There is a teensy bit of trust problem with those. With the whole Prince of Lies thing, and coming from an eldritch powerset.
Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
- Thread starter LordRoustabout
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- Location
- Philippines
Usually when they feel like they can get away with it, which is most of the time. At the moment though, since nobody has much of an idea of how the Celestial Forge would react if they tried spinning it in a way that is advantageous to them, it's WoG that Alexandria is currently playing it safe and planning to be as neutral as possible. It was one thing when it was just Apeiron - and that was largely because of Piggot anyway, which also limited it to the Brockton Bay since that was as far as her control over the news agencies covered - but now that Apeiron has a team? Yeah, no, they're not going to poke the sleeping dragon.
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- She/They
Even if they do, Survey is probably the world's greatest astroturf campaign in one knowledge-obsessed package.
To be fair Hell isn't necessarily another universe, for all Joe knows Hell has always been where souls from Earth Bet go when they die. He doesn't know it's specifically Hell from Fallen London which is an alternate universe.
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- He/Him
one
marina?
I dont believe this is grammatically incorrect, but it is a mouthful. Probably clearer to just say "should almost be able to"
- Location
- Adelaide, Australia
stood alone. It
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James Tagg's secret power (PinkShadowReader)
- Location
- Deep inside the sand
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- He/Him/His
James Tagg's secret power
James Tagg sat behind his desk a late evening. He had to do overtime again. Normally he would have had gone home this late. However ever since Ungodly Hour, power shifts has become drastic enough that the whole USA has been affected.
It was ironic. Many had ridiculed Director Piggot's decisions to postpone the most recent problems only to get caught in them as the band-aids creates more problems than what would have happened.
People found themselves caught by surprise by 4-16 North East Blackout and have been postponing problems since then. Then they got caught in surprisingly good timed attacks and coordinated disasters, whose architect only revealed themselves on Tuesday evening. They found themselves out matched and requesting support, only that they were one part of many that requested it. Creating even more problems.
So many problems could have been solved before it become critical if only people talked more with each other. Especially parahumans, a normal human caught in a situation would try to deescalate. A parahuman would try to 'solve' it by using their powers. To not considerate others position or situation.
Too many times had he been called too hard, too inconsiderate because he refused to bow to criminal scum and took a hard stance against them. He knew his view of criminals, desperate people and villains was because of his time in the army. He had been one of many who had responded to Lausanne, and Simurgh's first appearance.
The following two years was gunning down all problem makers, ziz bombs and scum. They couldn't rehabilitate the captured victims. It has been proven that they would only play nice until the right moment and then they would cause as much damage as possible.
It had been too many times could a problem been solved if one took direct action. As he climbed through the ranks he solved all problems that came against him. He found his love of his life during that time. He and his wife had two beautiful daughters. They were the most beautiful ones he had ever seen. He and Amanda had quite a bit of a problem to chase away women that kept showing up despite his marriage. Though it was fortunate his wife was so understanding his problem. Many wouldn't be.
Amanda had protested that he shouldn't have to do containment duty. She had said that he had changed since then and not for the better. That he should have requested for an another task or enlistment. He had disagreed, his work makes so that their daughters can grow up in peace. A world without the insanity that one has to do in the name of war. A war that is being sieged against humanity. A invisible war for food, resources, metals and infrastructure. Because of dangerous warlords of grand delusions and Endbringers.
Though he hadn't disagreed on his change for worse. He had problems sleeping and PTSD. Sure, he managed to head off any personal disasters but issues is not just solved because one knows of the problem. It would take took time and effort to go on therapy, both of which he felt he didn't have time do to.
In retrospect it was foolish to wait until he got therapy. He alienated many people because of those issues. Since then he had taken time to do therapy, doing many intro-spectrum training to be sensitive to his own consciousness. It even helped against minor stranger- and master powers. It made him unfortunate aware of his faults too. So it wasn't like he was blind to his faults. He knew what he was good at and what he had to concentrate to be better at. He had even recommended his form of therapy to others but the majority didn't like owning up their faults.
He finished his documents and packed away his things. He took time to get ready. His wife had her friends to be with tonight so it wasn't like he had someone waiting on him back home. In the mirror a forty year old man with black hair looked back at him with tired heavily lined eyes and thick eyebrows.
Suddenly his door was knocked on before a lady in a black suit entered. It wasn't a standard PRT uniform, it was a mix of a militaristic and a formal suit.
"Director Tagg. I'm Anne Frank. Remember when you asked for a MRI scan if you could trigger in line of duty? Yes, looks like you've already done that."
"Wh-?" He caught himself before his mouth fell open.
"Our thinkers has confirmed that your power is a mix of shaker and master power. It just takes a certain amount of time to ramp up." She continued like it wasn't something impossible.
"But, but-", he tried to get a word in.
"Here are your power set in detail and the proof." She handed him a lenghty compendium. "Long story short, your power is a 'bomb attractor.'"
She actually smiled a bit when she said the last two words. Only it wasn't very funny.
"Maybe you have noticed all these kinds of bombs that have been swinging your way. First it was only mastered victims, then bombshells both literally and figuratively. Until your most recent suitor in Brockton Bay, it has gone unnoticed at exactly what scale it has been working on." Then she flicks to the next image, a certain bomber in Brockton's Bay showing her latest demand for PRT.
"'1 Director James Tagg per 794 hostages.' Is that what triggered it?"
"In a way," she continued to show pictures, "this one is much more concerning."
A picture on Simurgh with a sign 'If Director James Tagg x Simurgh then no more attacks. Forever.' in bold text, and wasn't that an extremely bad omen to be part of.
"Shit. What is my options?"
"It has been decided that you will be recycled. Surely can satisfy both Bakuda and Simurgh simultaneously. Bakuda's confidence took a hit because of Lady Khepri, but I'm sure that she'll do what ever it will take to be in your good grace. Just as Simurgh knows that she isn't in humanity's good standing so she will most likely accept to be part of your harem."
His mouth went dry. Harem. Harem. Harem. Shit.
"You and your family will be compensated of course." Her eyes most definitely had mirth in them now.
"A few thinker groups decided to check if your wife had hard feelings and they revealed that this is something she has hots for." Her eyes most positively radiated with mirth.
"Amanda Tagg, Bakuda Tagg and Simmy Tagg. When will you marry the latter two? Do not worry the USA's government, DARPA, DHS, DIA, DOD, DOE, FBI, INR, ISR, NRO, NGA, NSA, ONI, TFI, USSS and PRT will help you to get your marriage in order."
"Congratulations." Her eyes shone with delight. She was definitely laughing at him.
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Barbaric Bob
The Barbaric One
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- Soon to be plundering a village near you
ya know I keep forgetting Aisha is now probably Bet's smartest non parahuman augmented human ((demi)gods excluded)
wonder how high the PRT will label her bullshit Super Schooling on their scale
Tinker 2~5 With her practical applications and Applied Alchemy
Thinker 2~5 with her theoretical knowledge
would alchemy fall under Shaker, Striker or Trump? the setup takes ages but its applications are such bullshit
wonder how high the PRT will label her bullshit Super Schooling on their scale
Tinker 2~5 With her practical applications and Applied Alchemy
Thinker 2~5 with her theoretical knowledge
would alchemy fall under Shaker, Striker or Trump? the setup takes ages but its applications are such bullshit
I'm not sure her theoretical knowledge would give her a thinker rating. Except maybe because she could use it to destabilise the economy or something?
I don't see how alchemy could give Aisha a striker or trump rating, given how bad she is at it. She just isn't fast enough for either. Well, maybe a low trump rating for rapid weapon manufacture? It depends on exactly how fast she is, and whether something like that counts as a trump power.
Probably just Shaker as Aisha practices it, Striker would require her to attain more speed as @Squamous Deity mentioned.
Trump - I don't see that at all, except maaaybe if she goes into chimera manufacturing and slams two (or more) parahumans together. I suppose it is possible that she could transplant the corona into another person, but that's like, way way way down the line.
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Honestly, setting aside Apeiron-based factors, even the current Butcher is going to play it safe.
She came to the flaming mess that is BB on just March's word that something might be doable to prevent herself from becoming yet another acreaming voice in her successor's (because face it, it is very likely to happen at some point) head. Now that there IS legitimate possibility through Miracle Tinker That Tinkers with Powers, I doubt Quarrel would be inclined to risk it now that there's actual light at the end of the tunnel.
That said Tinker isn't very well-disposed to helping her is her current problem.
If she was smart, the Butcher would be thinking up ways to bribe/convince the supposedly mercenary rogue to accept a contract to solve her problem. Or searching for March's research in hopes of salvaging something.
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Goodness, people would be seriously freaking out if they realized that Joe could teach anyone to make tinker tech. Armmaster would also be very jealous of Aisha's ability to just will things into existence. I wonder whether Aisha will be using things she makes in the field and how people will react if so. It'll probably strengthen the cluster trigger theory.
I'm rather surprised how jarringly wrong Survey and Garment are about Parian's thoughts. I guess I've gotten used to Joe's use of Dragon Pulse to accurately read people's emotions.
I wonder how much longer it will be before Survey discovers Coil's base and his computer systems. That would allow Joe to start planning for Noelle in advance and probably allow him to reassure Tattletale. Haha no wait Tattletale is impossible to reassure because she wants to be the architect of things.
It's cool that Joe is getting close to finishing the computer upgrade. Bakuda is going to be sorely disappointed by the forthcoming 'All your bombs are belong to us.' The Protectorate is also going to freak out about Joe solving provably impossible computational challenges.
I'm curious how much useful information about RWBY will be derived from the book. That'll be an interesting thread to have followed up on.
Rolls Analysis
Personal Reality (200-200): Additional space expands the volume of Joe's storage by 1000x each time and enhances several other warehouse extensions including notably the garage. Where it adds 5 additional vehicle bays and expands the size of each vehicle bay by 5 in every direction. While Additional Space is repeatable it isn't the only mote in this cluster. The other mote is Adaptive Inactive Storage which can store anything purchased with CP in perfect stasis away from the all possible influences. The document implies this is only available between jumps but it seems possible that things like the Prismatic Laboratory could potentially be stored.
Toolkits (100): Joe had a 2/3 chance to roll either 'The Toolkit' which is a repair upgrade allowing you to rebuild things with a fraction of the parts that would normally be required or yet another Workshop of some description. Instead Joe was unable to obtain one of the few 800 point perks Orb Design Plans which are plans to create an autonomous learning and growing machine fiat backed to be able to repair anything that slowly builds itself a grander and grander body. So you know a new friend for Tetra and the rest of the crew.
Size (200): Size is currently composed of three options priced at 400, 600 and 600. The four hundred point perk is the long awaited one that unleashes Kerbals into the workshop. There's also a fiat-backed automated repair watch for nearby tech that another perk Joe has specifically says he can upgrade and a massive transformer's tech factory that gives Joe a transformers body he can combine into.
Personal Reality (300-200): Extranet is obviously not repeatable but there is an additional mote in the cluster that's still available to be obtained later that grants fiat backed sim cards to connect to the workshop and any nearby cellular network. It also grants a vending machine that manufactures arbitrary amounts of phones.
Capstone (200-100): Bigger on the inside is one of the two perks Joe could have rolled out of ten different clusters. The other affordable cluster is monstrous strength which apparently grants Joe an inhuman form, according to Lord the strangeness of this form will be concealed in the Percy Jackson style. The other bonus of this is that it enhances all of Joe's unnatural skills in proportion to how obviously unnatural your current form is. Lord has previously said that this means that using the Zooanthrope form will result in a significant boost.
Note: I think Extra space as the perk name is a mistake and the correct title is Additional space based on the description text and reading the underlying jumpdoc.
I'm rather surprised how jarringly wrong Survey and Garment are about Parian's thoughts. I guess I've gotten used to Joe's use of Dragon Pulse to accurately read people's emotions.
I wonder how much longer it will be before Survey discovers Coil's base and his computer systems. That would allow Joe to start planning for Noelle in advance and probably allow him to reassure Tattletale. Haha no wait Tattletale is impossible to reassure because she wants to be the architect of things.
It's cool that Joe is getting close to finishing the computer upgrade. Bakuda is going to be sorely disappointed by the forthcoming 'All your bombs are belong to us.' The Protectorate is also going to freak out about Joe solving provably impossible computational challenges.
I'm curious how much useful information about RWBY will be derived from the book. That'll be an interesting thread to have followed up on.
Rolls Analysis
Personal Reality (200-200): Additional space expands the volume of Joe's storage by 1000x each time and enhances several other warehouse extensions including notably the garage. Where it adds 5 additional vehicle bays and expands the size of each vehicle bay by 5 in every direction. While Additional Space is repeatable it isn't the only mote in this cluster. The other mote is Adaptive Inactive Storage which can store anything purchased with CP in perfect stasis away from the all possible influences. The document implies this is only available between jumps but it seems possible that things like the Prismatic Laboratory could potentially be stored.
Toolkits (100): Joe had a 2/3 chance to roll either 'The Toolkit' which is a repair upgrade allowing you to rebuild things with a fraction of the parts that would normally be required or yet another Workshop of some description. Instead Joe was unable to obtain one of the few 800 point perks Orb Design Plans which are plans to create an autonomous learning and growing machine fiat backed to be able to repair anything that slowly builds itself a grander and grander body. So you know a new friend for Tetra and the rest of the crew.
Size (200): Size is currently composed of three options priced at 400, 600 and 600. The four hundred point perk is the long awaited one that unleashes Kerbals into the workshop. There's also a fiat-backed automated repair watch for nearby tech that another perk Joe has specifically says he can upgrade and a massive transformer's tech factory that gives Joe a transformers body he can combine into.
Personal Reality (300-200): Extranet is obviously not repeatable but there is an additional mote in the cluster that's still available to be obtained later that grants fiat backed sim cards to connect to the workshop and any nearby cellular network. It also grants a vending machine that manufactures arbitrary amounts of phones.
Capstone (200-100): Bigger on the inside is one of the two perks Joe could have rolled out of ten different clusters. The other affordable cluster is monstrous strength which apparently grants Joe an inhuman form, according to Lord the strangeness of this form will be concealed in the Percy Jackson style. The other bonus of this is that it enhances all of Joe's unnatural skills in proportion to how obviously unnatural your current form is. Lord has previously said that this means that using the Zooanthrope form will result in a significant boost.
Note: I think Extra space as the perk name is a mistake and the correct title is Additional space based on the description text and reading the underlying jumpdoc.
- Location
- Philippines
She does have access to a lesser version of Joe's alchemy, which includes the energy sense, do that alone would already constitute a Thinker rating that would only get higher as her mastery increases. The material analysis step of Alchemy also counts as a Thinker power.
Alchemy itself will probably come as a Striker/Shaker ability, not high level but with the potential to be. Her knowledge will also give her a Tinker rating at this point, while her Aura will give her Brute.
Aisha using obviously non-Apeiron grade tinkertech and using Alchemy in the field is probably only going to reinforce the cluster theory, especially if she starts bragging about making her own tech in public.
Considering CF is believed to be a cluster and Apeiron already has a Trump rating, I really do not see them not slapping a Trump rating to every member of CF.
at cross-purposes
The problem with giving ratings to alchemy is the canon/fanon divide. In canon the ratings are for the troopers to know and use to respond to capes so its done by what category does it act like and need to be treated as for countermeasures. In fanon its how does it actually work. This leads to cases like Dragon she is technically a thinker specialised in understanding and reproducing tinker tech but she is rated as a thinker because that's how you respond to her. Parian is another her power is a shaker one but she uses it as a master so that's what she'd be under in briefings. It is possible though for sub ratings to apply especially for tinkers. Albeit this is limited by their own understanding.
With Alchemy this boils down to its mechanically a striker effect since you form the arrays and touch them but it would get treated as a shaker one depending on what is done with it. Ed's use for example of doing things like touching the ground to make pillars is striker but Mustang's of snapping his fingers and causing a ranged explosion would be rated as shaker despite still needing the arrays that are on the gloves making it as a striker effect. So a proper rating is probably striker main with things like shaker, stranger (Sophia gets one for being able to go through walls), mover, brute, tinker and then a few like trump and blaster that may get tacked on.
With Alchemy this boils down to its mechanically a striker effect since you form the arrays and touch them but it would get treated as a shaker one depending on what is done with it. Ed's use for example of doing things like touching the ground to make pillars is striker but Mustang's of snapping his fingers and causing a ranged explosion would be rated as shaker despite still needing the arrays that are on the gloves making it as a striker effect. So a proper rating is probably striker main with things like shaker, stranger (Sophia gets one for being able to go through walls), mover, brute, tinker and then a few like trump and blaster that may get tacked on.
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- Darth
I kind of want to see what would happen if 'Bigger on the Inside' got released to the general public. Apeiron suddenly giving everyone not only the tech but what is a replicatable superpower not connected to a parasite.
snrbryjm
Newtons Third Law in action
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Immediate nuclear level freakout, replicating superpowers are a MASSIVE no-no. If anyone knew the CF could say a few words and make a army of people with powers BB would be locked off faster than you can say 'containment zone'. And those people could also spread the power, making it even worse. It was discussed when Aura was still pretty new in the story
I thought she didn't have access to the energy sense, since it was mentioned in this chapter that even Survey doesn't have access to the Dragon Pulse. Unless the 'energy sense' is separate from the Dragon Pulse? I'm not familiar with the setting this alchemy comes from. I agree with your other points.
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- Somewhere in The Woods
If you can't brute-force a problem, you're not using enough of it!
Narsauce
The Crucible Shitlord
- Location
- Here, there and everywhere
That's the Entities line of thinking, and it's worked well so far.If you can't brute-force a problem, you're not using enough of it!
Jack Slash: *AOL Dial-Up Noises*
Bonesaw, surrounded by surgical tools and poking at Jack's exposed brain: I don't understand! No matter what I futz around with, this just won't stop!
- Location
- Philippines
She does have Dragon Pulse. She has not mastered it into an unnatural level like Joe who could use it to read emotional responses, but she did use it to detect the E88 coming before the meeting.
Same goes for Survey actually. It's worth noting that Joe's mastery and usage of Dragon Pulse is beyond mortal ken - which means he needs at least a week or so to help other people reach the same heights instead of instantly.
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