Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!
- Thread starter Crystalwatcher
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Well, the example I gave only works when someone else tries to Intercept the attacks of Goddess White, since Intercept (False) would reduce the damage an unspecified amount.
The two handed thing makes sense to a degree, but wouldn't you still be able to do it two handed if you had something like Cleave or Sunder? You do a two handed attack, effortlessly slash straight through their weapon, and the sword continues its swing to hit the enemy? I wouldn't call "Intercept | Cleave | Crush" a "wacky Ability interaction".
Damage multipliers in general definitely do apply twice in Intercepts if their conditions stay met though, as shown with the bonus damage that Sixth Heaven does to high tier growth affinities.
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Adorable!Tale from earlier, better days:
I approve!
[X] No Rest For The Wicked
[X] In Memoire - The White
[X] The Story of Peace
[X] In Memoire - The White
[X] The Story of Peace
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- Somewhere
[X] No Rest For The Wicked
[X] In Memoire - The White
[X] The Story of Peace
Could have sworn I already voted...
Oh well.
[X] In Memoire - The White
[X] The Story of Peace
Could have sworn I already voted...
Oh well.
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- Earth
...did you know that the last Reflection was during the vacation in Heaven, on page 323?
Ugh... it would be so easy if everyone actually titled their Omakes as such, so that a quick search for the term would have given me all the results.
I am not counting Lord Marshal's rants, by the way; those are character studies, not Omakes.
Anyway, here we go.
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Omake Total: 19
Omake Spread:
-kelllogo: 9
-Highwind: 5
-diesel366: 2
-UberJJK: 1
-Gore17: 1
-Naron: 1
With special mention to @kelllogo for writing half of the whole bunch. It probably would have been more, had they not decided to make a spin-off instead.
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ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
So, I've been feeling creative again, and I decided to make some new MGs. Please, tell me what you think of them!
- (Independent) Magical Girl Nightborne Assassin
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Isabelle Helsing
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- (Independent) Magical Girl Aqua Angel
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Marianne De La Croix
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- (Independent) Magical Girl Thorn Witch
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Annabelle Blaze
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- madison
so if I'm reading this right, it's 18600 damage (assuming I'm the stacking works out to base damage times thirty-one.) with unstoppable negating all resistance, and then bleed and murder both activate dealing 20460 damage a turn. Murder stacks I think so if she can get surprise on both her swings double all that. so a minimum raw unstoppable damage of 39060 before the target acts, and if both attacks trigger everything a max of 78120. The DOT's hit in two ticks so the bleed might be partially negated but it's a small part of the damage, the main thing it's there for is to burn through any "first time a turn" effects.
in short, she has about twice neps single target damage output ignoring spells. For one turn, then she's going to have to run like hell because without surprise or backstab she would be killing one demon grunt a turn. She's probably a good example of exactly why MG's are so feared. Shes just a bit above one of hells ground commanders in a straight fight, but she could seriously fuckup or even kill the greatest of the darks champions. hell, she's probably killed quite a few greater nightmares, unstoppable is one of the best ways to break through false existence. pretty impressive for someone who could probably be mobbed to death by a few dozen grunts in a straight fight.
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
She is also spell-based invisible and I haven't seen any rule that would dispel it on attack.
Really, the three things she lacks are "teleport to backstab position", "expeditious retreat", and an upgrade to her spell to make her Silent and cover for other methods of detection.
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true, she's still super squishy compared to the kind of thing she's hunting. She'd probably level crazy fast or die almost immediately.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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It's assassin day, apparently.
- (???) Magical Girl Horror Story
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Margery Gendhel
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ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Let's see what people have to say about these three.
- (Independent) Magical Girl Upgrade Central
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Becky Daring
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- (Independent) Magical Girl Calamity Harbinger
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Jessica Marvin
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- (Independent) Magical Girl Phoenixian Guardian
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Jessica Marvin
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phoenix seems a bit overpowered for a myth. 10 attacks a turn and healing to full each turn seems like a bit much.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
To be fair, she has a very highly leveled weapon justifying her sheer number of attacks, and her regeneration is caused by her Super Ability. The former comes with a number of additional benefits, such as the Abilities on the weapon, while the latter is practically obligated to be OP in some fashion.
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- madison
counter argument, supremacy zone. that said it's a fair point that a myth who survives long enough to get into the high levels would be pretty strong, and good abilities and one WTF feature sounds about right for what I have now noticed is a level thirty weapon.
*yes it's a bit off topic but I'm still salty about how much of a lemon it turned out to be.
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To be fair about Phoenix, it's her very high health and resilience levels (I think it's maxed out typical stats) that give me pause.
I would have probably been more accepting of it if her Tender of the Volcano ability was folded into her Super. Or her super at least had a line like "increases Magical Girl Phoenixian Guardian's Health and Resilience by 100%".
...And what's that about Supremacy Zone I hear? I mean, the battles we've been up till now weren't suited to its use - but it's more of an army-fucker-upper ability than anything else, what with immunity to ground-based anti-air and the ability to literally burn away anyone daring to try and attack her from the air the moment they attack.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Phoenixian Guardian is supposed to be an example of an experienced Myth Girl that happened to luck out when she got her stats. She had the good luck to have a combination of high health, resilience, and damage at the beginning, and managed to get her Super Ability relatively early in her career after purchasing the prereqs. Since then, she's been busily building up her personal power so that for the most part she doesn't have to rely on her Super Ability's auto-resurrect feature. Amazingly enough, even when you can come back to life, dying hurts like hell.
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- madison
and it slapped apocalypse on her gun. something that made it unusable in 9 out of 10 situations, and little more useful than actually useful collateral damage it replaced in the few it can be used in. Then it was a few arks before we'd have anything like time to actually train. Its defensive aspects are respectively risky* and useless**, and its offensive aspect is rendered thoroughly redundant by starshine. It's just not that useful, it does a lot of things but it does all of them kinda shittily. I wouldn't complain if it wasn't a super ability, something that is suposed to be OP rather than kind of niche and meh.
*just about every failed intercept I've seen has had the attack that won the conflict get a damage boost. so intercept could make strong attacks stronger, this is made significantly worse by the fact that if we want low enough splash to use it near people were going to have to lower our attack damage making failed intercepts more likely. We also can't be sure how it will interact with the soft rules becase we've never been able to use it safely.
** the list of things that ignore the invulnerability reads like the list of things that spend time shooting at flyers. so it's at best niche, and that's before the warning sticker that even attacks it no sells can knock you out of the sky, which means even in the few situations it would come into play it's use is going to be at best sharply limited.
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Hey, just 'cause y'all suck at using it doesn't make it less OP y'know.
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- madison
Hey, just 'cause y'all suck at using it doesn't make it less OP y'know.
it actually kind of does. "Needs lots of training to be useful" makes it useless because we've been under some form of major time crunch pretty much the entire quest. With the one big chunk of downtime we got spent
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I'm pretty sure this was on the discord, but there was a discussion involving this...specifically, it's been at least implied that the intercepts can be done with spells... including Celestial Severance, which has unstoppable and thus auto-wins intercepts. Starshine is less likely to win the intercept, but has less collateral, too.Hey, just 'cause y'all suck at using it doesn't make it less OP y'know.
I doubt this takes much practice to learn, though HOW to practice it is something I'm unsure of, especially as Nepgear is unaware of this.
Some things I'm less sure of about it are that the intercepts do not take actions, and that we can intercept aerial attacks, though perhap[s not with the other benefits.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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I'm in a good mood so imma respond to this now instead of when the constant whining about how bad it is actually annoys me.
So! Supremacy Zone!
- Is it a bad ability? No.
- Is it weak? No.
- Is it a poor fit for Nepgear's kit? Yeah.
- Are you lot using it wrong? Yes. Yes you are.
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I am legitimately not understanding what you mean here. I talked about intercept fire, do you mean the anti-army thing? because not only have we literally never had a chance to use it, it's going to soon be rendered near totally redundant by star shine. The damage boost is nice, but unless I'm wrong about that not applying to spells it's another thing we can't use because it saddled our weapon with apocalypse. Really about 80% of my salt comes back to apocalypse. supremacy zone lets us do all sorts of neat tricks with our basic attack, and then it makes using our basic attack a terrable idea 99% of the time.
you keep saying we are using it wrong, how the fuck are we supposed to use it? the offensive boost is at best useful redundancy, intercept fire and the basic attack boost are rendered useless by the very ability it gave us. what possible use there for this thing that we're not seeing? does it get good if we train sure maybe. but giving someone under a time crunch a super ability that makes their basic attack unusable, and the ability itself mediocre until they train is something worthy of salt.
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