Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
[x] Cleanse soul gem
[x] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[x] Converting grief into witch barrier properties like fire.
[x] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
- [x] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
- [x] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[x] Practice with enchantment magic on a pebble or something, at least until we aren't causing things to break while doing so.
- [x] If we manage to reach that point, carefully start feeding magic into Hildegarde's seed
Yeah, I don't think messing about with magic on Hildegard's seed is a good idea when we are still at the level where everything we enchant shatters into pieces. We are just asking for something to go wrong if we start filling the seed at our current level of skill.
[x] Wear a ring of grief on your pinkie finger.
[x] Converting grief into witch barrier properties like fire.
[x] Careful examination. Inspect and compare all three grief seeds in your possession.
- [x] Carefully refill Aurora to an 'unused' state. Pay EXTREME attention to how the grief seed is compressing grief. This is an effect you'll want to duplicate.
- [x] Empty Aurora to half capacity. Have it make contact with Mami's seed. If nothing happens, empty Aurora to one quarter. Make contact again. Check for any kind of transfer between the two seeds.
[x] Practice with enchantment magic on a pebble or something, at least until we aren't causing things to break while doing so.
- [x] If we manage to reach that point, carefully start feeding magic into Hildegarde's seed
Yeah, I don't think messing about with magic on Hildegard's seed is a good idea when we are still at the level where everything we enchant shatters into pieces. We are just asking for something to go wrong if we start filling the seed at our current level of skill.
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Muramasa
Best Girl
@Cannongerbil
Actully Sabrina's soul gem is probably a bit dark right now. You may want to add a cleanse to your vote.
Actully Sabrina's soul gem is probably a bit dark right now. You may want to add a cleanse to your vote.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
I'm really starting to think that we should make "[]cleanse our soul gem" as a standing vote to be done at the start of each update, because it's basically what we have been doing anyway. It'd save us the trouble of having to manually edit it into every vote.
In any case, it's been added.
FlatlineAskari
*feline scrutiny*
- Location
- Elsewhere
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- Any
Random thought - if we were to break a seed, would it make the witch hatch?
If so - what if we were to drain one, and then break it?
(Crush and snort grief seed; gain witch superpowers? Trip balls? Bleed from the eyes, nose and/or ears? Die? None of the above? All of the above? Only one way to find out!)
If so - what if we were to drain one, and then break it?
(Crush and snort grief seed; gain witch superpowers? Trip balls? Bleed from the eyes, nose and/or ears? Die? None of the above? All of the above? Only one way to find out!)
- Location
- ⇙
[x] Cannongerbil
Seems like a good and safe start, before we attempt more dangerous things.
Seems like a good and safe start, before we attempt more dangerous things.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
Uhh, probably not? It'd be like breaking a soul gem, the witch would just die, permanently this time. Draining it beforehand wouldn't change the outcome in any significant way.
Which, if we can't fix a broken grief seed back into a soul gem...might not be the worst thing to do to witches.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Possibly not; it depends on exactly how a seed functions. If it's something like a prison/trap for the witch then it could very well release it, except this time it'll keep on existing so long as it has even the tiniest shred of grief left (and seeing as it's unlikely that damage to a witch actually destroys grief, rather than dispersing/disording it...)
...actually, how would you kill a witch that you could only disperse the grief of (if you're not Sabrina)?
Other option is that it's functionally equivalent to a soul gem, in which case it obviously just kills the witch.
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Beat it into the core then stop it from building up enough grief to be a threat again?Possibly not; it depends on exactly how a seed functions. If it's something like a prison/trap for the witch then it could very well release it, except this time it'll keep on existing so long as it has even the tiniest shred of grief left (and seeing as it's unlikely that damage to a witch actually destroys grief, rather than dispersing/disording it...)
...actually, how would you kill a witch that you could only disperse the grief of (if you're not Sabrina)?
- Location
- Germany
Okay, if Muramasa says so...and since caution is my middle name....
-[X] Cannongerbil
-[X] Cannongerbil
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
That wouldn't actually kill it, though, and depending on how fast it heals/recovers grief trying to contain it could cause some real problems. Admittedly it's kind of an academic question, though.
- Location
- spinning
Regarding Cannon's vote.
Perhaps also check our will on grief not in our control, ex. we let grief outside of range, it dissipates, we step towards it and see if we can get grief. Or even, as @Higure pointed out,ambient grief in non-puella living beings.
Might as well go the whole hog with grief-caused weapons, with all the precautions. Though, we could leave it after poking seeds and stuff.
I note that this will likely take up all the remaining time, so I'd rather want to test grief transmutation, changing of properties and especially abandonment and autonomy in familiars/AIs and keep this as something to learn faster with Mami, while last two would be best not due how they ping to experienced meguca.
Perhaps also check our will on grief not in our control, ex. we let grief outside of range, it dissipates, we step towards it and see if we can get grief. Or even, as @Higure pointed out,ambient grief in non-puella living beings.
Krecart
Not for throwing.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Ahahahaha! Nice troll Homura-chan!
Oh dear, is our oujo jelly? Yeah, she jelly.
Xexilf
Oblivion Sempiternum Daemonis
-[X] Cannongerbil
Im with the "be really carefull about energy conversion" people. Think about it. The incubators think its a viable plan to run the entire universe on some variation thereof. While it seems unlikely we actually manage what they are doing (we should still think about quizzing kyubey about grief, howevermuch he will tell us. I dont think we could keep many breaktroughs hidden from him in any case) we may well be holding a planetcracker even with a tiny marble, given the ridiculous energy quantities it would take to stop entropy.
Im with the "be really carefull about energy conversion" people. Think about it. The incubators think its a viable plan to run the entire universe on some variation thereof. While it seems unlikely we actually manage what they are doing (we should still think about quizzing kyubey about grief, howevermuch he will tell us. I dont think we could keep many breaktroughs hidden from him in any case) we may well be holding a planetcracker even with a tiny marble, given the ridiculous energy quantities it would take to stop entropy.
Muramasa
Best Girl
You know we could ask for Oriko's help on this one. Make sure we don't blow ourselves up.
- Location
- spinning
That was with Mami helping us. Furthermore, it is something we can do with Mami at home in the evening, so it uses up Mami time and also uses up experiment time. To be honest, most of grief material/transmutation things fall also into the niche where we can do it in the evening at home.
Thus, AI/abandonment tests would be a 2nd priority to me after seed thing, given how they'd ping experienced Puella.
Krecart
Not for throwing.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
"Hey Oriko, if I do this, am I going to accidentally the planet?"
I say it's a safe bet.
Speaking of Oriko, can we contact her via telepathy while we're doing the less intensive experiments? She might actually need a cleanse this morning, or Gwen might be just an hour away from re-hatching. We could check up on best buddy too.
Muramasa
Best Girl
She can contact us if she's getting nervous about it. Otherwise I'm fine with saving it until after lunch.
