"I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away..."
"...Asuka, why are you mumbling?"
Interesting thought, to be sure, but with Asuka's character, I don't see it. Her coping mechanism is much too different.
You haven't, by any chance, been watching Stargate: SG-1 recently, have you?
Good ideas are oft inspired or pinched from others.

I could really see this, MisterHalt, but I already have two and a half stories I'm working on and currently too much RL to even do that.

Maybe one of our probies wants to step up? :p
 
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I actually thought about this a bit last night while waiting to fall asleep.

Let's ignore how Shinji gets Unit-01 moving, because that doesn't matter. What I thought of was Unit-01 essentially rugby tackling Asuka to try and get it out of the beam. Doesn't work, of course, the beam just follows. But when it finishes refocusing, Unit-02's on the ground with Unit-01 on top, trying to cover it. Since they're both in the beam, but Shinji's 'first', all his horrible memories get shared with Asuka. And the way Shinji lost his mother is just as bad (if not worse than) Asuka's tragedy.

End result: Shinji ends up catatonic or close to it after that memory gets dragged fully to the surface, and realises that he's sitting in the thing that ate his mother. While Asuka still got a bad part of the mind-rape, she sees that Shinji's past is just as traumatic as hers. That's enough to get her moving to pull Shinji out of his Eva and into a hug. The magical power of a cooldown hug goes to work on both of them, a bit of WAFF and 'we're both the same' happens, and bam. Divergence.

Oh, and everybody hates Gendo Ikari even more. Win win!
Won't work, he already knows Yui is inside Unit 01 and that she is jogging control of fun options like regeneration and infinite power.
He calls her out just before Eva rectivates against Zeruel and that is only repressed memory we know of that is important. After that you are left with issues that already somewhat reached their resolution or far from mindbreaking.

More interesting point is Asuka getting informations needed to figure out her mother is in Unit 02.

As for post battle hug, there was that scene on roof overlooking her Eva where Asuka sits behind quarantine tape and Shinji comes to check on her (and fuck up some by listening when she says she doesn't need help).
 
Won't work, he already knows Yui is inside Unit 01
Nope.

He had repressed his memories of the Contact Experiment and only when Ritsuko shows him and Misato around Terminal Dogma does he realise he watched his mother's 'demise'. Though he begins to suspect something even before that, he doesn't make any connections until (if even) then.
 
Nope.

He had repressed his memories of the Contact Experiment and only when Ritsuko shows him and Misato around Terminal Dogma does he realise he watched his mother's 'demise'. Though he begins to suspect something even before that, he doesn't make any connections until (if even) then.
Just before he dissolves into core during fight against Zeruel he adress Yui directly.
 
Just before he dissolves into core during fight against Zeruel he adress Yui directly.

Ah but remember, at this point in the original canon he knows something is up because of the battle with Leliel, which happened prior to the battle with Bardiel. He doesn't remember or know why he thinks his mom is inside Unit-01, but he can't deny that something happened. So yes, he still has repressed memories by this point, but in the OT at this point he sees the thread that connecting his mother to Unit-01... BUT he doesn't know why. It's that itch caused by repressed memories nagging at you... that you try and run away from or bury away or outright dismiss as nothing...
 
Ah but remember, at this point in the original canon he knows something is up because of the battle with Leliel, which happened prior to the battle with Bardiel. He doesn't remember or know why he thinks his mom is inside Unit-01, but he can't deny that something happened. So yes, he still has repressed memories by this point, but in the OT at this point he sees the thread that connecting his mother to Unit-01... BUT he doesn't know why. It's that itch caused by repressed memories nagging at you... that you try and run away from or bury away or outright dismiss as nothing...
Point is he knows she is there and that Evas can absorb people. Add that he knows there is no body and he'd figure it out if not for more pressing matters.
He may not know how it happened or why but knows it did, somehow.
 
Ok, now that it's evening, I can take this more fully. Kaji's employer is only mentioned briefly in the series, mentioned some more in the manga, and only really clearly laid out in the Red Cross Book and other canon published materials. Kaji is a quadruple agent: A UN inspector who is spying for SEELE but who is really spying on SEELE for NERV but really working for the JMoI. Though as his suicidal last run shows, he's really just using all of that for his own quest for the truth.

Kaji's ultimate employer is the Japanese Ministry of the Interior, not SEELE. He's assigned to infiltrate NERV and find out what they're really up to, since the official story of Second Impact is known to be just that, a story. His cover is 'UN Inspector', and as such he is able to act as a public official, moving between NERV bases, checking out things like the Marduk Institute. This is what you see him doing in Episode 15, checking out buildings nominally being part of the Institute. In the course of his investigation, he uncovers the existence of SEELE, and somehow makes contact with Gendo (these two things are likely linked) and when in NERV-3 Berlin, steals Adam from SEELE somehow (You'd think they'd have ALL THE SECURITY on that) to deliver it to Gendo. This is the package he considers so important he ditches Misato and the Children and flies away when Gaghiel attacks the fleet.

He is trained as a spy and infiltrator, and does his job very well if he managed to snake Adam out from under Kihl Lorenz and SEELE. But there can only be a very small number of people who #1) know Adam even exists and #2) had access or even a chance to be near it. Once SEELE figured out it was stolen, they probably fingered Kaji as the culprit pretty quickly. When SEELE had Fuyutsuki kidnapped as a 'we known what you're up to' warning to Gendo, Kaji breaking in to rescue him is the last straw. Fuyutsuki even says so to him on the way out: 'This will cost you your life'. 'I just want to get closer to the truth,' Kaji replies. Gendo is sometimes suggested as the culprit for shooting Kaji, but I assess this as unlikely: He just rescued Fuyutsuki, and SEELE already knows where Adam has to have gone. There's no reason for Gendo to need to 'get rid of someone who might talk'.

When called on to settle the debate that Misato might have shot him, Anno definitively said no, it was a never-seen-as-a-character low-level gunman, not Misato.

Kaji didn't have a 'lack of interest in anything outside of his job'. He was in fact obsessed with discovering the truth behind Second Impact and the parties behind it, as a way of atoning for the failures that got his brother and friends killed in the aftermath of the Impact Wars. This obsession is what drives him to keep hunting, even when it becomes clear SEELE is going to kill him. That's what makes him leave what is basically an audio suicide note for Misato, and show no surprise when the killer appears. ('Yo. You're late.') He knew it was coming, and didn't even try to fight back.

Misato wasn't confused by his quest. She knew him too well, and by the time of the 'bedroom' scene, she's pretty much fully on-board with it. She's the one Kaji trusts to leave his accumulated discoveries and hacking tools to in that pill. That's the most heartbreaking part, and what makes Misato break down when she hears the message: She knows it means he's not coming back from this last mission, despite the fact that he and Misato had just gotten back together. He and Misato understood each other all too well at the end.

He's not surprised by Asuka's crush on him, though he is uncomfortable. She's half his age, and he's never gotten over Misato. When Asuka tries her clumsy, beer-fueled 'seduction' of him on the Over The Rainbow, his primary emotion isn't shock, its distraction: He has someone else on his mind, someone he's going to see tomorrow for the first time in years, yet who still consumes his thoughts. He tries to aim Asuka at Shinji, but mostly just ignores her attempts to 'woo' him, something that pushes Asuka to try ever-increasing tricks to get his attention, such as the 'HELP, I'M BEING KIDNAPPED! AAA!' phone call.

His 'seduction' shot at Maya doesn't seem serious. It mostly came off as a 'I'll see if I can sneak some MAGI access, but mostly annoy Misato who I can hear coming'. And Ritsuko (who clearly knows Kaji isn't being serious) is old college friends messing around (does Ritsuko look shocked or upset? Not at all, just amused), and again, annoying Misato. Why all the yanking on Misato's chain? Because even after 8 years, Kaji's never gotten over her lying to him about there being 'someone else' and her dumping him when they started to get serious. So he 'teases' her. Because to two emotionally scarred people like him and Misato, 'teasing' is a lot less frightening than being sincere.


To those of you hoping this was an update Alert, be calm: Update soon. 2000 words done, trying to wrap up the scene. Tomorrow, maybe.
I thought you guys were kidding when you said you had to go dig into supplemental material to get all the info. The only thing I'm right about is calling Kaji an idiotes and even then I'm wrong because idiotes has many many definitions and the one I used is the wrong one to use to describe someone like Kaji. And yes what Strypgia said about Kaji's character here is another definition of idiotes, but it's not the one I used so I'm completely wrong on everything I've said or thought about Kaji so far.

Thank you for setting me straight @Strypgia.
 
honestly i think it would have caused him to relive the day of the contact experiment, not Asuka's memory, but that is just my thoughts
Reading what I said, I see why people think that's the idea I had. I meant something rather more mundane with 'shared experience', namely that both know what it feels like to have your mind violated like that.

Ok, I found it and it was indeed under my bed. So, this would have just been my own personal AU. Some things I did have:

1. Given the heavy use of Judaeo-Christian symbolism I was going to have a total of 40 angels: which counted the canonical 18, the two from the first two Rebuild movies, a few from the extra-canonical and pre-production plans, and a few good ones from the Angel-Eva Creation Competitions over on the EvaGeeks Forums. I can go into detail about this if anyone is interested. Though I will mention that two from the competitions were a Tree with clear spring symbolism, and an ice dragon that brings winter to Japan for the first time in 15 years. It gave me the idea that contrary to SEELE's belief that humanity needed to evolve as the angels were defated the changes that were made to the biosphere were slowly being reversed.

2. I wanted to make it a more global affair as well as having more Evas, which makes sense with the increased # of angels. This would include Mari.

3. Unknown to everyone involved Yui had been pregnant during the Contact Experiment. While she herself was absorbed her unborn child was not. The genetic material from this unborn child became the basis for Rei.

4. I don't know who here is familiar with the Eberron campaign setting from D&D but in it there is a thing called the Draconic Prophecy. It amounts to a long list of prophecized happenings. Long lived people try to play the game of the Prophecy because how it works is that these passages can be interpreted in different ways. It becomes trying to make the present coincide to your interpretation to get the next series of events you want. If you want z to happen you need to make sure x happens how you want to get to y. If x happens differently you could get b instead. You may be able to manipulate it back towards z but it could just as easily become c. If that makes sense. Anyways, in addition to the instruction manual this is how the Secret Dead Sea Scrolls would have worked, having long lists of prophetic combinations that had been passed down through the millenia. I would have had translated passages from the Dead Sea Scrolls at the beginning of (relevant) chapters. The first for example would have started something like, "The Prince returns to the city of his birth after many long years. It will be the beginning of the tribulations he will face that will see him rise up and become a legend." The twist for this first one...

5. Shinji runs into another boy on the train that is also going to Tokyo 3 and, unknown to him, also fits the prophetic criteria. Kaworu. Now it is absolutely imperative to Gendo's plans that Shinji get in the fucking robot. If he doesn't and Kaworu does he will be interpreted as the Prince figure and Gendo will have to go into some serious backup plans.

6. The second-to-last final prophecized messenger/angel is one in the form of a man but with a greater angel's soul. There are two that fit this criteria. As the other angels are destroyed both feel the urge to return to their greater self. When it is Kaworu that sacrifices himself against Armisael out of his love for Shinji the urge becomes too great and it is Rei that becomes the final angel trying to reunite with Lilith. Gendo is a complete shell by that point because he knows with Kaworu dead his ace-in-the-hole must be destroyed as the final angel.

It would have been interesting, I just had too much real life stuff on my plate plus way too little skill as a writer to ever do it justice.
Pity, that sounds like just the kind of thing I'd like to read.
 
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Ok, I found it and it was indeed under my bed. So, this would have just been my own personal AU. Some things I did have:

1. Given the heavy use of Judaeo-Christian symbolism I was going to have a total of 40 angels: which counted the canonical 18, the two from the first two Rebuild movies, a few from the extra-canonical and pre-production plans, and a few good ones from the Angel-Eva Creation Competitions over on the EvaGeeks Forums. I can go into detail about this if anyone is interested. Though I will mention that two from the competitions were a Tree with clear spring symbolism, and an ice dragon that brings winter to Japan for the first time in 15 years. It gave me the idea that contrary to SEELE's belief that humanity needed to evolve as the angels were defated the changes that were made to the biosphere were slowly being reversed.

2. I wanted to make it a more global affair as well as having more Evas, which makes sense with the increased # of angels. This would include Mari.

3. Unknown to everyone involved Yui had been pregnant during the Contact Experiment. While she herself was absorbed her unborn child was not. The genetic material from this unborn child became the basis for Rei.

4. I don't know who here is familiar with the Eberron campaign setting from D&D but in it there is a thing called the Draconic Prophecy. It amounts to a long list of prophecized happenings. Long lived people try to play the game of the Prophecy because how it works is that these passages can be interpreted in different ways. It becomes trying to make the present coincide to your interpretation to get the next series of events you want. If you want z to happen you need to make sure x happens how you want to get to y. If x happens differently you could get b instead. You may be able to manipulate it back towards z but it could just as easily become c. If that makes sense. Anyways, in addition to the instruction manual this is how the Secret Dead Sea Scrolls would have worked, having long lists of prophetic combinations that had been passed down through the millenia. I would have had translated passages from the Dead Sea Scrolls at the beginning of (relevant) chapters. The first for example would have started something like, "The Prince returns to the city of his birth after many long years. It will be the beginning of the tribulations he will face that will see him rise up and become a legend." The twist for this first one...

5. Shinji runs into another boy on the train that is also going to Tokyo 3 and, unknown to him, also fits the prophetic criteria. Kaworu. Now it is absolutely imperative to Gendo's plans that Shinji get in the fucking robot. If he doesn't and Kaworu does he will be interpreted as the Prince figure and Gendo will have to go into some serious backup plans.

6. The second-to-last final prophecized messenger/angel is one in the form of a man but with a greater angel's soul. There are two that fit this criteria. As the other angels are destroyed both feel the urge to return to their greater self. When it is Kaworu that sacrifices himself against Armisael out of his love for Shinji the urge becomes too great and it is Rei that becomes the final angel trying to reunite with Lilith. Gendo is a complete shell by that point because he knows with Kaworu dead his ace-in-the-hole must be destroyed as the final angel.

It would have been interesting, I just had too much real life stuff on my plate plus way too little skill as a writer to ever do it justice.
SOMEONE WRITE THIS!

...Ahem.
 
SOMEONE WRITE THIS!

...Ahem.
I'd consider it, but I have 2 stories underway atm and a backlog of ideas.

Including an Avatar: The Last Air Bender AU which is a giant parody of Evangelion with various characters filling the roles of Eva characters (Zuko -> Shinji, Azula -> Rei, Ozai -> Gendo etc.).

But getting back on topic: Kaji - to die or not to die?
 
Uh @Strypgia is it canon or fanon that Yui Ikari knew she was going to get absorbed into Unit 01? I'm asking because in episode 21 Ritsuko's mom says that she didn't warn anybody about the risk of absorbing occurring in order to get rid of Yui so she could be with Gendo. I know you already said what you think Yui's motivations were, but I'm asking if you are using your own ideas here or is it canon that Yui knew she was going to get absorbed.
 
Just finished reading Genocide, and I will state one thing, a truth that should be immediately apparent upon witnessing the MP Evas rising once more after being broken.

...

GO FOR THE CORES, YOU IDIOTS!

But seriously, it had me sitting on the edge of my seat almost the whole damn time. Really impressed.
 
Uh @Strypgia is it canon or fanon that Yui Ikari knew she was going to get absorbed into Unit 01? I'm asking because in episode 21 Ritsuko's mom says that she didn't warn anybody about the risk of absorbing occurring in order to get rid of Yui so she could be with Gendo. I know you already said what you think Yui's motivations were, but I'm asking if you are using your own ideas here or is it canon that Yui knew she was going to get absorbed.
That's been answered in the character notes on her, Gendo, and her motivations.
Additionally, look here.
 
That reminds me of a question I've had for some time. As is suggested on that page, the Dead Sea Scrolls are actually a manual regarding the Seeds of Life and the Spears. Many fanfic authors instead seem to think the Scrolls are prophetic in nature. If it is indeed the case they're a manual, why was SEELE so certain that fifteen Angels would be born of Adam?

Edit: now that I think about it, there are two explanations that I think are plausible. Either they used the knowledge in the Scrolls to arrange things to be like that during the Contact Experiment with Adam or they were simply told by Kaworu there would be fifteen, including himself.
 
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That reminds me of a question I've had for some time. As is suggested on that page, the Dead Sea Scrolls are actually a manual regarding the Seeds of Life and the Spears. Many fanfic authors instead seem to think the Scrolls are prophetic in nature. If it is indeed the case they're a manual, why was SEELE so certain that fifteen Angels would be born of Adam?

Edit: now that I think about it, there are two explanations that I think are plausible. Either they used the knowledge in the Scrolls to arrange things to be like that during the Contact Experiment with Adam or they were simply told by Kaworu there would be fifteen, including himself.

That or, y'know, they saw the fifteen entities getting emitted from Adam during Second Impact.

They were born at that moment, it's entirely plausible that they literally just watched them on satellite at least enough to get a count.
 
An idea I've had kicking around is exploring what would happen if Shinji placed himself between Asuka and Arael right before it forced Asuka to relive her memory of opening the door to her mother's hospital room. It would likely soften the impact of Arael's attack on Asuka at least a little bit and would help Shinji relate to her through shared experience.

While not exactly what you're talking about, I do recall another fixfic where Shinji basically No Sells Arael's attack. It wasn't a "Space Marine Shinji" fic either. It might have been Altered Destinies, but its been a while since I read that one. If I recall, Shinji puts Unit 1 in front of the beam to protect Asuka, Arael tries to mind rape Shinji who basically says, "Yeah, every memory you're showing me is horrible and would have broken me like a twig. Last year. Here's a summary of all the good things I've discovered in my life..."

On another matter, I'll kill several birds with my first post.

Can anybody help me with a translation issue? I want to extend the Shogōki, Nigōki, Sangōki through Unit 8. It's actually work related. No, I'm not in the entertainment world, but I do work with Positrons :)
 
Hey, it's not so long ago that most households in industrialized countries had a small low-powered particle accelerator in their living rooms.
I miss those days. I could legitimately threaten to turn an annoying person's TV in an electron gun.....

Well, I can still make the threat, its just a bit harder to carry through...

But really, there's no cause to get worried. It's only a 300 MeV linac, connected to a 5.3 GeV synchrotron. That's not enough anti-matter to blow your nose.
 
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