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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Rick Pickler said:
I'd say it's safe to assume he meant that she'd have to be destroyed completely all in an instant with no part of her still existing for even a nanosecond later.
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You guys need to read the chapter a little more carefully.

LordRoustabout said:
"Most of the time injuries will heal faster than they can be inflicted." Flechette looked at him and raised her eyebrows. "You're not going to see wounds visibly closing. If you prick your finger it will have healed by the time the needle is out. Actually, sort of before that, but the mechanics get a bit complicated."
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Among other things there's what sounds like an instant time reversal effect to make any damage never have happened and...

LordRoustabout said:
"Not really." He said flippantly. "The complete destruction of your entire body on a fundamental level across multiple dimensions, inclusive of the surrounding fabric of space-time might do it, but that's not really something you can 'look out' for."
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It's not enough to destroy the persons entire body across multiple dimensions, you need to basically vacuum collapse the local universe too.

I assume if you did drop a sting empowered anvil big enough to totally erase Flechette's body from existence she'd have been standing nearby (and would always have been), with the anvil closely missing.
 
I am pretty sure his greek and norse power make it a conceptual immortality. When he says it has fo be destroyed in a fundamental manner i think he means the concept of lily has to be destroyed multidimensionally to kill her.
 
LordRoustabout said:
She shook her head. "Sorry, it's just, you're saying I have a stronger power than March." She swallowed. "A stronger power than…"

"Everything." Apeiron said flatly.

She looked up at Apeiron's completely serious face. It felt like the footing she had only just been able to find had been swept out from under her. "What?"

"It's stronger than everything. The strongest parahuman power." He repeated.
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"You are a wizard, Lily."
 
Quick, someone build that girl a railgun!
No, seriously, Flechette's powers as described can make an entirely conventional railgun work perfectly; just tell the rails to ignore friction. Then she can give the projectile a full charge of "ignore everything" and kill Endbringers from the safety of the next state over.
 
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Mr_Rose said:
Quick, someone build that girl a railgun!
No, seriously, her powers as described can make a perfectly conventional railgun work perfectly; just tell the rails to ignore friction. Then she can give the projectile a full charge of "ignore everything" and kill Endbringers from the safety of the next state over.
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Reminds me of Rusty from AC6 as he shoot a railgun from many many kilometers away at a moving giant metal worm.
I never miss indeed.
 
Paloswag said:
Another aspect I like about this fic is the lack of Cauldron interludes. Their plan and operations is so absurd that any writing from their perspective weakens the work as a whole. Things start to get silly when they start talking. Keeping their presence vague and in the background was the right call.
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Alexandria's briefing in the Chubster interlude showed her being serious and gave hints of Cauldron's impressions on the Forge. The choice to not be in her head was a valid one, but we're getting a competent conspiracy this time.

Re "Erasing Jack Slash's legacy", he's not going to wipe Jack out of existence and memory, he's shining a light on the effects of [Broadcast] and how it affected Literally Every Parahuman to enable his pathetic murderhobo ways.

Remember that Aisha's first reaction after being gifted her planet and being informed of the Slaughterhouse being a target was 'why didn't I even think about the possibility of slitting Jack's throat'. Once [Broadcast] is out of the picture, EVERY Parahuman and think tank is going to get a 'your contingency in case of Jack print job has finally been cleared' moment, decades late.
 
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More than that, it seemed to call out to her power. Cautiously, she extended her power to the blade in her hand. Normally it took time and focus to charge an item with her power. The paper sword just seemed to drink it in. She could empower it in an instant, faster than she had ever been able to before. It would let her empower her strikes on the moment of contact, or change the properties just as quickly. Phasing through matter, ignoring natural forces, or just plowing through everything in her way.

Apeiron smiled at the blade, fully charged with her power. She saw his reaction and felt slightly embarrassed, like she had been playing with something that belonged in an art collection rather than the hands of a street cape. She loosened her grip and felt the blade fold back, retracting into flower form.
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He gets an upgrade for his Blade of Annihilation with Flechette also showing off different forms for different flavors.
 
TheGrape said:
Hilariously enough, this means Flechette can kill herself even with this super-duper-uber-healing. She just needs to use her power on a comically large anvil and let it squish her.
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Yeah there's reasons why I refer to Fletchette's power as the demons dagger of the entities. - Why do demon lords always seem to carry a weapon capable of their own destruction? Well how do you think they became demon lords in the first place?
 
I didn't actually understand why he didn't improve weld again? Like he gave the mithril at the end but for some reason they didn't do a tune up from the last healing session?
 
Daecl said:
And if I'm remembering correctly, the four key powers belong to Lily, Taylor, Amy, and Riley? Presumably Riley is the one who's getting the boot.
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Yeah, though that's only the ones his thinker power has pinged on. If he becomes aware of Clairvoyant and Doormaker he will most likely also include them into the important parahuman powers. Probably with similar importance to Amy's.
 
GeekGod_of_Speed said:
I didn't actually understand why he didn't improve weld again? Like he gave the mithril at the end but for some reason they didn't do a tune up from the last healing session?
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Survivor guilt. Or something like it; Weld is considered the luckiest C53 because he's humanoid, photogenic, and sane.* So he feels like his contract for healing was something like a kid adopted by billionaires going on to win the lottery while the other kids from his cohort are still at the orphanage.
Thus he decided to ask that his contract be applied to other C53 kids instead of him. Apeiron, being the benevolent fey he is, said "OK but since you're acting out of sincere altruism you get another contract for full healing. Only further down the list because you just put everyone else ahead of you. But here's a top up to tide you over anyway."


* well as sane as parahumans get, anyway, which is close enough for government work.
 
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All that lack of communication comes in handy to make Apeiron the scapegoat for not dishing on everything. But now Lily has a paper sword and Weld is back to a shiny wrapping (on loan) and the case 53 issues will be addressed soon-ish. This is clearly the biggest news they have to tend to today. Unless he starts his S9 crusade before the end of their patrol, which admittedly would be hilarious, can't say he's a slacker.
I think of all things Cauldron would be excited about the report. They don't have exact details, but Contessa could weasel it out of Lily, so she has the information already and doesn't actually have to do it.
Because unlike them, Apeiron has a solution. He had a very anomalous Trigger and a vision of the final answer (and we know that all sort of forbidden knowledge leaks down constantly in a faulty system, it's just that the individuals almost never have enough puzzle pieces to make sense of it) and now he's putting all his considerable power into making it possible. They would like some control but even if they can't have that, they'd still want to enable him. The inevitable extinction having an actual, practical solution rather than a hail Mary numbers game is the dream. Lily probably gets included in the Contessa passive protection program. I think guessing Taylor as one of the others isn't hard (especially with some social Thinkers going over tapes to say there's no real familial or romantic attachment in their body language towards each other). The worst part about this is spreading the news about the end of the world, since that's one of the risk factors in shortening that timeline and they don't want him to accidentally shoot himself in the foot and start the apocalypse before he's ready go shoot that silver bullet.
 
YuffieK said:
What fallout? Joe intends to erase Jack Slash's legacy completely. That implies a Lethe-level effect that effectively and retroactively erases their existence from the memories of everyone on the planet outside of a select few.
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That's not entirely accurate. Joe isn't going to mindwipe everyone to forget the Nine existed, he's just going to crtl+z everything that they've ever done. Like pop time bubbles, fix up townsite people of debilitating disease, etc.

Granted, mind wiping the world of the Nine would indeed remove their effect on the world, but it would also mean that no one would remember why they are supposed to be murder hobos. Because Apeiron will kill you and undo everything you've ever done.
 
Making people forget the Nine existed? Bad.
Making people forget Jack Slash's name? Rad.

The bastard wanted his name to be a legacy of pain so killing it along with him would be the best revenge.
 
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Apeiron: "I am a mercenary, not a hero."

Also Apeiron: "Ho ho ho, you've been a very good boy this year! I think you deserve to get a very special reward!" 🎅

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Meanwhile, Vista continues her lonely vigil as the unheeded prophet: "Beware! Did not cunning Sauron don a fair visage and befriend the elves in the guise of Annatar, the Lord of Gifts? Beware the subtle tyrant's traps! Fight back against his demonic corruption before it is too late!"
 
So this is basically Cauldron 2.0 right? I was actually disappointed when they decided to hide most of the details because all of this is going to be very familiar to Rebecca.

Shame they'll not learn that Apeiron is beating them at their own game and stopping to solve their failures.
 
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