Advice and Trust [NGE]
M. H. Fuzzball
Aperture Science-certified Horrible Person
- Location
- Sector 2814
Who the Hell wants to force an update when Stryp isn't in the right headspace to write it? That way lies the Bad End.
Hey, I'm not poking Stryp to write, ever, and I'm pretty sure he knows that.
Making fun of others — and myself — is a whole different matter. That, I won't stop doing.
- Location
- somewhere hot
What is he, Buckaroo Banzai?
- Location
- Spain
And, with all due respect to Mr. Kadmon, thank God for that.
Nice little bit, Stryp. It was a good read to start the day with.
- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
"This sucks! I'm younger than her, and all I've gotten so far is one scene in an omake! Unfair! I'm calling my agent!"
I will have to try harder.
Yup, that was a Rebuild joke.
Backstage!Gendo: "I could play it. I'd need a lot of drugs, though. Like, some of Katsuragi senior's LSD. That shit made me think I was a vampire for 2 days, last time I took some. Good stuff!"... my brain just went a very silly place, and tried to imagine omake!Gendo playing Alucard from Hellsing. This mostly resulted in my brain segfaulting
Headspace isn't the problem as much as just finding time lately. I'm on day shift right now, and only have about 3 hours a day that's not tasked to sleep, work, or meals. So finding the time necessary to sit down and write is a real struggle. That WAFF snippet was only possible because I got off early that evening thanks to a smaller number of drone missions that day than usual. On the upside, I got to direct an airstrike on an ISIS VBIED (car bomb) yesterday, so a better day all round.
Backstage!Gendo: "Oh, man, those guys were a party. I used to rock out with the Hong Kong Cavaliers back in the 80s. I played bass. Banzai offered me a fellowship at the Institute, but I had other commitments. I'm still a 'Visiting Researcher' there, though."
I'm supposed to get off early again tonight, so there's hope for more updates.
Ranma-sensei
Sorcerer
- Location
- Citrix Receiver
- Pronouns
- Weatherdependent
This amuses me.
You just had to make a drug joke, if only to provoke me!
It's not LSD. Whatever's in there, it is probably out of Grandpa Shulgin's handbook, PiHKAL. Most probably this bad boy.
And we are all so grateful for that.
Adam Kadmon--the fanfictor who thinks the canon ending of Evangelion is way too upbeat.
Try and book a Super Robot Wars game that has the both of the series crossing over.
Schpoonman
They call me the Bord of Lays
- Location
- United States
Younger?
Shinji: "Not for long, you aren't."
- Location
- Online
You know, i kind of like the "atmosphere" the kids have here. Not only non of the trauma they have in canon, but a general "normal kid" air, even though they are actors. They more or less enjoy themselves and live life, having fun(though they do work). Yet they also have that "adventurous air", from being able to do things like go to Vegas at the drop of a hat.
octobersanctuary
Self-appointed Master of Ceremonies
- Location
- New Zealand
I don't know who that is and I am terrified already
- Location
- Canada
Well it's a damn good pseudonym for writing EVA stuff (it's a kabaalistic phrase meaning "Original/primordial man"). He's had stuff on FF.net since 2006, and seemingly has a love-hate relationship with his own works (or is completely aware of how hokey they can be and does not care at all. Except for the Mazinkaiser crossover one.).
- Location
- Online
Agreed. I don't really remember much about EOE but i do remember that the last scene was of Shinji crying on the beach after having tried to strangle Asuka, with Asuka's(who has different colored eyes at this point. What was that about?) last words being "disgusting". And that was the least @#$%ed up thing we saw in that movie.
- Location
- Canada
Well I'd consider the series ending to be canon as well, and that was (relatively) upbeat.
Heavy Fuel
Ask me for anything but time.
- Location
- 1123.6563.5321
Yeah, but which one is the real ending? The second half of EoE or episodes 25 and 26 of the series? Or is it all supposed to be going on at the same time?
Turing Decidable
𝕘𝕒𝕣𝕗
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That is currently indeed the most common interpretation. According to that interpretation, the series ending depicts everyone being exposed to the rest of humanity due to the borders between individuals being erased, and it also shows the final conclusion Shinji arrives at that leads him to reject Instrumentality.
grommile
nasty-minded old cynic
- Location
- NERV-Mercia
- Pronouns
- Traditional/Animate
Presumably a side effect of having been sympathetically stabbed in the eye by a Replica Lance.
Ranma-sensei
Sorcerer
- Location
- Citrix Receiver
- Pronouns
- Weatherdependent
According to Word of God, it's the same ending.
I suppose it is only different aspects of it that we see.
Matt R
Giant Robot Pilot
- Location
- North Dakota
Somewhat off topic from the EOE discussion, but EVA-related and too funny not to share...
- Location
- Texas
If my own memory is correct on the subject, I think Asuka has a bandage over one eye and another covering her arm. The idea of her eyes being different colors may be a quote (from one of the actors?) that her eyes are no longer blue, but red. However, that could be due to the lighting, which due to the sea of LCL is red.
It' s been a while since I've seen EOE, though, so I could be wrong. The bandages are both a reference to her injuries in the battle with the MPE's, and Rei's bandages in the first episode.
As for the ending, I also agree they're supposed to be the same events, one from inside Shinji's mind (and probably Asuka's, Rei's and Misato's as well) and the other the objective reality of what happened. The series ending is more optimistic, and I think it removes some of the ambiguity of the movie ending, as it shows how Shinji has changed. I really think you have to see both too grasp the whole ending.
akrasiel23
A wraith no more
- Location
- Peru
Fast-forward some years after, a piar of women are sitting outside a set as a piano can be heard as it's being played in the distance:
R!Asuka (reading her script): "You know....after being forced to wear that showy plugsuit in the second film, I thought things couldn't get any weirder."
Mari (sipping at her tea) : "Mmm?"
R!Asuka: "I mean...I'm 28 now? How does that make any sense? At least the new suit can be explained as being a new model and the eyepatch something I have to wear after my accident in the second film..."
Mari: "-Not to mention as a nice reference to your counterpart in the EoE film-"
R!Asuka: "The point being...Am I an adult or a teen in this movie? I keep reading my lines at the last part of the film and I have the feeling that I'm this bitter yet rational adult but then I read again my lines at the start and what I'm supposed to say and do in the last fight sequence and I look again like an angry, aggressive teen who doesn't listen to reason, gah!, it's so confusing!"
(Shikinami reclines against her back chair while she crosses her arms behind her head, frustration clear on her expression.)
R!Asuka: "Maybe...Maybe all those years of piloting could have make me lose half of my mind, at least that would explain half of the things that I'm
supposed to do."
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...
Mari: "...or maybe your character is simply still in love with the puppy and is acting like that because of it?"
R!Asuka: "...."
...
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R!Asuka: "...Shut it four-eyes."
A rather good fanfic author who is most known for making dark and depressing Evangelion fics to the point of them being even darker than the original series if that is even possible. One of his best known stories is I Knew him when, which is...rather depressive since it involves Mana interviewing those that once knew Shinji and even has Touji eventually coming to hate him.
Edit: Whoops, confused authors, sorry about that.
If we are to be more specific:
Episode 25 is supposed to happen after episode 24 and prior to the Third Impact since it deals with the psyche of the different characters as they face their own inner dilemmas, each portion happens anachronically compared to the episode 25' as Rei's final discussion with herself is supposed to happen before the invasion of the Geofront (Gendo telling her her time has come) and Asuka's segment happens after she has been sent to the Unit-02 at the bottom of the lake and before she awakens. It can be said episode 25 is the introspection that happens alongside the action of episode 25' so watching it first before 25' is recommended to further understand why each character is acting the way they are at the moment.
Episode 26 on the other hand is meant to happen after Shinji goes mad and Instrumentality is set in full motion as it's his own mental exploration as he continues to think of what to do after he has made his choice, the entire evaluation of his own person as he slowly comes to terms with his own person and the final segment of the alternative world where Asuka is his childhood friend and Rei is a cheerful girl is meant to be his own epiphany of how life in itself was not at wrong and how different things could have been if the Second Impact never happened, with the infamous congratulations scene happening just before Shinji finally tells Rei that he rejects Instrumentality and talks to Rei and Kaworu that he doesn't mind the pain anymore since, even then, those were moments he still felt alive.
After that, the movie continues on its own and the final scenes of the series roll in with GNR falling apart, Instrumentality being halted, the Unit-01 being vanished from Earth and set to travel across space forever and of course the beach scene with Asuka and Shinji. And if memory serves me right, Asuka's eyes are indeed still blue, it's the whole lighting that makes them look red.
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- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
Aoi is written by Random1377, who is usually a WAFF author. It is probably the darkest Eva fic, tied with Kadmon's I Knew Him When or Witness.
Status: I have become so desperate to write, I'm resorting to longhand on paper at work. I've got most of a scene done, and will aim to find time to transcribe it and an update by Friday.