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Why not? Canon had a production run of five, not that we ever saw three of them.
How much would it cost to refit the Merchant class with Warp 5?
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Are you intentionally trolling? Our ship is worlds better than the canon one and yet you seem to think that giving up weaponry(that is absolutely needed) and utility(that is also absolutely needed) for more science labs is somehow the better choice? You have presumably watched the Enterprise series and as such should remember the basics of what happens during the next few years. So to make you stop with the trolling. Please explain to me how less guns and no aft torpedoes in exchange for one extra lab would help in season 4 of enterprise.(Newsflash the extra lab would be absolutely useless)
So you acknowledge that our ship is better than the canon NX-01 Enterprise the Premier scientific exploration ship of earth and the early United Federation of planets for the next decade or so. Yet in the same breath you denounce said premier starship as a disaster? Yeah stop with it already your vote lost deal with it.
Okay, apparently you do not understand some facts. Let me explain it to you:
1. By the simple factor of size Canon Enterprise would not have two big laboratories.(two small and cramped ones I belief) we have word of god that the canon ship had one lab space as our ship does.(this means with the standard shit built into our ship we at least count as equal.)
2. Our ship has more space for crew comfort and redundancy and bigger labs. Then we also have a secondary computer core to increase its science ability. More than the canon ship. (Again what the canon ship packed was more than enough for the next decade and we are better than that.)
3. In addition our ships has the weaponry to not get instant killed the moment we make contact with something hostile.(A real problem that was only somewhat solved by the crew being just that good in canon here the crew is still just that good but also man a far better ship.)
4. As a massive bonus we have multiple capabilities the Original enterprise lacked in canon making our ship a multirole cruiser.(Again multirole ships are the canon future of all Starfleet vessels.)
All together this means that there is a pretty good chance that our NX-Class will get one refit to the warp 7 engine in the 2160ies and continue serving in Starfleet in stark contrast to the canon ships that got retired before 2170.
Grieving/trolling from people that are butt hurt about loosing the vote.
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The way the economy watchers were complaining I was expecting us to get one, and done. I was prepared for the NX to be a test bed and technology showcase. Use it to test and refine tech, then dispense the 'good stuff' out to cheaper classes.
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Bit disappointing the science stat is so low on Earth's first Explorer type, but damn will she be good in her secondary role as a cruiser. Hopefully the next line of Explorer types can afford to go harder on the science.
Bit disappointing the science stat is so low on Earth's first Explorer type, but damn will she be good in her secondary role as a cruiser. Hopefully the next line of Explorer types can afford to go harder on the science.
I'll take that. It'd be nice if we got an S rank science score a few explorers down the line.
@Sayle
Can you include the stat summery with every update instead of only on the information tab? And update the non-combat stats with the benefits of our choices, ie cargo/shuttle bays or extra labs/sensor packages that come included with upper or lower hull choices? It would let us make better choices of how to balance our stat choices.
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S'not up to us what options we're given.
Fair, but I figured that would be the best way to 'salvage' the NX Program in what I was thinking.
I am happy we're getting more. We're going to science so many things, and these babies can take care of themselves SO MUCH BETTER!
You know what? Changing my vote, I want MOAR NX!
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This is an obvious cherrypick, as Season 4 was in a large degree about laying the diplomatic groundwork for the Federation. Better ability to analyze spatio-temporal anomalies' causes and effects, and to devise countermeasures, would be of the most obvious use in Season 3: in protecting the ship, presenting data to the Xindi council, and undermining the spheres. But, as it turns out, better sensor-data processing would also help with things like locating the cloaked Romulan drone (and cloaked ships in general). And, for the record, I voted to upgun our NXs (I would have also voted for atomic torpedoes, but missed the vote), just not for the machine shop.
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I suppose there's no reason why not to do that.
Strunkriidiisk
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The only good part of ENT, tbh
The only good part of ENT, tbh
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As has been stated before, industry compounds like a snowball. I'd rather have the ability to build some NXs AND upgrade the Stingrays. This would be immediately useful as it increases their power, range, and maneuverability. But it also might help in development of the Warp 5 engine as there will be a lot more warp 5 engines around and the configuration for the Stingray is for max speed. It may actually go past Warp 5 without modification and give information for overall development.
And, on top of that, have industrial growth so that we could build more ships at the end of the 5-year period. Compared to losing all that for an extra 2 NXs within this 5 year period.
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3 ship run industry at the end of 5 years: 100.4 Industry (Can do 2 NXs and still have leftovers)
5 ship run industry at the end of 5 years: 82 industry (Cannot)
As has been stated before, industry compounds like a snowball. I'd rather have the ability to build some NXs AND upgrade the Stingrays. This would be immediately useful as it increases their power, range, and maneuverability. But it also might help in development of the Warp 5 engine as there will be a lot more warp 5 engines around and the configuration for the Stingray is for max speed. It may actually go past Warp 5 without modification and give information for overall development.
And, on top of that, have industrial growth so that we could build more ships at the end of the 5-year period. Compared to losing all that for an extra 2 NXs within this 5 year period.
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For math:
3 ship run industry at the end of 5 years: 100.4 Industry (Can do 2 NXs and still have leftovers)
5 ship run industry at the end of 5 years: 82 industry (Cannot)
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Fair. But again our ship is Better than canon enterprise. Saying she is no scientific exploration vessel does a disservice to what we build. She very much is a scientific exploration ship. We just made her a very good multirole design that hopefully is the new standard to achieve in the future for all cruisers.
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Alectai
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Thanks.
Also, that aside, would you give us an idea of what the canon NX-class's stat block would look like? I'm getting fed up about everyone screaming that we've ruined Starfleet's future by making a worse scientific explorer than the canon Enterprise was, and it'd help to have some actual numbers backing that instead of people's Opinions.
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Nobody is saying that. The canon Enterprise is a too-low standard, both by design (its sensors and computers were laughable, and that T'Pol was able to get use out of them at all is as much a miracle as anything Trip pulled off) and in production (it wasn't just the weapons systems that were impacted by the too-soon launch). The relevant standard is either objective (to aim at the median or better on the numerical scale we're given), or near-peer powers' ships.
EDIT: I would be interested in any intelligence Vulcan High Command is willing to dole out to its protectorate about the threats its ships are likely to face, however.
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