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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    Movie Pitch: The Iron Giant
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    • Alright, so, continuing with the list of movies Warner would no longer do, I had moved up to the 90's when I found this gem of a movie that I had actually forgotten about! Understandable since it was, from what I was able to find, woefully undermarketed to the point that barely anyone knew that the movie existed during its release date, and it was only when the reviews came from both critics and audience alike that WB tried to promote and market the film. Too little, too late.

    Hell, they had a deal with Burger King before the entire movie was released and they just...let it go. What the fuck Warner!?

    Well, whatever it may be, this movie was a masterpiece, not only because of its design, but the characters themselves feeling so alive, with the entire theme and ambience of the story giving it a much different tone than other movies coming from either Pixar or Disney back then. The fact that it didn't have the chance to be fully appreciated is a travesty I tell you, and a one that can be fully rectified this time around if only here.

    This is a movie I see us doing by the late 70s/early 80s when our Animation Department is beginning. I mean, with our knowledge of computers and advancements, as well as the talent we would be bringing in, I feel we can do it just fine.

    As such, I give you:

    Movie Pitch:
    The Iron Giant    ​

    GENRE: Drama/Comedy

    SUBGENRE: Action/Adventure/Science Fiction

    FORMAT: Movie (Animation)    ​

    Set Up: An adaptation of the novel The Iron Man by Poet Ted Hughes. The story is about is about a lonely boy named Hogarth Hughes who is being raised by his mother, Annie Hughes (the widow of an Air Force pilot), who discovers an "Iron Giant" who fell from space. With the help of a beatnik named Dean, they have to stop the U.S. military and a federal agent (Kent Mansley) from finding and destroying the Giant. It takes place in the town of Rockwell, Maine, USA, during the height of the Cold War in October 1957.

    Director: Brad Bird
    Composer: Alan Menken
    Hogarth Hughes: He's an energetic boy who befriends The Iron Giant and acts as his mentor while trying to protect him from the authorities. A fairly average kid, but also smart for his age as he was moved up a year, which caused him to be bullied by the other kids at school as a result. He shows a surprising amount of maturity, as he already has a deep understanding of people, likely coming from losing his father to war.

    Voiced By: Keith Coogan
    Alternate: Corey Feldman

    Annie Hughes: She's a hardworking waitress of a local diner in Rockwell. She is the widowed mother of Hogarth Hughes and is protective of him as much as possible as a result. Annie is also very strong, like a mother tiger protecting her son. She's funny and really spunky, but no pushover and can hold her own when dealing with any issue.

    Voiced By: Jodi Benson
    Alternate: Julianne Moore

    Dean McCoppin: He's an artistic beatnik that assists Hogarth Hughes in caring for The Iron Giant and providing it with a home and food while Hogarth is away. Dean is an outcast. The rest of the town doesn't take him seriously, but he's cool with that. He's a Bohemian junk man who sells art (or an artist who sells junk, even he doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference) and follows the beat of his drum.

    Voiced By: John Travolta
    Alternate: Steve Martin

    Kent Mansley: He's a corrupt government agent who came to Rockwell to investigate the report of a monster. He is paranoid but ruthless, with a hunger to improve his own career, and has spent most of his life as a Federal Government Agent of Unexplained Phenomena Department working in a cubicle. With the possibility of a "monster" in Rockwell, he hopes to upgrade his own career by destroying the creature.

    Voiced By: James Woods
    Alternate: Dennis Hopper

    General Shannon Rogard: He's the military leader of the army, a man who does not tolerate Kent's paranoia or insubordination. He's skeptical of Kent's claims of a "Monster" in Maine, and is furious with him when he still manipulates the government to send him in without any evidence. Despite his hard attitude, he's still a fair man, who is willing to listen to reason.

    Voiced By: R. Lee Ermey
    Alternate: Tommy Lee Jones

    The Iron Giant: He's a 50-foot tall autonomous "Metal Man" from another world that crash lands on Earth before becoming friends with a young boy who rescues him from his own internal defensive mechanism. When he first came to Earth, the Iron Giant had a bump on his head, holding back the protocol his metal suit was trying to force.

    Voiced By: James Avery
    Alternate: James Earl Jones
    Earl Stutz: A local fisherman and citizen of Rockwell, Earl Matthew Stutz is a spunky old man and a drinker, considered to be a kook by some. He's the first to see the Iron Giant, and is not believed.

    Marv Loach: He is the foreman of the Rockwell power station. He is seen helping Kent Mansley out with what happened at said power station.

    Floyd Turbeaux: He sells Dean McCoppin a tractor because it had a large bite out of it, caused by strange invaders, according to Earl Stutz, who called the Government to deal with the problem by sending Kent Mansley.

    A.N: I've tried finding actors that were good at voice acting, or did voice acting, so that we don't have to depend completely on celebrities, though it's a bit of a hard sell as many are celebrities now, but they weren't back then. I considered using Kevin Conroy but I'm not sure if his voice is appropriate for any role in this film. If you can think of any then let me know.
     
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    • @Magoose Some questions

    Has Robert Redford made "All the President's Men" or is it not going to be made because of no Warner Bros?

    Just to clarify is Martin Scorcese doing "The Passion of the Christ" or "The Last Temptation of the Christ"? Cause if it's the latter then that's a big bottle of controversy waiting to wash over Lucasfilms and I don't know if IC Bruce would be agreeable.

    Since VHS was just invented does that mean soon Lucasfilms is going to get passive income from VHS residuals?

    Since in my plan neither Bruce nor Mike are gonna be the Exec Producer for Dracula, does that mean Gary Kurtz or George is gonna be so?

    Is Marvel doing Star Wars comics like OTL or has that deal not happened yet?
     
    The Martian
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    • The Martian (a R. Talsorian Cyberpunk Story): by Mike Pondsmith and Dave Alistair [ Novel / Film | Cyberpunk / Science Fiction ]

    Preferred Actor:
    - Mark Watney: Mark Hamill

    Summary:
    Set concurrently with the events of Tijuana Takedown, the narrative follows the life and times of Mark Watney, a lone astronaut left stranded on the surface of an uninhabited Mars who must use all of his wits and skills to survive in a hostile world where the odds are stacked against him.

    It's the year 1996, the world has become a dark and dangerous place, shattered by the strength and arms of men with no limits...and yet, even in this bleak world, the allure of space exploration still calls to some, including astronaut Mark Watney.

    When a catastrophic dust storm forces his team to evacuate their Mars mission, Watney is left behind, presumed dead by his crewmates. But against all odds, he survives the storm and finds himself stranded on the desolate surface of the red planet with no way to communicate with Earth.

    With only his wits and the limited resources of the mission, Watney must use his knowledge of engineering and botany to grow food, make water, and repair his equipment. He faces numerous challenges, from harsh weather conditions to equipment malfunctions, and even a lack of breathable air.

    As Watney works tirelessly to stay alive, he realizes that the only way he will ever make it back to Earth is to take matters into his own hands. He begins to hack his equipment and use his knowledge of science and technology to find a way to communicate with Earth and ultimately, to survive.

    But even as he makes progress, he knows that time is running out. With limited supplies and no way to signal for help, Watney must push himself to the limit if he hopes to survive and make it back to Earth.

    As time runs out, NASA launches an unmanned supply probe to help Watney, but it explodes during liftoff. With no other opoptions and with unwelcome aid from the Soviets, Watney's crewmates risk their own lives to save him by executing a dangerous slingshot maneuver around Earth to return to Mars.

    Watney manages to reach the pre-positioned MAV (Mars Ascent Vehicle) at Schiaparelli crater, but faces new challenges as he tries to make it back to Earth. He risks everything to modify the MAV and reduce its weight, ultimately succeeding in intercepting Hermes, his crew's spacecraft, before it leaves orbit.

    In the end, Watney is rescued and returns home, a testament to the strength and resilience of the human spirit in even the most challenging of circumstances.

    A/N: Wanted to have at least one bright spot in the earliest lore of Cyberpunk's setting, something that would be truly inspirational to all...before using this as an opportunity to launchpad and explore what tales Cyberpunk's Space has to offer across the Interstellar Expanse.
     
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    • Orion Ultor said:
    The Martian (a R. Talsorian Cyberpunk Story): by Mike Pondsmith and Dave Alistair [ Novel / Film | Cyberpunk / Science Fiction ]

    Set concurrently with the events of Tijuana Takedown, the narrative follows the life and times of Mark Watney, a lone astronaut left stranded on the surface of an uninhabited Mars who must use all of his wits and skills to survive in a hostile world where the odds are stacked against him.

    It's the year 1996, the world has become a dark and dangerous place, shattered by the strength and arms of men with no limits...and yet, even in this bleak world, the allure of space exploration still calls to some, including astronaut Mark Watney.

    When a catastrophic dust storm forces his team to evacuate their Mars mission, Watney is left behind, presumed dead by his crewmates. But against all odds, he survives the storm and finds himself stranded on the desolate surface of the red planet with no way to communicate with Earth.

    With only his wits and the limited resources of the mission, Watney must use his knowledge of engineering and botany to grow food, make water, and repair his equipment. He faces numerous challenges, from harsh weather conditions to equipment malfunctions, and even a lack of breathable air.

    As Watney works tirelessly to stay alive, he realizes that the only way he will ever make it back to Earth is to take matters into his own hands. He begins to hack his equipment and use his knowledge of science and technology to find a way to communicate with Earth and ultimately, to survive.

    But even as he makes progress, he knows that time is running out. With limited supplies and no way to signal for help, Watney must push himself to the limit if he hopes to survive and make it back to Earth.

    As time runs out, NASA launches an unmanned supply probe to help Watney, but it explodes during liftoff. With no other opoptions and with unwelcome aid from the Soviets, Watney's crewmates risk their own lives to save him by executing a dangerous slingshot maneuver around Earth to return to Mars.

    Watney manages to reach the pre-positioned MAV (Mars Ascent Vehicle) at Schiaparelli crater, but faces new challenges as he tries to make it back to Earth. He risks everything to modify the MAV and reduce its weight, ultimately succeeding in intercepting Hermes, his crew's spacecraft, before it leaves orbit.

    In the end, Watney is rescued and returns home, a testament to the strength and resilience of the human spirit in even the most challenging of circumstances.

    Preferred Actor:
    - Mark Watney: Mark Hamill

    A/N: Wanted to have at least one bright spot in the earliest lore of Cyberpunk's setting, something that would be truly inspirational to all...before using this as an opportunity to launchpad and explore what tales Cyberpunk's Space has to offer across the Interstellar Expanse.
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    I'm not really a fan. I think it's kind of poor taste to slap something like The Martian to Cyberpunk when there's absolutely nothing involving the setting or lore with the Martian besides the title and the fact that the Soviets still exist. It's also a bit cruel to have this uplifting story and then the whole world goes to shit and everything Mark does in this is pointless. I'd rather have The Martian be its own thing like OTL to serve as hope and inspiration for the future of space travel than just filler for the franchise. Cyberpunk 2020 had two very detailed campaign books focusing on the orbital colonies and martian colonies of the Cyberpunk universe. Better to just work on something through there.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I'm not really a fan. I think it's kind of poor taste to slap something like The Martian to Cyberpunk when there's absolutely nothing involving the setting or lore with the Martian besides the title and the fact that the Soviets still exist. It's also a bit cruel to have this uplifting story and then the whole world goes to shit and everything Mark does in this is pointless. I'd rather have The Martian be its own thing like OTL to serve as hope and inspiration for the future of space travel than just filler for the franchise. Cyberpunk 2020 had two very detailed campaign books focusing on the orbital colonies and martian colonies of the Cyberpunk universe. Better to just work on something through there.
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    Yeah, I agree with you, and TBH it would be even more powerful if the Soviets ended up being essential to the rescue (Like the Chinese were in the book)...

    The Martian basically runs on the Trope "Rousseu Was Right", it doesn't fit thematically with the cynism of a Cyberpunk setting.
     
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    Kaiser Chris said:
    I'm not really a fan. I think it's kind of poor taste to slap something like The Martian to Cyberpunk when there's absolutely nothing involving the setting or lore with the Martian besides the title and the fact that the Soviets still exist. It's also a bit cruel to have this uplifting story and then the whole world goes to shit and everything Mark does in this is pointless. I'd rather have The Martian be its own thing like OTL to serve as hope and inspiration for the future of space travel than just filler for the franchise. Cyberpunk 2020 had two very detailed campaign books focusing on the orbital colonies and martian colonies of the Cyberpunk universe. Better to just work on something through there.
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    Here's the thing, is that you're very much ignoring the actual ending of the novel, so I'll quote it for you:
    "If a hiker gets lost in the mountains, people will coordinate a search. If a train crashes, people will line up to give blood. If an earthquake levels a city, people all over the world will send emergency supplies. This is so fundamentally human that it's found in every culture without exception."

    The story is about overwhelming and impossible odds and mankind's battle against them, and by moving that kind of narrative to a setting that's very much the same, it provides greater contrast when for once, the ending is about positive and hopeful.

    It's been discussed before in thread that people would like to see such things (acts of noblebright) more often from this setting in particular [I'd memory serves, you yourself were one of those voices in favor], and so I thought to use it as [I said in the post itself] as a launching to that material, given that this is to take place before the worst of the Cyberpunk's setting starts to take deeper root.

    And it not cruel in the slightest, given that (again) this is to be a reminder that good things still exist in this nigh on grimdark setting, that decency exists independent of profit and prophet, that people will do it even against their own interests.

    Also, who else but the USSR would have helped in this timeframe [before the divergences between our timelines became extreme]? Europe? Out of the question, didn't have the tech. A Megacorp? They didn't have the infrastructure yet.
     
    Orion Ultor said:
    Here's the thing, is that you're very much ignoring the actual ending of the novel, so I'll quote it for you:
    "If a hiker gets lost in the mountains, people will coordinate a search. If a train crashes, people will line up to give blood. If an earthquake levels a city, people all over the world will send emergency supplies. This is so fundamentally human that it's found in every culture without exception."

    The story is about overwhelming and impossible odds and mankind's battle against them, and by moving that kind of narrative to a setting that's very much the same, it provides greater contrast when for once, the ending is about positive and hopeful.

    It's been discussed before in thread that people would like to see such things (acts of noblebright) more often from this setting in particular [I'd memory serves, you yourself were one of those voices in favor], and so I thought to use it as [I said in the post itself] as a launching to that material, given that this is to take place before the worst of the Cyberpunk's setting starts to take deeper root.

    And it not cruel in the slightest, given that (again) this is to be a reminder that good things still exist in this nigh on grimdark setting, that decency exists independent of profit and prophet, that people will do it even against their own interests.

    Also, who else but the USSR would have helped in this timeframe [before the divergences between our timelines became extreme]? Europe? Out of the question, didn't have the tech. A Megacorp? They didn't have the infrastructure yet.
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    Yeah I want to explore more noble-ish sides to Cyberpunk and try to lessen the grimdark a fraction because in some spots of the lore it gets a bit unrealistic and mathematically nonsensical for the shock factor, but doing The Martian for Cyberpunk is not the best way. It's like how the Sequels basically shit on the OT by having all the heroes accomplishments be for not and everything they built be turned into twisted carictatures that get destroyed. Mark Watney surviving won't matter here because NASA in the lore turns defunct and all the money is pumped into the Aerospace Force to fulfill America's Jingoism and the Martian colonies became a center for human experiments. It's a huge slap in the face to the theme of The Martian and it's completely unnecessary because what makes Cyberpunk Cyberpunk, the high technology, rise of the Mega Corps, breakdown of social norms and culture, digitalization of human relationships, globalism has nothing to do with The Martian. Tijuana Takedown serves as a great prequel to Cyberpunk because it shows the beginning of the downfall of America, the rise of the military-industrial complex, breakdown of culture and social norms, and the loss of humanity in pursuit of the machine. That kind of stuff is completely seperate from Martian.

    Also to be a bit of a lore shark, your last line is not true because in Cyberpunk Europe and the Mega Corps did have spacefaring capacity, not to mention that NASA at this point did not have the means to launch a mission to Mars because they were broke. Important stuff to remember:
    • The Collapse happens in 1994 where the American economy completely collapses because it's revealed by the European Community that the alphabet agencies have been purposefully tampering with other nation's currencies and stocks, leading to global sanctioning and embargoes of America that causes a grand economic collapse through a super depression and breakdown of social order and rule oflaw.
    • While the Soviet Union is in the space game, Europe is actually the masters of space in the lore to the point where they are building a lunar mass driver and several colonies with the driver specifically being used as blackmail against the other nations and Mega Corps of Earth by threatening to drop a massive lunar rock on them as a rod of God.
    • Japan has manned spaceflight capacity as does a strong number of other Mega Corps.
    • There's a lot of plagues and high intense wars spreading across the Earth, meaning no one gives a shit about Mars.
    I want the noblebright stuff to happen after the world goes full Cyberpunk to show how even in such a massively changing time and society that a lot of people are still decent and good, retain their humanity and will fight the system when given the chance. The Martian giving this hopeful message and then everything goes to the complete shitter is a dichotomy showing polar opposites. Again, why not use this hopeful message to inspire the world to pursue spaceflight and international cooperation when Star Wars has probably pushed people to further push space exploration?
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I want the noblebright stuff to happen after the world goes full Cyberpunk to show how even in such a massively changing time and society that a lot of people are still decent and good, retain their humanity and will fight the system when given the chance. The Martian giving this hopeful message and then everything goes to the complete shitter is a dichotomy showing polar opposites. Again, why not use this hopeful message to inspire the world to pursue spaceflight and international cooperation when Star Wars has probably pushed people to further push space exploration?
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    I think we already have a pitch that could serve for that; Deus Ex: Machina, where we see how someone decides to use their technology and money in order to help people instead of just making profit for himself. Though the Pitch is for a TV show though.
     
    Orion Ultor said:
    Here's the thing, is that you're very much ignoring the actual ending of the novel, so I'll quote it for you:
    "If a hiker gets lost in the mountains, people will coordinate a search. If a train crashes, people will line up to give blood. If an earthquake levels a city, people all over the world will send emergency supplies. This is so fundamentally human that it's found in every culture without exception."

    The story is about overwhelming and impossible odds and mankind's battle against them, and by moving that kind of narrative to a setting that's very much the same, it provides greater contrast when for once, the ending is about positive and hopeful.

    It's been discussed before in thread that people would like to see such things (acts of noblebright) more often from this setting in particular [I'd memory serves, you yourself were one of those voices in favor], and so I thought to use it as [I said in the post itself] as a launching to that material, given that this is to take place before the worst of the Cyberpunk's setting starts to take deeper root.

    And it not cruel in the slightest, given that (again) this is to be a reminder that good things still exist in this nigh on grimdark setting, that decency exists independent of profit and prophet, that people will do it even against their own interests.

    Also, who else but the USSR would have helped in this timeframe [before the divergences between our timelines became extreme]? Europe? Out of the question, didn't have the tech. A Megacorp? They didn't have the infrastructure yet.
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    The thing is that we don't need to make every sci-fi or fantasy project a part of a greater existing franchise, The Martian stands much better as an independent story than as a part of the Cyberpunk universe...
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Across America in 90 Days
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    Now instead of giving SP for this one

    instead, I am going to give +10 to the Writer's rooms next script.
    OldGlory76 said:
    Final Curtain Call
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    +15 to SP.
    Orion Ultor said:
    The Score
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    Now for this, I will give +15 to SP... and add a new action later down the line.
    overmind said:
    Movie Pitch:
    The Iron Giant
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    Oh why must you do this to me my friend.

    []I believe We Can Fly! (Unknown Effect)
    []Never doubt the Power of Something Beautiful. (Unknown Effect)
    []What if a Gun was Alive? What if it didn't want to kill?(Unknown Effect)
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Has Robert Redford made "All the President's Men" or is it not going to be made because of no Warner Bros?
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    It has not been made.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Just to clarify is Martin Scorcese doing "The Passion of the Christ" or "The Last Temptation of the Christ"? Cause if it's the latter then that's a big bottle of controversy waiting to wash over Lucasfilms and I don't know if IC Bruce would be agreeable.
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    I accidentally put Passion rather than the Last Temptation.

    But the thing is, he would want to either. But at the moment, he wants to do just a simple Passion Play, rather than attempt to do the Last Temptation of Christ.

    Which he would know would cause his devout and highly active catholic boss to raise some eyebrows.
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    Since VHS was just invented does that mean soon Lucasfilms is going to get passive income from VHS residuals?
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    Not until the 80's
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Since in my plan neither Bruce nor Mike are gonna be the Exec Producer for Dracula, does that mean Gary Kurtz or George is gonna be so?
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    Gary, George, or a few newcomers may join us, but most likely it will be an interesting name that most people would find interesting.

    Also, wanna know something funny.

    Mike is looking for a new assistant. Someone who can help him with the rigors of the filmmaking process, as well as... well, be creative.

    He's got a lot of choices to choose from.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Is Marvel doing Star Wars comics like OTL or has that deal not happened yet?
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    That is actually a new action for the next turn.
    Orion Ultor said:
    The Martian (a R. Talsorian Cyberpunk Story)
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    +15 to SP, I do not think its a great thing for Cybepunk.
     
    Schehera Zade said:
    Kennedy?
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    While Kathleen no longer works for Universal after Steven Quit, she has been doing rather okay for herself in remaining active in the film industry. She's part of Colombia at the moment, and is doing okay not stepping on any toes.

    Most of the time.

    Though she has criticized her bosses for having no plan for DC comics besides the sole super man film, when she said they should start making a Batman film immediately.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Yeah I want to explore more noble-ish sides to Cyberpunk and try to lessen the grimdark a fraction because in some spots of the lore it gets a bit unrealistic and mathematically nonsensical for the shock factor, but doing The Martian for Cyberpunk is not the best way. It's like how the Sequels basically shit on the OT by having all the heroes accomplishments be for not and everything they built be turned into twisted carictatures that get destroyed. Mark Watney surviving won't matter here because NASA in the lore turns defunct and all the money is pumped into the Aerospace Force to fulfill America's Jingoism and the Martian colonies became a center for human experiments. It's a huge slap in the face to the theme of The Martian and it's completely unnecessary because what makes Cyberpunk Cyberpunk, the high technology, rise of the Mega Corps, breakdown of social norms and culture, digitalization of human relationships, globalism has nothing to do with The Martian. Tijuana Takedown serves as a great prequel to Cyberpunk because it shows the beginning of the downfall of America, the rise of the military-industrial complex, breakdown of culture and social norms, and the loss of humanity in pursuit of the machine. That kind of stuff is completely seperate from Martian.
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    What you just described is exactly why it fits the narrative of the Martian, that it occurs during a transitory period where the audience gets to view the same themes from a different perspective.

    As for Mark and his struggles not having meaning, in the context Cyberpunk [as I've already stated], this means that the collapse of NASA and the loss of Mars to the Corps is a tragedy, one that is inconsquential to the point of the book: That Human Nature is Aiding One Another.

    The organizations do not matter, they never have (its even called out as such in the book), it's the people that matter. Because of that, there's no way in hell Mark would take the fall of NASA, USA, etc. lying down or lightly, and in this setting, that go in any direction. He might end up a leader of one of the greatest Nomad Clans, a Philanthropic Corpo, an Aerospace Force leader, literally anything, and with way you're talking, it greatly ignores the capacity of characters to grow beyond their pages, their adventures, their stories.
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    Also to be a bit of a lore shark, your last line is not true because in Cyberpunk Europe and the Mega Corps did have spacefaring capacity, not to mention that NASA at this point did not have the means to launch a mission to Mars because they were broke. Important stuff to remember:
    • The Collapse happens in 1994 where the American economy completely collapses because it's revealed by the European Community that the alphabet agencies have been purposefully tampering with other nation's currencies and stocks, leading to global sanctioning and embargoes of America that causes a grand economic collapse through a super depression and breakdown of social order and rule oflaw.
    • While the Soviet Union is in the space game, Europe is actually the masters of space in the lore to the point where they are building a lunar mass driver and several colonies with the driver specifically being used as blackmail against the other nations and Mega Corps of Earth by threatening to drop a massive lunar rock on them as a rod of God.
    • Japan has manned spaceflight capacity as does a strong number of other Mega Corps.
    • There's a lot of plagues and high intense wars spreading across the Earth, meaning no one gives a shit about Mars.
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    You do realize that this is before that lore is established right? While I'd certainly love to utilize what we have already have OTL, both since it's great and it's easier in the longrun [for the Quest], we're in the stage before any of that gets established.

    As to the other points, see above.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I want the noblebright stuff to happen after the world goes full Cyberpunk to show how even in such a massively changing time and society that a lot of people are still decent and good, retain their humanity and will fight the system when given the chance. The Martian giving this hopeful message and then everything goes to the complete shitter is a dichotomy showing polar opposites.
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    No, it really doesn't. But I've made my point about this clear, but to reiterate, I'm of the belief that things things of that magnitude need to be foreshadowed, built up, maintained, and improved upon...shit like that doesn't pop up out of nowhere, and it helps later characterizations of characters if they have someone like this already to look up to, making everything in the narrative feel more lived in.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Again, why not use this hopeful message to inspire the world to pursue spaceflight and international cooperation when Star Wars has probably pushed people to further push space exploration?
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    Because, again, this is is a building block for other material, other narratives, later down the line, because I have scripts for at least five other projects: the canon, the expansive, the shakespearean interstellar voyages, burning shores, etc.

    There's other tales, real life tales, that we can use. In fact, I have plans for an Interstellar policy later down the line to (hopefully) prevent Challenger from blowing up.
    overmind said:
    I think we already have a pitch that could serve for that; Deus Ex: Machina, where we see how someone decides to use their technology and money in order to help people instead of just making profit for himself. Though the Pitch is for a TV show though.
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    It's for a series, yes, because it covers a shitton of material and gradually builds up to (potentially) other shows.
     
    Magoose said:
    Oh why must you do this to me my friend.

    []I believe We Can Fly! (Unknown Effect)
    []Never doubt the Power of Something Beautiful. (Unknown Effect)
    []What if a Gun was Alive? What if it didn't want to kill?(Unknown Effect)
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    Can I get hint? If not then that's fine.
    Magoose said:
    While Kathleen no longer works for Universal after Steven Quit, she has been doing rather okay for herself in remaining active in the film industry. She's part of Colombia at the moment, and is doing okay not stepping on any toes.

    Most of the time.

    Though she has criticized her bosses for having no plan for DC comics besides the sole super man film, when she said they should start making a Batman film immediately.
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! SHE'S YOUR PROBLEM NOW COLUMBIA!
     
    Magoose said:
    I'm actually going to not give a hint this time. If only for the simple fact that. I feel like it deserves to remain hidden.
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    Fair.

    [X]What if a Gun was Alive? What if it didn't want to kill?(Unknown Effect)
    Magoose said:
    Eh, maybe she can find another talented director who has a great track record with films that can be made, and also mooch of success on...

    (looks at rolls)

    Oh shit. :o
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    Geez, wonder what poor schmuck she is going to ruin after backstabbing in the future.
    Orion Ultor said:
    ...DC's gonna burn to the ground.
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    "What if Superman doesn't get the girl, but instead gets the dog?"
     
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    Orion Ultor said:
    ...DC's gonna burn to the ground.
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    All I'm going to say... she's nowhere near the level of control she has in this timeline.

    and she might actually have to work for her talent for once.
    overmind said:
    Geez, wonder what poor schmuck she is going to ruin after backstabbing in the future.
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    That depends...

    Does she betray them immediately, or makes friends with them, cultivating a friendship over decades, and then tears it apart for her own ego and lust for power and recognition?

    And no, I won't tell you who it is, just to keep the suspense.
     
    Magoose said:
    All I'm going to say... she's nowhere near the level of control she has in this timeline.

    and she might actually have to work for her talent for once.
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    And in other news; Pigs can now fly.
    Magoose said:
    That depends...

    Does she betray them immediately, or makes friends with them, cultivating a friendship over decades, and then tears it apart for her own ego and lust for power and recognition?
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    Short Answer: Yes

    Long Answer: Hell Fucking Yes!
    Magoose said:
    And no, I won't tell you who it is, just to keep the suspense.
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    Fair. At least she didn't manage to sink her greedy, toxic hands into Star Trek. They are going to have enough of a hard time with Roddenberry and his vision of a "Utopic" future without her input.
     
    overmind said:
    And in other news; Pigs can now fly.
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    I mean in quest, and Real life, that has happened.

    Now most of the time it required aircraft but... you know. Fearl hogs are scary AF.

    so yes, plus I need a villain that isn't universal, with a chance of a redemption arc like Vegeta, don't take this fun away from me :V
    overmind said:
    Fair. At least she didn't manage to sink her greedy, toxic hands into Star Trek. They are going to have enough of a hard time with Roddenberry and his vision of a "Utopic" future without her input.
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    ... Now I'm not that cruel.
     
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