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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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I actually wonder how much REAL time has passed since he's gained his power, because I FEEL like it's either less than or just barely more than a month, but I'm unsure if that's right?
 
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please do some more. I've been waiting for someone to do a Inspired inventor or Celestial Forge in the Girl Genius setting. Ip or Cf are the only ones that could challenge a Spark and win if given some prep time . Especially CF because of all the support pers beyond the pure knowledge of one's. Inspired inventor might do it but would need more time and resources from the world. A Sparks have incredible natural intelligence, learning curve and adaptability. Without somebuild up time they would crush either one.
 
To those who know about the setting: did the war against this "Other" occur as it did in canon? Or are there changes hinting towards a possible connection with Joe?
 
DeusVult said:
To those who know about the setting: did the war against this "Other" occur as it did in canon? Or are there changes hinting towards a possible connection with Joe?
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Just as in cannon, from what I remember. The other was a powerful spark who the slaver wasps, and then was removed from play, with the damage they caused leading to the Baron decision to maintain order.
 
MarcusDeGabriel said:
I actually wonder how much REAL time has passed since he's gained his power, because I FEEL like it's either less than or just barely more than a month, but I'm unsure if that's right?
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Joe's Trigger happened while his sister Natalia was home from Spring Break. Chapter 65 is Easter Sunday, so it has only been a month or so of real time.

With the accelerated training simulations though, even Aisha has had YEARS of experience.
 
This side story is probably good for @LordRoustabout to relax and unwind, some of us may have forgotten, but BCF was originally an experimental jump chain fic that turned into a 2 million word door stopper of a novel that was wholly unexpected and can be attributed to his skill as an author. Although with all the loud loud criticism over his pacing has failed to stop him, a side project could breathe some new life and ideas back into the story. The pacing I feel is just right although we are getting one super large perk every other Joe POV. The universe of Girl Genius is perfect and washes away Joe's misconceptions, say would it be possible to bring anyone to Earth Bet or will Zion show up and GOLDBLAST!!^tm, them.
 
Everyone, list favourite reactions from people in other universes regarding him actually jump-chaining with the celestial forge instead of being stuck on Bet. I know people already wrote about PJO, Nasu and Canon worm. What about his existence as a full servant in the Grail Wars, or being in Dune fighting off sand worms with a magic knife? The possibilities are endless.
 
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MarcusDeGabriel said:
I actually wonder how much REAL time has passed since he's gained his power, because I FEEL like it's either less than or just barely more than a month, but I'm unsure if that's right?
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Was that a cry out for the Timeline?



The Timeline

Joe triggered on Friday April 1st, 2011

BCF started on Friday April 8th, 2011 (same day as canon Worm)

Current story time is Tuesday night, April 26th, 2011
 
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Everyone, list favourite reactions from people in other universes regarding him actually jump-chaining with the celestial forge instead of being stuck on Bet. I know people already wrote about PJO, Nasu and Canon worm. What about his existence as a full servant in the Grail Wars, or being in Dune fighting off sand worms with a magic knife? The possibilities are endless.
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His existence as a servant hmm, that would depend on which Grail War. Problem is that he would need to be as strong as he is now to stand a chance, otherwise he just gets destroyed by any servant. Joe as he is currently in main story would have an interesting conversation with Gilgamesh depending on the context. Lord has some WoG collected in the server about alt universe stuff
Gil's reaction to Joe would be interesting, considering he would probably view him as a heroic spirit first. Joe's heroic spirit is a combination of all unnamed crafters through history, which does technically mean some of them would have been from Uruk. Since Gil basically doesn't care about anything but his own kingdom he would probably tolerate Joe as a subject, allowing his continued existence, but not restraining himself from punishing defiance. The fact that Joe would have made a good portion of the contents of the Gates of Babylon (Basically anything without a documented creator) would also be a point in his favor.

Joe's reaction to Gil would probably be a lot less favorable, though he would be open to dialogue before actually coming to blows. I'm not going to get into a Gil vs Joe fight at the moment, but Joe is still physically and mentally indestructible, meaning soul attacks are Gil's only option, where Joe has a lot more attacks that could work on Gil than Gil has that could work on Joe. Really, the context of the meeting would be the biggest factor. Joe at the summit of kings in Fate Zero would be a very different thing than Joe thrown directly into an active Servant fight.

Sha Naqba Imuru would get nothing from Joe. Joe has built anti-divination devices capable of intercepting precognition on the level of what Sha Naqba Imuru can manage. Sha Naqba Imuru might be an EX ranked Noble Phantasm, but you don't need the same level of power in order to counter it. Perfect precognition is a lot more useful than the ability to block perfect precognition, so Joe has been able to counter it for a while now. Just the combination of Item Construction A+++ and Master Craftsman was enough for that.
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For Dune stuff I'm not familiar with setting, although the likely reaction would be jaws dropping so hard they'd be scooping sand at the image of a guy chopping up those giant worms with a weapon that most definitely shouldn't be doing it from a hundreds of meters away.
 
LordRoustabout said:
While I regret not being able to keep providing weekly chapters, I believe this will be for the best for both the story and my workload.
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I would absolutely prefer to have the story finish up over time than have half the chapters released at double speed and then an indefinite hiatus.

Even being purely selfish, I have every reason to want you to take care of yourself lol.
 
This is brilliant. Now I just have to see what happens if Joe is ever sent to work on Castle Heterodyne. The Castle's quite vocal confusion as Joe just beats all the death traps back into working order would be hilarious. Also, Joe's technical skill and physical durability make him prime Minion material in this setting and I look forward to seeing the various Sparks fight over him.
 
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Everyone, list favourite reactions from people in other universes regarding him actually jump-chaining with the celestial forge instead of being stuck on Bet.
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Overlord. Considering that any time they met an opponent who had ANY chance against them, they fucking lost, Nazarick's NPCs actually meeting someone they can't curbstomp no matter how hard they try would probably be enough to send most of them into shock. Reaction of them meeting a worthy opponent would be satisfying enough, let alone a bigger fish Joe has all potential to be/become. Maybe that will finally give them some attitude adjustment. They all awfully smug about their power when they can't even destroy a planet with it...

Okay, maybe things like Azura's Wrath, Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill destroyed any sense of power scaling I had, but still, I have a point. Despite all praises for their power they get, characters of Overlord are hilariously weak. A lot of parahumans from Worm can become a problem to them from just exotic powers alone. In comparison to Earth Bet Overlord's New World would be a vacation to Joe.

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Also, Joe's technical skill and physical durability make him prime Minion material in this setting and I look forward to seeing the various Sparks fight over him.
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Thinking about it, Joe is a learned doormat that ended up in a world where most sparks have unnatural charisma that lets them get support from people even if they are conducting monstrous experiments. Theoretically, without Mental Fortress, there is a high chance of him helping people he will regret associating with later on, kinda paralleling his mistake with Undersiders in main narrative.

And it so happens that Joe might meet a soon-to-be un-Locked girl, associating with which he might regret a bit on account of her putting him in too hot of a water when he has so little perks to himself. Somehow, still better than meeting Taylor.
 
LordRoustabout said:
Honestly, I was half done before I realized it might be a bit easier if I actually shut off the engine. I mean, it wasn't an obstacle thanks to my Black thumb power, but to allow the repairs to hold I needed to get a bit creative. Efficient use of the parts and materials, a few acts of creative repurposing of 'spare' components, and a few more cheats to make up for the places where those spares had been removed from.
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Finally, he's officially a Blackthumb that Chumbucket would give a nod of acknowledgement to.
 
Slentoru said:
Overlord. Considering that any time they met an opponent who had ANY chance against them, they fucking lost, Nazarick's NPCs actually meeting someone they can't curbstomp no matter how hard they try would probably be enough to send most of them into shock. Reaction of them meeting a worthy opponent would be satisfying enough, let alone a bigger fish Joe has all potential to be/become. Maybe that will finally give them some attitude adjustment. They all awfully smug about their power when they can't even destroy a planet with it...

Okay, maybe things like Azura's Wrath, Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill destroyed any sense of power scaling I had, but still, I have a point. Despite all praises for their power they get, characters of Overlord are hilariously weak. A lot of parahumans from Worm can become a problem to them from just exotic powers alone. In comparison to Earth Bet Overlord's New World would be a vacation to Joe.
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Overlord may not be casually destroy mountains level but it does have a lot of strong abilities like time stops and instant death effects that would still provide a big challenge even to a forger. Additionally, they have the rather large advantage of speed and strength even pure casters end up with being a lot faster and stronger than a normal person. Compare that to Joe where until he became a servant with Item Construction A+++ his main speed boosts were using life fibers to flash step and rwby aura. Due to all of that if it stays at Joe lifted from chapter 3 he would not be worthy opponent level for Nazarick for a very long time and he probably wouldn't even reach it if he went against them too soon and got stomped.
 
famfrit said:
Overlord may not be casually destroy mountains level but it does have a lot of strong abilities like time stops and instant death effects that would still provide a big challenge even to a forger. Additionally, they have the rather large advantage of speed and strength even pure casters end up with being a lot faster and stronger than a normal person. Compare that to Joe where until he became a servant with Item Construction A+++ his main speed boosts were using life fibers to flash step and rwby aura. Due to all of that if it stays at Joe lifted from chapter 3 he would not be worthy opponent level for Nazarick for a very long time and he probably wouldn't even reach it if he went against them too soon and got stomped.
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I mean, it really depends on when Joe is dropped in in the Overlord Timeline. Like, a decade prior to Ainz's group being plopped down, and Ainz would be toast, no matter which way you put it, even if the perk progression was kept the same over the extended time period.
 
famfrit said:
Due to all of that if it stays at Joe lifted from chapter 3 he would not be worthy opponent level for Nazarick for a very long time and he probably wouldn't even reach it if he went against them too soon and got stomped.
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Arguable, considering Evermore Alchemy and it's capabilities, Joe of chapter 3 would have pretty good chances to survive and escape most of the encounters (Or even win, if he prepared enough, Evermore Alchemy is no joke, and Fashion can carry him a long way), and he is smarter than to start a battle he knows nothing of. With Joe getting Overlord's perk in chapter 15, if he jumps from there, he would also be much harder to kill thanks to Rex's Nanites and will have engineering capabilities to be a theoretically dangerous even to some Floor Guardians (Transformers tech + elemental weaponry = bullshit, as proven by motoroid).

Of course, being theoretically dangerous does not mean putting that theory to practise, and even with all those perks at the start Joe would not be a match to most of NPCs, let alone a worthy opponent. I never said the opposite, I just said that comparatively, they are weak and can't even hope to present the same danger Worm does. It's just a fact, whatever they try, Nazarick will never eclipse in bullshit Endbringers, Zion and even some paras like Eidolon, Gray Boy, Fairy Queen and so on. Earth Bet is just that shit.

Also, "Very long time" is a moot. Joe's rate of grow is a meme for a reason, so if he latches onto the canon events same way he did with Worm, he will be a big fish in a small pond by the time Zurrernorn of E-Rantel dealt with.
 
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