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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Mr_Rose said:
Taylor's entire personality is composed of 100% pure anti-chill, what did you expect?

Skitter: hey, tats, look; with this new upgrade I can set myself on fire and barely notice. I should go out like this all the time.
Tattletale: no! You can't go out on fire, it will ruin your stealth!
S: ah! I already thought of that!
T: *muttering* oh god, she already thought of that…
S: methanol burns invisibly, see?
T: *panicking because the ceiling tiles are already melting* you'll ruin your hair!
S: oh… well maybe Joe knows some magic hair care products? He'd pretty much have to, right?
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Tsk tsk, Tatts, wrong move. Point out that fire, what surprise, needs fuel and even if you can carry a lot of it, its a tremendous waste to burn it all the time. More so, coating yourself in something flammable and then using it as a surprise attack is also very effective; its not JoJo, nobody expects that you just set yourself on fire out of blue AND you get to keep the illusion that you only temporary immune to it; might come in a pinch one day. On the other hand, burning swarm of bugs is, ahhh, rather "problematic" to deal with and far better at reaching targets - use fuel for this!
 
Mr_Rose said:
Taylor's entire personality is composed of 100% pure anti-chill, what did you expect?

Skitter: hey, tats, look; with this new upgrade I can set myself on fire and barely notice. I should go out like this all the time.
Tattletale: no! You can't go out on fire, it will ruin your stealth!
S: ah! I already thought of that!
T: *muttering* oh god, she already thought of that…
S: methanol burns invisibly, see?
T: *panicking because the ceiling tiles are already melting* you'll ruin your hair!
S: oh… well maybe Joe knows some magic hair care products? He'd pretty much have to, right?
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Well that's not at all likely to be her solution; her solution is far more likely to make the environment suitable for camouflaging herself in with fire by setting the environment on fire. Specifically the part of the environment composed of her Swarm.
famfrit said:
The problem with her is more that the bullying left it's scars including severe self worth issues which means she dives into a cap life as escapism as there she can be worth something. Except that's something she constantly feels the need to prove especially to her self so she's pretty much always pushing to be working on achieving something especially for whatever big crusade she has going at the moment. The real problem for canon though is that she wants to personally achieve things with her own two hands which is a large chunk of why she doesn't like her own power because she wants to be Alexandria basically or at least the type of master like Genesis who basically sends her consciousness into a projection. Honestly once she realises it she's going to reach the point she should rename herself to Leroy Jenkins because even without brute powers that's how canon Lisa and Brian feel about her.
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Hey you remember how her first reaction to Lung was to present herself to him and demand that he surrender? Dumbass thought that she was gon'a fist-fight a Brute with the power of controlling insects.
ExploerTM said:
Tsk tsk, Tatts, wrong move. Point out that fire, what surprise, needs fuel and even if you can carry a lot of it, its a tremendous waste to burn it all the time. More so, coating yourself in something flammable and then using it as a surprise attack is also very effective; its not JoJo, nobody expects that you just set yourself on fire out of blue AND you get to keep the illusion that you only temporary immune to it; might come in a pinch one day. On the other hand, burning swarm of bugs is, ahhh, rather "problematic" to deal with and far better at reaching targets - use fuel for this!
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Her body probably has enough fat and her insects probably have enough surface-area-per-unit-of-volume to be flammable.
 
Discord said:
What do you think if the Trumvirtate had a semblance what would it be?
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Legend: See No Evil
User can 'mark' people or objects within their line of sight; the more aura he spends on his Semblance, the longer the marks persist. The user's ocular vision and Aura-based danger sense are greatly enhanced with respect to the targets of their marks, potentially allowing a user at the highest levels to see their wards from afar and instinctively detect threats around them.
However, anything the user senses with this power also immediately enters their long-term memory with muted emotional associations, totally bypassing their better judgement as if they had already seen everything before - it takes deliberate, conscious assessment to remember to act when sensing danger to one's wards, or when seeing one's allies commit crimes.

Alexandria: The Plunge
When inhaling, the user can 'siphon' inertia, willpower, and clarity from the world around her. This effect scales nonlinearly with the depth of one's inhalation, remaining negligible for shallow breaths yet growing exponentially for deeper ones, and lasts as long as one can hold their breath, reversing with exhalation. Although it costs nothing to siphon this inertia, it does place a strain on one's Aura to contain it.
Objects stripped of inertia behave approximately as one would expect, easily batted around by the forces of the world; people stripped of willpower and clarity become more psychologically fragile, less committed, and less focused. The user benefits from the opposite of all these effects while inhaling, but can be temporarily distracted or even diminished by the loss felt while exhaling.

Eidolon: Empty Martyrdom
With only a token expenditure of Aura, the user can choose to permanently sacrifice a part of himself - blood and body, life and selfhood, emotions and memories. Each time he does so, he receives a commensurate amount of fungible potential, which immediately and permanently flows to reinforce him. Fungible potential spends itself on what the user needs most, but this always takes the form of reinforcement to the user's raw power - for a normal user, an amplification of Aura's protective and enhancile traits. Nothing ever totally prevents the user from making small sacrifices, but each time he makes a larger sacrifice, that becomes the new 'normal' for his Semblance, as it becomes a clumsier and more demanding pyre.
 
Is someone (Aisha) able to resist getting someone's Hat?

Had the image Aisha talks to the Shard itself and whispers "Hey! Listen!"

For some reason, Fortuna wears Bunny Ears.
 
Lim3_01 said:
There's no reason not to kill them and plenty of reasons to kill them.
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Not before they get to town. If the Celestial Forge acts before then, then everybody is going to freak the fuck out. If they wait until then, then it just reinforces the idea that you do not fuck with the Celestial Forge.

In the meantime the S9 aren't doing anything to anybody because they're in a complete isolation where they aren't encountering anyone that isn't a fake being remote operated by Fleet.

So, waiting.
 
Anaja said:
Not before they get to town. If the Celestial Forge acts before then, then everybody is going to freak the fuck out. If they wait until then, then it just reinforces the idea that you do not fuck with the Celestial Forge.

In the meantime the S9 aren't doing anything to anybody because they're in a complete isolation where they aren't encountering anyone that isn't a fake being remote operated by Fleet.

So, waiting.
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Why does Celestial Forge NEED to tell people they did anything? Why would they "freak the fuck out"? Why would a group of super powered serial killers with bioweapons being in the city not result in people freaking out? And Why not just pull the trigger on the most evil monsters on the entire planet? Especially ones the government has put a bounty on?
 
Because the rest of Earth-Bet thinks that the Celestial Forge is purely reactive. Realizing that that isn't the case and that Apeiron has spoofed their best thinkers, would cause a freak-out, especially as the Forge will probably curbstomp the Slaughterhouse Nine.
 
Lim3_01 said:
Why does Celestial Forge NEED to tell people they did anything? Why would they "freak the fuck out"? Why would a group of super powered serial killers with bioweapons being in the city not result in people freaking out? And Why not just pull the trigger on the most evil monsters on the entire planet? Especially ones the government has put a bounty on?
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Long story short, Joe wants to end the Nine so thoroughly that even their reputation is broken. Which requires taking them down in a way that people will know about so that they can see the Nine being systematically torn to shreds. Such a thing requires timing, given that every Thinker on the planet is assuming that Joe is a fundamentally reactive force; anything Joe or the Forge does that isn't reactive causes people to realize that their Thinkers are useless (or worse) against him, which causes people to freak out, which could easily lead to panicking world leaders deciding the Forge is an imminent threat because they can't predict him the way they can nearly every other cape. And that path leads to sending good heroes away from where they can actually be helpful and throwing them against the Forge, where at best, they're wasting everybody's time. At worst, people get hurt. Most likely civilians. Joe and the Forge may be indestructible, but if the Powers That Be decide to nuke Brockton Bay (literally or metaphorically), there's gonna be a lot of casualties that Joe doesn't want to happen.

And so, he moves carefully. Like an elephant carefully trying to only stomp the ants he means to stomp, without triggering the whole hill into attacking him. Because the elephant cares more about the well-being of all the ants than he does about squishing these specific ants as soon as he can reasonably manage it.

And it'd be one thing if the Nine weren't entirely contained right now, because then there's civilian casualties to consider. But they are contained, since Joe has made sure that nobody who's an actual person is at threat from the Nine currently. So he's picking his moment to best achieve his goals, without causing negative reactions based on how he did it.
 
Lim3_01 said:
Why would a group of super powered serial killers with bioweapons being in the city not result in people freaking out?
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Brockton Bay would freak out, but that would be temporary once the S9 are taken down. It would also be mostly local compared to the global freak out of a proactive Celestial Forge doing stuff.

Lim3_01 said:
And Why not just pull the trigger on the most evil monsters on the entire planet? Especially ones the government has put a bounty on?
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Because they've become a stain on the psyche of the world, and Joe wants to fix that rather than just kill them. He wants to dismantle their mystique, evil glamour, etc. He doesn't want people looking back on them as some great boogeyman of the past. He wants them to become a pathetic joke that nobody can take seriously anymore. Just killing them doesn't accomplish that. It doesn't help people get over them.

Joe's trying to help people, and not just kill the bad guys.
 
Lim3_01 said:
Why does Celestial Forge NEED to tell people they did anything? Why would they "freak the fuck out"? Why would a group of super powered serial killers with bioweapons being in the city not result in people freaking out? And Why not just pull the trigger on the most evil monsters on the entire planet? Especially ones the government has put a bounty on?
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Any other dead horses you wanna pulverise the bones of? Go off about the pacing again, that's never tiring and boring.
 
Lim3_01 said:
Why does Celestial Forge NEED to tell people they did anything? Why would they "freak the fuck out"? Why would a group of super powered serial killers with bioweapons being in the city not result in people freaking out? And Why not just pull the trigger on the most evil monsters on the entire planet? Especially ones the government has put a bounty on?
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Aside from the stuff already said Joe is planning on using it as an excuse to go fix all the damage from their past atks such as freeing people from the grey boy bubbles by using the nine's atk as an excuse to say it is to spite them. The forge members suddenly deploying like that across the whole country will freak people out unless it can be painted as part of the comforting delusions they have which is important because even with all the stuff the forge has the nine has been active for so long groups like the prt could rally a response and wait at a location they haven't gotten to yet.
 
Lim3_01 said:
Why does Celestial Forge NEED to tell people they did anything?
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And aside from what other people already said... Do you think people would NOT notice that S9 suddenly vanished from all radars? Even now, wandering in the middle bumfuck nowhere with Fleet as a GM, I am fairly sure at least SOME Thinker powers pick up and monitor that S9 alive and well. And even IF Joe decides to go full stealth on everything including curing Bonesaw's victims and popping Grey Boy bubbles... do you really believe people wont put two and two together? S9 going vaguely in the direction of Brockton Bay suddenly vanishes and then suddenly supposedly irreversible things get reversed on a span of a night if that - golly gee I wonder what happened and who they pissed off, its not like there's a team of supertinkers resides in the area where S9 were heading who also happen to have Very Scary Super Stranger in their midst. Fucking mystery, isnt it?
 
And from RCB's point of view, after the S9 are suddenly taken care of?:

RCB: "Celestial Forge is too powerful, we must have them under our control. I want every thinker we can lean on to get us details so we can bring them to heel."
Legend: "Rebecca, we have three thinkers that have had minor brain bleeds, another that's a gibbering mess, and the remainder have headaches so bad they've vowed to never attempt to investigate anything remotely related to BB or CF, and are willing to let the details of Cauldron slip out if we try to force the issue. We have no leverage over CF at all, and we don't even know where they're based from. How exactly would you like us to deal with them? Personally, I'd just msg them on PHO and ask they not attack anyone that doesn't deserve it, and call it a day."
RCB: "They're dangerous. What's stopping them from taking over BB, or worse? They can't be trusted because I say so."
Legend: ... "But it wouldn't hurt to talk to them, right? You know, that thing called dialogue, where you ask questions and see what they have to say?"
RCB: "Unacceptable, unless we have some way to destroy them first. Maybe a small, low yield nuke under a conference table in a remote area. I'll be immune to it, and if you enter your breaker state first..."

News: And this late breaking story - PRT Leader Rebecca Costa Brown and Protectorate Leader Legend are both missing after attending a private meeting with Celestial Forge that literally blew up. We have an inside source that says a pony nuke was being used as leverage by the PRT to keep CF from doing anything stupid, and both leaders *should* have been immune to the effects. The members of Celestial Forge were seen later with no apparent damage. It looks like the PRT found out what happens when you try to force an issue with CF. Celestial Forge, if you're seeing this, would you let us know what happened? The US still needs leaders for PRT/Protectorate, and if they can keep from making the same mistakes, it would be in everyone's best interest.
 
Statement from Apeiron:
"I detected the device initiating and deployed a one-shot Instant Safety Bunker, which will be arriving at PRT Head Office just... now."

Meanwhile, PRT mailroom:
A six inch cube going through the scanners is detected to contain a tinker tech device. When examined it is found to be a four inch sphere, half red half white, with a single gold button marked "OPEN". A shipping notice declares the package to be "One (1) Apeiron Brand Instant Safety Bunker, contents Two (2) Persons".
 
Finally managed to read this latest chapters; thank you, it was fantastic.
I have something to say about Most Holy Order of the Socket Wrench (Fast and Furious) though:
LordRoustabout said:
I might not be a tinker or a Spark, but when it came to vehicle engineering, I was suddenly able to twist the laws of nature into knots in order to get whatever desired effect I was going for. And on top of that, the work was massively accelerated. I was a one man chop shop in a quite literal sense, able to do the work of an entire fully staffed automotive facility all on my own. Strip downs and rebuilds could be completed blazingly fast while modifications or even sabotage could be handled in moments with only a bit of time and scrap wire.

Unlike with Mechanic, it was probably a good thing that I hadn't received this power at an earlier point. I was fairly certain I wouldn't have been able to cover for its effects, particularly back when Mr. Clay was watching me like a hawk. Just looking at the cart with the benefit of my new ability, I could see hundreds of ways to turn it into some unbelievable beast of speed and durability.
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Your description make it sound like a sort of magical passive that he can not control, but it is just knowledge.
Sure, NOS in a bycicle and all that, but it doesn't break laws of nature or something, there is nothing supernatural about that.
Even looking in the Fast and Furious francise it is pure human ingenuity and horsepower.
It is more like Scientist: Machinery in my opinion, a source of knowledge he can tap to ...exceed expectations improving vehicles; but it is no transformer or RWBY dimensional folding
 
OtteryLexa said:
Meanwhile, PRT mailroom:
A six inch cube going through the scanners is detected to contain a tinker tech device. When examined it is found to be a four inch sphere, half red half white, with a single gold button marked "OPEN". A shipping notice declares the package to be "One (1) Apeiron Brand Instant Safety Bunker, contents Two (2) Persons".
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Alexandria: ... 😐
Legend: ... 😳
Alexandria: Not a word, pl-
Legend: Why did it also contain a so-called "de-stressing" unicorn pasture? And how can I tell those "Duplicates" that it was not de-stressing at all?
 
Axel said:
Your description make it sound like a sort of magical passive that he can not control, but it is just knowledge.
Sure, NOS in a bycicle and all that, but it doesn't break laws of nature or something, there is nothing supernatural about that.
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Most of the time Lord interprets perks from their descriptions, and well, the description of "Most Holy Order of the Socket Wrench" says this:
Most Holy Order of the Socket Wrench (Fast and Furious) 400:
You are a master mechanic. Repair and upkeep is nice, but you can go beyond the impossible and improve any vehicle. Take a van and make it beat a supercar? Put NOS injectors on a bicycle (and make it work)? How bout something challenging? And anything you can build up you can tear down, too. You're a one-man chop shop and wiring a car to explode takes but a few moments and some chicken wire.
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Not "you know your way in improving the vehicle" or "your ingenuity is unrivalled", nothing like that. Just straight up "can go beyond the impossible", no "know how to", no "think better", just "can" and that is it. This perk is just declaring itself as more than impossible by its very wording, how else to interpret it but supernatural?
 
Also, nitro boosters on a vehicle with no combustion engine, or internal power source at all? That has to be bending physics somewhere unless it's rigged as a pure compressed gas expansion assist motor. In which case it's entirely the wrong gas to be using.
 
Welcome to the world of Jumpchain. Perks are often infinitely more powerful/capable than the explicit inspiration, and cost bears no relationship to power.
 
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