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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Spidey_phd said:
Is Armstrong's brazier soul-bound or otherwise protected from theft?
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It's not, but it both won't help someone who isn't the leader of a large organization that views their workforce like family, and much more importantly was given as a gift by Apeiron so someone would have to be insane to take it.
Mr_Rose said:
Gotta say I was kind of half expecting Survey or Lethe to step through a portal and announce that the slaughterhouse 9 had entered BB city limits. Obviously they don't need to but it's a good piece of misdirection and allow for Director Armstrong to come to the right conclusions from the wrong direction (again) as Joe says something like "right, we need to deal with this" and steps through the portal.
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First, the S9 are being intercepted when they hit the state limit, not BB's. Second, that event isn't supposed to happend for another 12 hours or so in story if not longer due to all the delays the Forge keeps causing them. We have to get through Joe's talks with Lisa, Garment's talk to Gully, Joe's talks to Gully about treatment, Joe's talk to Flechette about medical nanites, Brian visiting the gym, Joe's talks to Taylor about her trigger, Joe's session with Dr.Campbell, and Pancrea being released from M/S confinement, along with anything else scheduled I forgot.
 
I have 2 ideas for omake if any of you want to do anything with it please feel free.
The first would be Percy Jackson's Greek gods reacting to Jozef. I think it would be very funny to see them react to the fight and when Jozef makes offerings to them.

The second idea came from rereading the omake with Jozef as Primarch, imagine Jozef has just killed Lung he's seriously injured the whole team panic the PRT gets close to Jozef then ! And suddenly 2 companies of space marines deploy in force to secure and avenge him, all the while shouting for the Primarch Apeiron ! imagine everyone's reaction. 'Well, Apeiron has an army of super-soldiers, so we're screwed."
 
Shadow Archon said:
Joe really just said, "Hey, hand me that paper clip and give me a second, I'm going to make something really neat." And then just made a pocket lighter/lamp/brazier/lantern.

Like, even ignoring the clairvoyance, that's just hilarious to me.

With just a box of scraps, I think Aperion can do what the GECK did this chapter faster by hand!
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What's funnier is that Armstrong saw Joe do that and instead of questioning to himself how he did that with a freaking paperclip he just ignored it and concerned himself with the important bit (the flame).

He is starting to think like a true Celestial Forgian!
 
Wow.. @LordRoustabout I am having a hard time coming up with a coherent explanation, but everything about this chapter has just cemented it as my favorite in a long time. It had me chuckling and smiling and laughing and looking forward to each new paragraph.

Thank you so much for your continuing efforts to entertain us.

@Pettrip if you feel inspired to do any media for this chapter, let me know and I would be happy to sponsor.
 
How sentient are the AIs from Titanfall? I haven't played but I watched some of the story on YouTube. BT-7274 was awesome!
"Protocol three: I will NOT lose another pilot."

Joe did not hesitate to spend a great deal of time and effort to educate and uplift Tetra, even risking his life to save her own. He scrambled quickly to ensure that the little green Minions were safe, happy, and had everything that they needed. He rushed to free Garment and has worked hard to facilitate her goals.

So I'm guessing the Titans are pretty 'dumb'.

Joe: I'm about to make this paperclip into a divine tool for divination for you because, although we only met two minutes ago, you seem like a nice guy.

Also Joe: ANOTHER multi-ton mech robot? Put it in the Museum next to the doorstop and the other Titans.
 
Tiz Goldeneye said:
Why would you expect the works of the best superhero division in the planet with decades of experience to stand up to monkey steel!?
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They really don't have that much one of the things I think is weakest about worm's world building is the timeline. Scion arrived in 1982 before that the timeline is identical to our earth and Aleph. You then had a few years where the only divergence was Scion flying around places depressed and naked because the arrival of shards is staggered so hardly any were around and then you had to wait for people to actually trigger plus Cauldron obviously had to work out vials that didn't immediately kill people and lacked doormaker making getting around and recruiting people especially with actually offering them a choice take far long heck the Triumvirate didn't take their vials until 86.

Around this point in the latter half of the 80s you then had the first people going out in costume before things started going badly with Vikare dying and people learning capes were actually human in 89 and the nine's first iteration starting up. Behemoth then appeared near the end of 93 with the prt getting founded in response at the very end of the same year with Levi appearing in 96, Hero dying in 2000 and Ziz appearing in 2002.

However, worm canon occurs in 2011 so things like Heartbreaker, the Herren clan and the Fallen existing and having kids that are 14-19 that were born into these groups after they'd gone off and former isolated communities is pretty iffy tho at least Heartbreaker who is the easiest to believe is the one with the oldest. More relevant to your post is that it means the prt and associated groups are only 17 years old as a whole but obviously with some groups like watchdog and the bay's branch obviously being younger. That makes their attitude on how much they know about powers even more ridiculous than it is just from knowing some of their claims or what the specialist Purity goes to speak to reveals about how childish the researchers are.

Mr_Rose said:
Gotta say I was kind of half expecting Survey or Lethe to step through a portal and announce that the slaughterhouse 9 had entered BB city limits. Obviously they don't need to but it's a good piece of misdirection and allow for Director Armstrong to come to the right conclusions from the wrong direction (again) as Joe says something like "right, we need to deal with this" and steps through the portal.
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Tiz Goldeneye said:
It's not, but it both won't help someone who isn't the leader of a large organization that views their workforce like family, and much more importantly was given as a gift by Apeiron so someone would have to be insane to take it.

First, the S9 are being intercepted when they hit the state limit, not BB's. Second, that event isn't supposed to happend for another 12 hours or so in story if not longer due to all the delays the Forge keeps causing them. We have to get through Joe's talks with Lisa, Garment's talk to Gully, Joe's talks to Gully about treatment, Joe's talk to Flechette about medical nanites, Brian visiting the gym, Joe's talks to Taylor about her trigger, Joe's session with Dr.Campbell, and Pancrea being released from M/S confinement, along with anything else scheduled I forgot.
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When we last heard of the nine's location iirc about a day ago in story their physical location was only about 6 hours away by car from the rough location of the bay in story according to google maps. Now obviously the nine are likely to need more time from being in big vans that can carry Crawler, being in 2011 bet and Bakuda's big emp that went off but the real problem is just that they start moving late, go to bed early and want a ton of time of tormenting people and tinkering. Still they should arrive on either the current in story day or the next one in which case it will probably still be about 4-7 in story hours then jump to 24+ if they don't make it on the current in story day due to how early they stop and late they start.

For other events pet wog and as seen via flame divination Weld will be with Fletchette when approached so his treatment will be discussed. Joe also plans to offer the nanites to Amy and stop in at the gym where he may meet Brian and get the revelation on him being Aisha's brother.
 
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Spacewalker said:
Apeiron told Weld that Calling Card was accidentally turned on, indicating that he could turn the effect on and off.
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I think that was more Joe trying to explain away the "I just got a memetic power that forces everyone to look at flash card attack names."

Also, Joe's attack name things can be mitigated by just… not doing things that would get awesome names and stylized title cards, but given in the Lung fight he was focused on excising Lung's organs from his flesh puppet, Joe wasn't focused on deliberately not doing title card things.

Hell, given that it's Fiat backed I don't even think he can deliberately avoid the title cards.
 
Foxy Boxes said:
I don't think it's proper English, but it's certainly better English. Clarity is king.
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Fair enough, but just like the New Yorker with their "Jr.,'s" thing, everyone is going to think it is a typo and many will think it is weird even after it's explained. I'd be more inclined to bring back double spacing after sentence-ending periods, myself, though I don't know if that works on a web forum (EDIT: It does not, at least not without doing some special HTML trick I can't be bothered to figure out). Probably easier to just avoid ending a sentence with it, especially in cases where the following capital letter doesn't make it clear enough.

Or write the damn thing without the periods in the first place, are people really pronouncing it gee-ee-cee-kay?
 
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Narsauce said:
I think that was more Joe trying to explain away the "I just got a memetic power that forces everyone to look at flash card attack names."

Also, Joe's attack name things can be mitigated by just… not doing things that would get awesome names and stylized title cards, but given in the Lung fight he was focused on excising Lung's organs from his flesh puppet, Joe wasn't focused on deliberately not doing title card things.

Hell, given that it's Fiat backed I don't even think he can deliberately avoid the title cards.
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iirc it can be toggled by Joe was deep in his amplified instincts and really just shy of a berserker rage (tho I still maintain Lung being the target was odd) so he was putting his back into it and hitting Lung with all that he could which included calling card.
 
Spidey_phd said:
So I'm guessing the Titans are pretty 'dumb'.

Joe: I'm about to make this paperclip into a divine tool for divination for you because, although we only met two minutes ago, you seem like a nice guy.

Also Joe: ANOTHER multi-ton mech robot? Put it in the Museum next to the doorstop and the other Titans
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That's not at all how Joe has been treating them. They've gotten the same sort of personalized care to help them understand themselves, their circumstances, the world around them, and what they want to do and be going forward.
 
This story is still so amazing. The entire conversation with Apeiron about rituals and powers was just so well thought out, so deep. It's incredible and something I can get in almost no other story. Just, *chef's kiss*.

LordRoustabout said:
included disclaimer stating that the name was allegorical and that device was entirely a product of technology with no divine, spiritual, or theological elements intrinsic to its operation.
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I think that Apeiron feeling the need to specify this would just make me more worried!
LordRoustabout said:
"I think we can manage." Armstrong said. Honestly, with technology like that they could probably manage anything south of a nuclear apocalypse
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I see what you did there :rofl:
LordRoustabout said:
Somehow the Matrix seemed slightly smug despite not having any expression whatsoever.
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I 🖤 the matrix so much. So much personality.
 
Spidey_phd said:
Also Joe: ANOTHER multi-ton mech robot? Put it in the Museum next to the doorstop and the other Titans.
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Anaja said:
That's not at all how Joe has been treating them. They've gotten the same sort of personalized care to help them understand themselves, their circumstances, the world around them, and what they want to do and be going forward.
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Definitely a case of narrative preservation, this story would become actually unreadable if every titan got their own personalized story.

This story already suffers from bloat, I'm pretty happy with the Titans living their offscreen lives on planet Workshop, at least until or unless LR has something interesting to do with them.
 
BagFullOfLizards said:
I think that Apeiron feeling the need to specify this would just make me more worried!
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I mean, Armstrong knows at this point that the prayer thing is a thing, and provides an adequate explanation for why it'd need a disclaimer (perhaps not for why he wouldn't just give it a different name, but maybe he wouldn't be the first or last tinker to have a power that's rather insistent on naming conventions)
 
CircleTheSkies said:
In the meantime, however, Cauldron will almost certainly be freaking out in a moderate way. Not major, as Apeiron's (probably) not yet derailing their plans to kill Scion and salvage humanity in the aftermath, and the man's technology might even help (I suspect Fortuna could path the utility of any Forge tech that spreads once it's out in the wild)... but he's definitely going to be very clearly not contained and not controlled. And trying to find a route to 'remedying' the latter will likely run afoul of some rather unpleasant divine effects, if I recall right.
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The Cauldron freakout I'm looking forward to is when Apeiron takes down the Nine. Because, well, Cauldron are idiots. Canon is pretty clear on that, from what I understand. They're chasing after goals that won't really help in the worst possible fashion.

But what's been implied here is that it isn't entirely their fault. Jack Slash has a master power that works on all parahumans, that enables him to live his sick little murder fantasies. And Cauldron is focused on creating a world that not only allows his behavior but actively protects him from consequences. I'm really looking forward to Apeiron turning that power off and everyone in Cauldron looking at that, looking at their plans, and then going "what were we thinking?!"
 
BagFullOfLizards said:
I'm really looking forward to Apeiron turning that power off and everyone in Cauldron looking at that, looking at their plans, and then going "what were we thinking?!"
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One of the funniest bits is that Contessa's paths are probably going to massively change. Well, assuming her goals for the paths weren't already dumb. Really there's two ways Contessa makes sense, she chose some path really early on that was sub optimal and now the path is actively trying to keep her on it. Part of the most efficient path to a goal is keeping you going for said goal. Or her paths are actively being messed with via broadcast. I think it's probably some combination of both.
 
BagFullOfLizards said:
The Cauldron freakout I'm looking forward to is when Apeiron takes down the Nine. Because, well, Cauldron are idiots. Canon is pretty clear on that, from what I understand. They're chasing after goals that won't really help in the worst possible fashion.

But what's been implied here is that it isn't entirely their fault. Jack Slash has a master power that works on all parahumans, that enables him to live his sick little murder fantasies. And Cauldron is focused on creating a world that not only allows his behavior but actively protects him from consequences. I'm really looking forward to Apeiron turning that power off and everyone in Cauldron looking at that, looking at their plans, and then going "what were we thinking?!"
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Not entirely as their leader the self proclaimed doctor mother (who is neither a doctor or a mother) is someone who has a corona but hasn't triggered to avoid things like that sadly she's also the same person without emotions who can watch the first person to ever have a vial burst into gory chunks like monsters such as Slitheen from doctor who in front of her from drinking it without reaction. She's also the same idiot that despite all evidence such as it not happening for the endbringers expects all people to willingly step and and cooperate to fight scion on the logic of because what else can they do?
 
Seraph282 said:
This story already suffers from bloat, I'm pretty happy with the Titans living their offscreen lives on planet Workshop, at least until or unless LR has something interesting to do with them.
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Indeed, Titan ION has become the leader of the Titan cadre, admittedly mostly by being first, and she seems determined to be the best she can be, while Aisha accidentally became a reluctant Pilot and in the meanwhile the rest of them get to join movie nights.
I kinda think Joe might be waiting for one of them to break enough of their default subservience to actually ask for a vote on the movie…
famfrit said:
wait for people to actually trigger plus Cauldron obviously had to work out vials that didn't immediately kill people
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Can anyone confirm if Cauldron technically pre-dates the arrival of Scion's avatar on bet? Because I figure he would at least have spent some time "gathering himself" like Eden did…
Anyway, if that's the case the question is "by how long" - did the entities actually land in 1980 and then Scion spent a couple of years waiting for a signal that would never come?
 
Mr_Rose said:
Can anyone confirm if Cauldron technically pre-dates the arrival of Scion's avatar on bet? Because I figure he would at least have spent some time "gathering himself" like Eden did…
Anyway, if that's the case the question is "by how long" - did the entities actually land in 1980 and then Scion spent a couple of years waiting for a signal that would never come?
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We don't know the exact timeline but it's something like in 1980 the warrior and thinker were in travelling in space and not even in the solar system and in 1982 scion landed on earth. I can also tell you that after arriving scion didn't wait around for a signal because he noticed an oddity with Eden's arriving shards and used years of lifespan on high end thinker powers to conclude Eden was dead making him depressed and give up on the cycle. That's because scion is the warrior so it gave away it's admin shards meaning it can't really communicate with (Jack Slash's) or edit shards (Taylor's) or reclaim them (GU's) and most importantly it can't leave the planet because it can't trigger the process to blow up the earth or form the next generation of entities or even return to entity form itself so it's stuck on earth making the solution pointless even if discovered.
 
Mr_Rose said:
Can anyone confirm if Cauldron technically pre-dates the arrival of Scion's avatar on bet? Because I figure he would at least have spent some time "gathering himself" like Eden did…
Anyway, if that's the case the question is "by how long" - did the entities actually land in 1980 and then Scion spent a couple of years waiting for a signal that would never come?
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This is confirmed in Interlude 29, but it's not by long. We see Doctor Mother and Fortuna conducting their first vial tests (which fail horrifically, and lead to Fortuna distancing herself from her path by changing her name to Contessa), then the news about Scion appearing, and then the first batch of vials to have successes (which included Hero and Doormaker)
 
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