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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
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You know, concerning Anoqeyån, I wonder if a human who gained windsight would have the same experience Snorri is. Is it a specific dwarf thing (that Anoqeyån only has an effect when the subject is capable of perceiving the thing) or is it a general phenomena that the elves have never noticed because they're all inherently magical?

Dammit, I really want to find some humans so we can test this now. Sadly I don't think it's that likely.

(also Anoqeyån is a fun word. It's an 8 letter word with 5 different vowels, it's very fun to say.)
 
[x] [Snorri:] No.
[x] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
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DragonParadox said:
Huh... you know I think I might be coming around to liking Vragni a little. The fact that he was able to pull this off means that Runesmiths doing ritual magic wasn't some kind of one time fluke, it is something that can be understood and replicated.
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Soul has said the ritual is unrepeatable and there is no chance in doing it again.

Soul on Discord said:
I have to reiterate, the ritual is a one in a million chance happening because of incredibly specific circumstances
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The above response was from when I asked if we could look at Vragni's Citadel of Creation when it is done to see if a ritual happens.
Soul post from WoG said:
Khazagar is about as close a comparison as you can make, but that's not a good sample for two reasons. Different Runes, even if they're largely comparable, and more importantly the fact that you did an unrepeatable ritual on the site and have no idea if that changed anything
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From what we understand, we know that ritual caused the runes to glow gold.

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The Permanent golden glow of Runes made in Khazagar is due to the ritual [Observed, Muddied Evidence]
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I think Vrangi is pulling up alot of Deep magic but in a different way or worse way than us or they did something different.
 
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BananaBuddy said:
I think Vrangi is pulling up alot of Deep magic but in a different way or worse way than us or they did something different.
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Occan's Razor would suggest that if someone repeats an action we performed soon after that action was done they likely drew at least inspiration from it, if not outright copying it. Maybe it's one in a million for us because we do not understand it and it's not one in a million for Vrangi because he does.
 
[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
DragonParadox said:
Occan's Razor would suggest that if someone repeats an action we performed soon after that action was done they likely drew at least inspiration from it, if not outright copying it. Maybe it's one in a million for us because we do not understand it and it's not one in a million for Vrangi because he does.
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Vragni probably made a rune to infuse "something" into runes being crafted nearby.

We don't know what siphoning is, though i suspect something to do with volcanos.

Vragni almost certainly did not perform a ritual that Snorri did on accident. He probably just recreated what he believes is the end result.

And given what he thinks of Snorri and his Vanity, It could even be something entirely cosmetic.
 
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[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)

Taking on an apprentice just as we're about to walk into a magical nuclear reactor so we can harvest its raw uranium for a dragon seems bad.
 
[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
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[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
Dark as Silver said:
Snorri voted in favour of Vragni if I recall correctly.
He probably wouldn't do so again, but thats because they've developed the closest thing to grudge without being a grudge. But it does mean that at a fundamental level, Snorri thinks Vragni has the skills and reliability needed to be a Runelord.
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Snorri has been pretty clear that the rivalry/grudge (with a lowercase g) is entirely one-sided and coming from Vrangi. I'm pretty certain that Snorri would vote in favour again, because he's seen that Vragni's driven and skilled and he actually approves of what Vragni's doing.
 
DragonParadox said:
This seems to contradict itself, if he thinks of the effect as cosmetic and vanity why would he want to be vain? I think it is more likely he managed to get a similar effect some other (more easy to replicate) way.
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For the same reason he created the Citadel. He thinks Khazagar is a terrible idea, but it didn't stop him from creating a similar institution.

He might think that the Golden Runes created at Khazagar, but they also bring a lot of prestige to the institution. Every deed performed with a weapon with Runes that glow gold is another feather in Khazagar's hat. Understated, but undeniable.
If he doesn't want his institution to be even more overshadowed, he has to come up with something to compete.

Unfortunately, he created the institution as a reaction to Snorri creating Khazagar, rather than any desire or need to have such an institution.
So he'll be caught forever playing catch up and trying to get out of Snorri's massive (and growing) shadow.
 
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[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
[X] [Karstah:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 12 turns)
 
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[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
 
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[X] [Snorri:] Yes. Apprentice Vote in next Turn Results. (Taking apprentices will lock minimum 1 action per turn for 10 turns)
 
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