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Also belated but:
Firnagzen said:
"Madoka is- safe. Happy," Homura says. "She- she settled down, after the... revelation. Miki Sayaka talked to her, and they- they asked me for reassurance. I told them it would be fine."
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Can you imagine this scene?

Just. Imagine.

Madoka still worried, sad. Sayaka being supportive. Homura being out of her fucking depth, as usual.

Madoka and Sayaka look up to Homura and ask her for reassurance.

And Homura? Out of her fucking depth.

She must have stood there like a fool for way, way too long, trying to think of what to do, but coming up blank.

Finally, and this might be something she gets from us, she tells them: "It'll be OK."

And they take her word because it's what there is.

You though Homu was tense because of this meeting at Oriko's? Nah, it was just that for once in her life she had to reassure Madoka and Sayaka. With words.
 
Onmur said:
Also belated but:

Can you imagine this scene?

Just. Imagine.

Madoka still worried, sad. Sayaka being supportive. Homura being out of her fucking depth, as usual.

Madoka and Sayaka look up to Homura and ask her for reassurance.

And Homura? Out of her fucking depth.

She must have stood there like a fool for way, way too long, trying to think of what to do, but coming up blank.

Finally, and this might be something she gets from us, she tells them: "It'll be OK."

And they take her word because it's what there is.

You though Homu was tense because of this meeting at Oriko's? Nah, it was just that for once in her life she had to reassure Madoka and Sayaka. With words.
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More then that. She had to reassure them that Walpurgisnacht would go fine. Isn't that a psychological tactic - making someone else say or act something is much more convincing then just telling it to them?
 
Redshirt Army said:
More then that. She had to reassure them that Walpurgisnacht would go fine. Isn't that a psychological tactic - making someone else say or act something is much more convincing then just telling it to them?
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I don't know but sounds right.

Man, I'm loving the progress Sabrina's done with Homu so far.

In this update:

Physical affections has become more casual.

Homu openly admits to being worried.

Homura asks Sabrina how she's doing.

Like, holy sheet. What's next, Homura being open with information?
 
People stop voting for Drop the Potential Bomb! It WILL end badly if it left worded like that! The guy who posted the suggestion didn't even intend for it to be voted for!
 
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Seems legit.

Seriously, though, I'm getting sloshed in a Canada Day party and won't contribute much tonight.

Take this outline:

[ ] Your "knowledge" is... unusual. In addition to the (concerning) inaccuracies you've already noticed, you also have some knowledge of timelines that couldn't have happened, since this present would look very different if they had. And in one of them, the Incubator causes Akemi Homura , an Akemi Homura with many loops of experience, to despair by telling her something.
-[ ] He was twisting the truth, of course, to make it as horrible a weapon against her will as he could manage. It is his nature. But... the actual facts are, you think, not that terrible, when not framed to cause as much hurt as possible. Does Homura give us permission to tell her?

And refine it, at the very least.

For now, proxy voting. I'll check on it in the morning.

[x] Muramasa
 
Start drafting!

Here's a draft on both Madoka+Loop talk, and Loopbomb talk. Probably want to take more than an update if we want to bring up both things now, if Homu seems like she can take it even.

[] Continue talking to Homura
-[] Tell her we want to share some important parts of our metaknowledge.

-[] You know how to keep Madoka from Wishing: First part is beating Walpurgisnacht, but what really keeps her from Wishing is learning what Wishing means... for Homura.
-[] When Madoka learns about Homura's struggles, pain, the loops, she respects that.
-[] Offer Homura whatever support you can.

-[] One more thing:
-[] Make an analogy: Homura knows how the Lich/Witchbombs affect some meguca more than others, and how Kyuubey uses those bombs to make girls despair.
-[] Kyuubey's got one such bomb for Homura.
-[] Promise Homura the same you promised Mami. We'll tell her the truth, if she wants. And it's not as bad as it might seem.
 
Onmur said:
Like, holy sheet. What's next, Homura being open with information?
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We can hope.
Aranfan said:
I'm sorry. I didn't want to start a bandwagon. I wanted to put out a vote to motivate others to make a better vote.

:cry:
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I find that joke vote votes are good for that.


Okay, we have our goals. I think that planning for the potentialbomb depends on whether we get Homura to agree to talk to Madoka? The question is whether we want to attack the warning about the potentialbomb first or start with reading in Madoka. If we start with reading in Madoka, then the warning-of-potentialbomb and the planning-for-potentialbomb happen in sequence, which is probably more natural. If we start with warning Homura about the potentialbomb, we can use the planning for it as an argument for letting Madoka in so she can help. I think that that would probably taint the request for infodump, though, so I'm going to go with Madoka first. And that is a sufficiently difficult topic that it should get a vote to itself. So I think my proposal for this vote looks something like this:

[] Try to convince Homura to read Madoka in on the loops.
-[] You believe that the best way to keep Madoka from wishing is to simply tell her how much it would hurt Homura. She's too good at helping to be stopped any other way. But she's also too compassionate to go against Homura's wish, not unless everything else is lost. Which it won't be, not with you around.
-[] Reduce the threshold for slip-ups.
-[] You think that it'd be good for Homura too, honestly, and that makes everything easier. Especially keeping Madoka from worrying.
Redshirt Army said:
[ ] Your "knowledge" is... unusual. In addition to the (concerning) inaccuracies you've already noticed, you also have some knowledge of timelines that couldn't have happened, since this present would look very different if they had. And in one of them, the Incubator causes Akemi Homura , an Akemi Homura with many loops of experience, to despair by telling her something.
-[ ] He was twisting the truth, of course, to make it as horrible a weapon against her will as he could manage. It is his nature. But... the actual facts are, you think, not that terrible, when not framed to cause as much hurt as possible. Does Homura give us permission to tell her?

And refine it, at the very least.
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[] Warn Homura that there's a realization that can hurt her. It's bad.
-[] You want to help her through it before Kyubey gets a chance to use it as an attack.
 
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