe she deserves everything she's working for, just because she's poor/black/a girl.
Yes and no. She has spent a lot of time in the Spiritron Computer and in the workshop under time manipulation, though how much of that counts is up for debate.
 
Aisha is probably oddly lopsided developmentally. Incredibly knowledgeable and skilled in a vast array of subjects. Having experience with many trustworthy, intelligent mentors. Whatever she got as a 13 year old poor black girl who grew up in Brockton Bay. Somehow both very sheltered for her experience and background and not sheltered from what the team is doing.
 
Yes and no. She has spent a lot of time in the Spiritron Computer and in the workshop under time manipulation, though how much of that counts is up for debate.
...did you even read the post before that one?
Aisha is probably oddly lopsided developmentally. Incredibly knowledgeable and skilled in a vast array of subjects. Having experience with many trustworthy, intelligent mentors. Whatever she got as a 13 year old poor black girl who grew up in Brockton Bay. Somehow both very sheltered for her experience and background and not sheltered from what the team is doing.
Aisha has not been sheltered throughout her life lol. Maybe she'd appear sheltered relative to her knowledge, but she's not a sheltered person like.... at all imo.
 
So, in essence, Aisha is between 18-20 years old mentally, but instead of having grown up with other kids, and developed naturally with them, she spent all her time "growing up" alongside other adults (Joe, Garment, Matrix, Joe's dupes, Fleet, Survey, Tetra and Tybalt). She also has had access to way more information about the world that the average teen, as well as instruction on Art, Physics, Engineering and Fashion. At this point, she could probably hold a decent conversation with Hawking and not be too stressed about it.

She's lopsided in that all of her learning was from significantly advanced points of view, and relating directly to another teenager now would be somewhat problematic for her. Understanding them would be possible, but empathising with them would be much more difficult. Even with all of her advancements, Aisha is still gonna Aisha, just in new and different ways.

As far as her being sheltered? Nah, not really. She's been training with Tybalt and reviewing current events with Survey. I'd be more worried about the rest of the world being protected from her. She's probably got a better handle on what's happening around her than any other person in BB regardless of age. Not what I'd call even a little bit sheltered. Extrovert extreme, you just can't remember interacting with her when she's done :)
 
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At this point, she could probably hold a decent conversation with Hawking and not be too stressed about it.
If her own works with energy shields and eldrich impossible colours plus whatever casual chemistry she was doing with detox are any indication, I think SHE can read lectures to Hawking at this point. Which is kinda pushes her even more far away from her peers.
 
If her own works with energy shields and eldrich impossible colours plus whatever casual chemistry she was doing with detox are any indication, I think SHE can read lectures to Hawking at this point. Which is kinda pushes her even more far away from her peers.

To be fair, when you are at her level of intelligence, who the hell wants to interact with pre/early teens?
 
So, in essence, Aisha is between 18-20 years old mentally,
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She has not been in the serial phantasm that long, I don't think. 15-16 at most. Still quite a bit, but not that much.
She's lopsided in that all of her learning was from significantly advanced points of view, and relating directly to another teenager now would be somewhat problematic for her. Understanding them would be possible, but empathising with them would be much more difficult. Even with all of her advancements, Aisha is still gonna Aisha, just in new and different ways.
She's lopsided in that she could give you a detailed history of the United States and it's political dynamics and how that made Brockton Bay what it is today, but also she'd still struggle to socialize with people her age and still have much of the same emotional reactions of a 13-year-old.
 
So I was going to go back and reread the last chapter and multiqoute a few things to comment on, but I realise I'll never get it done so you get the cliff notes.

This whole chapter gave me flashbacks to the times I've gone in for surgery and other things of similar nature. It captured a lot of the uncertainty and sort-of dread that comes with trusting another person to do something invasive to your body in the hopes of fixing something you've been dealing with for months (or years, in the case of Gully) and hoping the procedure will actually make you better and not worse off.

I can foresee Gully being really happy about her new circumstances, but at the same time having to deal with a host of new problems as unintentional side effects, like being either impractically short or impractically tall, with (temporarily) no in-between state.
 
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She has not been in the serial phantasm that long, I don't think. 15-16 at most. Still quite a bit, but not that much.

She's lopsided in that she could give you a detailed history of the United States and it's political dynamics and how that made Brockton Bay what it is today, but also she'd still struggle to socialize with people her age and still have much of the same emotional reactions of a 13-year-old.
Don't forget, the temporal 10k:1 dilation effect when she's "inside" the workshop. If she's spent more than 2hrs realtime in the workshop, she's already gained over 2 years physical age. Adding that onto her spiritron time pushes her up into the 18-20 age range.

Anyone know if LR has kept track of her time in the workshop when it's accelerated? And/or when she's in Spiritron space? Now I'm really curious to see if I'm close to right or not...
 
Uh, 2 hours at 1:10 is 20 hours. That's less than a day, never mind a year. She's not in the core for that time afaik. They do movie night in five minutes in the core but everything else is just workshop time.
 
But 2 hours at 1:10k (aka 10 000) is 20 000 hours, or ~2,28 years.
Yes, but that's not relevant.
Temporal Controls (Personal Reality) 200:
This Personal Reality Option gives you control over how fast time flows in your Personal Reality while you're not there. The default is 1:1, but with this you can dial it anywhere from 1:10 to 10:1. Remember, this doesn't work when you're in the warehouse.
 
110.1 Interlude Gully

squeeeee~

So, I've mentioned before that my favorite part of this story is the character work.
This chapter hasn't dethroned 8.1 as my favorite, but I've been sitting here reading this and unabashedly grinning my face off the entire time.
(Well done. Gully's not had a huge amount of screentime (at least, relative to the whole), but enough to have gotten a sense of her, and this chapter was just a delight.
Though, honestly, outside perspectives on the Celestial Forge usually are, to a greater or lesser degree.))
 
Poor Gregor; he's gonna have his faith tested. But then, the Angel Fleet prophesied exactly this. So which way is he going to go? Rave at the unfairness of it all, or become Apeiron's first priest?
 
Poor Gregor; he's gonna have his faith tested. But then, the Angel Fleet prophesied exactly this. So which way is he going to go? Rave at the unfairness of it all, or become Apeiron's first priest?
Even worse by the time he hears about this (probably next morning), the S9 would've been destroyed and the Celestial Forge would be healing all of their victims. At that point, he would certainly both need more patience after seeing all those people healed and patience to deal with the rest of the Case 53s who had just heard about Gully along with him.

On the bright side though, maybe at that point Gully and Weld would both be able to help him? Gully of course as the first one fully healed, and Weld to show that Weld was willing to put the rest of the Case 53s ahead of himself.
I hope the shovel has some thinker-dampening on it or the think tanks are going to start chewing the walls trying to make any sense of this.
Thinking about this, there's probably a reason why Joe hasn't put any anti Thinker protections on the gifts he gave Gully and Flechette. The entire point of waiting for the S9 is to not reveal his anti Thinker spoofing quite yet - and unlike in the case of his gift to Uppercrust, what he gave them would certainly get studied as much as possible by the PRT. Adding anti Thinker protections to them would certainly show his hand on that matter to the Thinktank.
 
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Thinking about this, there's probably a reason why Joe hasn't put any anti Thinker protections on the gifts he gave Gully and Flechette. The entire point of waiting for the S9 is to not reveal his anti Thinker spoofing quite yet - and unlike in the case of his gift to Uppercrust, what he gave them would certainly get studied as much as possible by the PRT. Adding anti Thinker protections to them would certainly show his hand on that matter to the Thinktank.

Except it was gifted to Gully who is on leave and it probably has the Miss Militia's power thing so they can't take it off her and might not even dare to.
 
Except it was gifted to Gully who is on leave and it probably has the Miss Militia's power thing so they can't take it off her and might not even dare to.
They sure as hell going to ask her nicely to allow them check it and lets be real, what reasons Gully has to say them no? They not taking it away permanently or damaging it or anything and probably going to return it the moment she asks for it (assuming shovel itself wont just jump to her as you said).
 
For all we know, the items he gifted will cheerfully respond to any kind of Thinker scans made.
Like Gully's shovel will happily and sincerely proclaim "I'm Shovel!" when scanned.
 
Except it was gifted to Gully who is on leave and it probably has the Miss Militia's power thing so they can't take it off her and might not even dare to.
Except if it's protecting Gully from Thinkers like its purpose would be if it was added then it would be very clear that some anti-Thinker protection was added, especially now that people are looking out for it after March.
 
They sure as hell going to ask her nicely to allow them check it and lets be real, what reasons Gully has to say them no? They not taking it away permanently or damaging it or anything and probably going to return it the moment she asks for it (assuming shovel itself wont just jump to her as you said).

She needs it to have her civilian form so it's unlikely she'll want to be parted from it especially since it's the national office who is dealing with it so it'd be gone for a while plus Gully is fully aware how even more rabid than usual the tinkers are being over dust so it's pretty likely it's going to go the normal way of her not getting it back if she gives it and it doesn't have Miss Militia's power. Again tho she got that as part of her contract with him so they probably won't dare to actually take it.

Except if it's protecting Gully from Thinkers like its purpose would be if it was added then it would be very clear that some anti-Thinker protection was added, especially now that people are looking out for it after March.

I'm not part of that conversation so it isn't a factor in my statement as I personally doubt it would have thinker protection.
 
Again tho she got that as part of her contract with him so they probably won't dare to actually take it.
They could also just ask her politely to come into one of Armsmaster's labs and let him study the shovel. Or in the case of Flechette, order her since she is indeed still in their jurisdiction. So long as it doesn't cross the line to "imprisonment" as Lethe put it and they don't ask too many details about the contracts according to Apeiron, there's still plenty of things they could ask.
 
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