Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Even if they did, he didn't say what sort of resources and I bet they won't guess "social interaction with pretty blondes" is a vital and carefully husbanded asset.

In other news, assuming The Plan goes off without a hitch, coil ends up in prison and the Undersiders disband, how are they going to rehabilitate Taylor's image into that of a hero?
Straight up rebrand? "What? No! This bug controlling cape with the terrifying mien is nothing to do with that other bug controlling cape with the equally but slight differently terrifying affect, don't be silly!" *sweats profusely*
Just roll with the cover story? "Ah yes, Aegis totally volunteered to be chopped to pieces on live television to sell Khepri's 'villain' persona to Coil *mumbles* even if it was retroactively… ahem, and of course we kept it off the books; we knew someone was leaking info to Coil, just not that it was Coil in his guise as Thomas Calvert."
Option 3: goofy hat, a fake moustache, and entire continents of audacity. "Introducing, our newest ward, Lady Capri!". (For bonus marks, all of the insects also get tiny holographic goofy hats and fake moustaches too)
 
Way late but i wonder what problem a gun would have that a crossbow wouldn't ?
Not as standard superhero and Wildbow seems to dislike guns for some reason. Also fails to realize how common and deadly they are. Realistically the entire Protectorate lineup for Brockton Bay could probably be killed by a couple people with a gun. Their only brute is Battery and she has a costume that tells you when she's vulnerable.
 
Not as standard superhero and Wildbow seems to dislike guns for some reason. Also fails to realize how common and deadly they are. Realistically the entire Protectorate lineup for Brockton Bay could probably be killed by a couple people with a gun. Their only brute is Battery and she has a costume that tells you when she's vulnerable.
Power armor dude being bulletproof (aside from the famed beard window, but that's a small target) would not be surprising.

I mean, bulletproof doesn't mean you couldn't find a gun that he isn't proof against, but if you have to special order a hero-killer a Barrett AMR isn't that much less of a problem than a tinker gun.
 
Power armor dude being bulletproof (aside from the famed beard window, but that's a small target) would not be surprising.

I mean, bulletproof doesn't mean you couldn't find a gun that he isn't proof against, but if you have to special order a hero-killer a Barrett AMR isn't that much less of a problem than a tinker gun.
Problem is he's limited to meele range. So when he gets pretty close and half his head is uncovered. There is also a reason why it isn't one dude. Granted if hitting his face is too hard, which it might be, there's a weapon that's legal under a hunting exception in real life as what is probably a joke. The gun is 100 pounds and would be overkill for an elephant, better for hunting engine blocks or Armsmasters. Odds are whoever fired the thing would probably break both their wrists but Beardmaster would be dead.
 
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Problem is he's limited to meele range. So when he gets pretty close and half his head is uncovered. There is also a reason why it isn't one dude. Granted if hitting his face is too hard, which it might be, there's a weapon that's legal under a hunting exception in real life as what is probably a joke. The gun is 100 pounds and would be overkill for an elephant, better for hunting engine blocks or Armsmasters. Odds are whoever fired the thing would probably break both their wrists but Beardmaster would be dead.
Yes, it is stupid that Armsmaster doesn't use ranged weapons, but no, that doesn't make just shooting him practical. Shooting someone in the lower half of the face specifically is something that can happen but if you can do it on purpose in combat, you're probably a combat thinker, and while guns are good weapons at halberd range, they're not good weapons for making very narrowly target attacks at halberd range.

I don't know what light artillery piece you're talking about (a punt gun maybe?), but it doesn't really matter: a 100 pound cannon is a ridiculous choice for trying to hit a guy and completely voids the 'guns are common' consideration. You'd be better off picking up an (extremely illegal) recoilless anti-tank rifle, which would at least be remotely possible to move into position.
 
Yes, it is stupid that Armsmaster doesn't use ranged weapons, but no, that doesn't make just shooting him practical. Shooting someone in the lower half of the face specifically is something that can happen but if you can do it on purpose in combat, you're probably a combat thinker, and while guns are good weapons at halberd range, they're not good weapons for making very narrowly target attacks at halberd range.

I don't know what light artillery piece you're talking about (a punt gun maybe?), but it doesn't really matter: a 100 pound cannon is a ridiculous choice for trying to hit a guy and completely voids the 'guns are common' consideration. You'd be better off picking up an (extremely illegal) recoilless anti-tank rifle, which would at least be remotely possible to move into position.
The gun suggestion was mostly a joke. You'd probably be better off leading him into a trap with a ton of explosives or something. Anyway I still think it doesn't really matter because it wouldn't be that hard to kill the entire team except just Armsmaster with easily available guns. With his strange melee restriction there are plent of other weaknesses he has that are easily exploitble. If you really wanted to kill him you might well served by ramming him with a truck. Even if his armor technically isn't damaged by the truck the sudden acceleration and later deceleration might kill him.
 
Not as standard superhero and Wildbow seems to dislike guns for some reason. Also fails to realize how common and deadly they are. Realistically the entire Protectorate lineup for Brockton Bay could probably be killed by a couple people with a gun. Their only brute is Battery and she has a costume that tells you when she's vulnerable.

He's Canadian and wanted to write a verse where most supers were uber low powered so couldn't have guns when they'd all die to them. He also doesn't really seem to get American culture in general and there's lots of stuff people have pointed out in canon that has rather uncomfortable implications of being racist such as how the list of black people is Sophia, Skidmark, Coil, Chariot, Brian, Aisha and their parents.
 
He's Canadian and wanted to write a verse where most supers were uber low powered so couldn't have guns when they'd all die to them. He also doesn't really seem to get American culture in general and there's lots of stuff people have pointed out in canon that has rather uncomfortable implications of being racist such as how the list of black people is Sophia, Skidmark, Coil, Chariot, Brian, Aisha and their parents.
This is why i like stories that make Aisha a hero or get Sophia before she's a monster. Gives us an actual black hero. Also somehow on my original read of Worm I thought Triumph was black. No idea how I came to that conclusion but I was weirded out when I realized he wasn't. Also Coil coming off more as slimy old white guy than black, weird when that was pointed out.
 
I don't know, when he's trying to sell the Undersiders on their Totally Fair Deals Guysᵀᴹ he has some slimy salesman vibes going on. It's also his debut.
Ehhhh. Again, salesman sure. Slimy? Not so much. I seriously dont know how to put into words. There's something different between him and Snail that differs them from one another. They both bastards, they both creeps (Snail likes his "reeducation"). But they are different kinds of creeps.
 
Not as standard superhero and Wildbow seems to dislike guns for some reason. Also fails to realize how common and deadly they are. Realistically the entire Protectorate lineup for Brockton Bay could probably be killed by a couple people with a gun. Their only brute is Battery and she has a costume that tells you when she's vulnerable.
Earth Bet's USA has better gun control. Also Triumph might be bulletproof depending on the caliber of the gun, Dauntless has his shield, Armsmaster's power armor can tank a lot and good luck getting the drop on Velocity in a firefight. Assault is also a Brute btw.
 
This is why i like stories that make Aisha a hero or get Sophia before she's a monster. Gives us an actual black hero. Also somehow on my original read of Worm I thought Triumph was black. No idea how I came to that conclusion but I was weirded out when I realized he wasn't. Also Coil coming off more as slimy old white guy than black, weird when that was pointed out.

Honestly the weirdest thing about Coil is that he's even able to have a civ id because his faction are frankly giants. Average height in America for us is what 5'3 for girls and 5'7 for guys and in Bet is likelier lower especially in the bay given all the Asian refugees. Taylor is 5'7 when she triggers 5'8 at the start of the story 5'9 when she's imprisoned and 5'10 in 2013, Lisa is taller than Taylor to start with but smaller by the end so 5'9, Rachael is around 5'11 from still being taller at the end, Brian is at least 6'8 since he starts at least a foot taller than Taylor and Coil is at least 6'9 since he's noticeably even taller than Brian. Coil also has at least 1 body double so really how is his identity secret the number of 6'9 guys in that city can't be much larger than Coil and his double (s).
 
Earth Bet's USA has better gun control. Also Triumph might be bulletproof depending on the caliber of the gun, Dauntless has his shield, Armsmaster's power armor can tank a lot and good luck getting the drop on Velocity in a firefight. Assault is also a Brute btw.
I feel like if anything Earth Bet USA would have worse gun control. The government is weaker and has less resources. You also have how high the level of crime is.
 
Way late but i wonder what problem a gun would have that a crossbow wouldn't ?
Generally, guns are designed so that you can't touch the bullet before it's fired. She'd have to empower the bullet before loading it, hope it stayed empowered until she needed it — plus remembering to empower the full magazine of bullets before each patrol, and depower them afterwards.

An arbalest or crossbow will have the projectile mounted on top. She can probably touch it fairly easily with a finger or thumb to empower it appropriately for the current situation right before firing.

However, beyond that: a rifled gun works by forcing the bullet through the grooves in the barrel, which causes it to deform as it spins. Lily's power would just wreck the barrel — so, she'd have to be firing a smoothbore. And smoothbore guns usually have a fair amount of spread; it's a mechanical limitation of the design, meaning that a well-trained archer or crossbow-wielder is going to be more accurate. Her power might be able to negate some of the effects leading to that innate inaccuracy, but you'd have to offset that against the possibility of it just wrecking the wadding or patch (ruining the airtight seal necessary to properly accelerate the projectile, and resulting in misfires)

If you're firing power-enhanced super-projectiles, you generally want to minimise the chance of it going off in directions you don't desire.


And then, of course, there's the whole PR and "optics" thing of arming your underaged cadets with live weapons for patrols. Not so much an issue once she moves to the Protectorate, but certainly one while she's still a Ward.
 
Honestly the weirdest thing about Coil is that he's even able to have a civ id because his faction are frankly giants. Average height in America for us is what 5'3 for girls and 5'7 for guys and in Bet is likelier lower especially in the bay given all the Asian refugees. Taylor is 5'7 when she triggers 5'8 at the start of the story 5'9 when she's imprisoned and 5'10 in 2013, Lisa is taller than Taylor to start with but smaller by the end so 5'9, Rachael is around 5'11 from still being taller at the end, Brian is at least 6'8 since he starts at least a foot taller than Taylor and Coil is at least 6'9 since he's noticeably even taller than Brian. Coil also has at least 1 body double so really how is his identity secret the number of 6'9 guys in that city can't be much larger than Coil and his double (s).
Funny, Joe is noted to be taller then Brian even before powers started messing with his body. Which means he was a figurative giant before becoming a literal one. A bit strange how little his height comes up in story, more so considering it would be the most noticeable thing about him before the Forge.
 
Generally, guns are designed so that you can't touch the bullet before it's fired. She'd have to empower the bullet before loading it, hope it stayed empowered until she needed it — plus remembering to empower the full magazine of bullets before each patrol, and depower them afterwards.

An arbalest or crossbow will have the projectile mounted on top. She can probably touch it fairly easily with a finger or thumb to empower it appropriately for the current situation right before firing.

However, beyond that: a rifled gun works by forcing the bullet through the grooves in the barrel, which causes it to deform as it spins. Lily's power would just wreck the barrel — so, she'd have to be firing a smoothbore. And smoothbore guns usually have a fair amount of spread; it's a mechanical limitation of the design, meaning that a well-trained archer or crossbow-wielder is going to be more accurate. Her power might be able to negate some of the effects leading to that innate inaccuracy, but you'd have to offset that against the possibility of it just wrecking the wadding or patch (ruining the airtight seal necessary to properly accelerate the projectile, and resulting in misfires)

If you're firing power-enhanced super-projectiles, you generally want to minimise the chance of it going off in directions you don't desire.


And then, of course, there's the whole PR and "optics" thing of arming your underaged cadets with live weapons for patrols. Not so much an issue once she moves to the Protectorate, but certainly one while she's still a Ward.

If you're talking about Lily Taylor actually gives her her gun for something in canon and to actually empower bullets she has to use her timing and aiming powers to empower the bullet after it's been shot which she can do and have it still hit but she has to touch the bullet after she's shot it so it injures her.
 
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