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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[x] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)
[x] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [x] Middling: Teach those you consider reasonably sure to use and spread the rune as you do. 18 Of the two dozen will be taught.
 
[X] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)
[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [X] Lax: Any Runesmith who hasx reached the rank of Master is worthy. All of the two dozen will be taught.
 
[x] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)
[x] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [x] Lax: Any Runesmith who has reached the rank of Master is worthy. All of the two dozen will be taught.
 
Neshuakadal said:
But other dwarfs are not Alric. Does everyone react the same way to the same things? Saying that is not a strong argument to me.
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jjffjhjf said:
Sure but, nothing says it was what he made and not just him being more likely to go mad from such.
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See but that seems unlikely we've seen other Dwarfs do it to the point where it isn't particularly notable for a Dwarf to isolate themselves for that period of time working on research things. So this would assume that Alric is a particularly weak-willed Dwarf even compared to the average when right there we have a ready-made tradition created by an ancestor god which offers a conceivable explanation that's not the Dwarf Runelord is weak of will which is highly unlikely.
 
Aight, I've updated the timeline, please inform me if you notice any typos or errors. I'd also like feedback on if I should color Barak Azamar or our other creations like it for the tier they are.

Currently they are colored and I am not sure if I like it very much. I might try bolding them instead of italicizing and treating them like the various deeds.
 
LaggPlaguedDuke said:
Point of clarification, there were a bunch of Runelords, all older than Snorri that went north with him in the initial colonization wave. It's just the incursion kinda killed them all so he was the only one for a couple turns until they elected new ones. Kraka Drakk is noted to have more than the average number of runesmiths for a hold its age and size which started after the Greedy One got Otrek addicted to runes and he spent his early years as king encouraging runesmiths to move north.
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Otrek is funny, he saw what Snorri did and was like 'Holy mother of the ancestors, this rune shit is great! Why aren't their more of these?!?!?!' and then proceeded to spend the equivalent of 10 actions to just boost runesmiths to come north, with Snorri accidently chipping in every once and while. Shit was hilarious!

Silver719 said:
Where Thungni will back up the integrity of the vote.
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So, I tried to find if someone did respond to this, but I couldn't find anyone but forgive me if someone did.

Wasn't it a really big deal Thungni went to the last one? He normally doesn't seem to attend unless he has some big motive, like he did last time which was to agree to give Kraka Drak 4 runelords which was a big deal.

BelligerentGnu said:
[X] [Masters]: I'd prefer Soulcake decide this one based on Snorri's character.
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This is a good idea, I'll join in.

[X] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)
[X] [Masters]: I'd prefer Soulcake decide this one based on Snorri's character.
 
[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
-[X] Lax: Any Runesmith who has reached the rank of Master is worthy. All of the two dozen will be taught.

[X] [Chain]: Release the method now.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
See but that seems unlikely we've seen other Dwarfs do it to the point where it isn't particularly notable for a Dwarf to isolate themselves for that period of time working on research things. So this would assume that Alric is a particularly weak-willed Dwarf even compared to the average when right there we have a ready-made tradition created by an ancestor god which offers a conceivable explanation that's not the Dwarf Runelord is weak of will which is highly unlikely.
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Well, other dawi do get paranoid and obsessive about things though. Like Kragg is considered such, never taking an apprentice and the like. He just didn't get obsessed with something he couldn't do.
 
jjffjhjf said:
Well, other dawi do get paranoid and obsessive about things though. Like Kragg is considered such, never taking an apprentice and the like. He just didn't get obsessed with something he couldn't do.
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The Dwarfs don't seem to think he's particularly paranoid or obsessive they just seem to think he has high standards.
 
ThatGuyMike said:
Otrek is funny, he saw what Snorri did and was like 'Holy mother of the ancestors, this rune shit is great! Why aren't their more of these?!?!?!' and then proceeded to spend the equivalent of 10 actions to just boost runesmiths to come north, with Snorri accidently chipping in every once and while. Shit was hilarious!


So, I tried to find if someone did respond to this, but I couldn't find anyone but forgive me if someone did.

Wasn't it a really big deal Thungni went to the last one? He normally doesn't seem to attend unless he has some big motive, like he did last time which was to agree to give Kraka Drak 4 runelords which was a big deal.
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I think it was more that all but one of the North's Runelords had been wiped out rather than foreknowledge of that specifically, but yeah. I remember it being a bit of a spectacle and it's unlikely he'd be there this time. Though surely there has to be someone he can communicate with to at least broach the idea, I doubt Snorri has him on speed dial.
 
[X] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)
[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [X] Stringent: Teach those most alike with your own methodology in how to use and spread this Rune. 8 Of the two dozen will be taught.
 
jjffjhjf said:
Well, I can see where you are getting your result. It just... seems super weird.
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In canon, people think Kragg just has stupid high standards because of how old he is. Hes a living ancestor and the oldest dwrf alive after all, whos going to tell him off? No one, that's who. High Kings practically defer to him about anything rune related because they don't want to step on his toes. the HIGH KING.

They consider his actions, not crazy, but perfectly dwarf because thats what Kragg is at this point, a really stubborn dwarf with standards that the current dwarves just, dont think they can match. They obviously try, but Kragg has his standards and dwarves arent meeting them. Hes called the grim for a reason.
 
jjffjhjf said:
Well, I can see where you are getting your result. It just... seems super weird.
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There kind of just aren't many other explanations for why the Rule of Pride is a thing and because Dwarfs are so bound by tradition we only have the like one example of anyone seriously violating it rather than just kind of poking around the edges with two or three uses of the same master rune in a century.

Like this is quite obviously my headcanon because we have no way to confirm or deny this it's just the headcanon I think has the most evidence going for it for why the Rule of Pride exists that being that it's possible to damage your mental health if you repeat the same master rune too often which knowing Dwarfs that's almost certainly something they'd do if an Ancestor God didn't put some rules into place to prevent that sort of thing from happening.
 
And meeting Snorri Kragg would probably instantly and willingly fall into apprentice deference himself. His stupidly high standards are nothing compared to golden age dwarves and he knows it.
 
[X] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)

[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [X] Lax: Any Runesmith who has reached the rank of Master is worthy. All of the two dozen will be taught.
 
[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [X] Lax: Any Runesmith who has reached the rank of Master is worthy. All of the two dozen will be taught.
 
[X] [Chain]: Wait until Rhunkalbrogg. (Turn 41)

[X] [Masters]: Teach them the Rune of Forged Limb
- [X] Middling: Teach those you consider reasonably sure to use and spread the rune as you do. 18 Of the two dozen will be taught.

really want to know what that elf wanted to talk about now.
still its nice to know we did some nice setup work for next turns and build something of a base beyond what we already did to build upon.

wonder how long he is going to live for and what will happen if he dies in quest now?
 
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Byzantine said:
And meeting Snorri Kragg would probably instantly and willingly fall into apprentice deference himself. His stupidly high standards are nothing compared to golden age dwarves and he knows it.
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Current age dwarves getting Snorri is the Imperium getting a fully functional ETC.

They would just explode with their regained knowledge Snorri has, add the fact Snorri is very much a good teacher, assuming you give him however many decades, and you have someone who could turn the crumbling remnants into a resurgent power that can wipe orks and skaven up and down the world's edge mountains... Assuming they consolidated anyway.
 
Honestly this bickering about Alaric is just a pointless debate about the straw that broke the camel's back. It doesn't really matter as so many things served as stressers and the sourcing is dogshit.

Dwarves can go mad from any of the stuff brought up, Alaric was just famous as fuck at the time and then super infamous after the warpstone shitshow.
 
RiyeLink said:
@soulcake Building off of the current vote, I think some clarity regarding previous actions might be of help to the discussion. When we took "Arm them, Literally" was the build up for that just regarding the system we made for ourselves and our line specifically? Did it account for others to do the same, or no?

As well, I am incredibly confused how Lax is even an option considering the comments we made to Snerra:
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It would have been a precedent the Cult could look to if another Runesmith tried it, but Snorri made it clear he was doing this independently and it wasn't the stance of the Guild. Not that the Cult of Valaya thought of it that way, but well.

As for the lax vote, this is more Snorri taking the proverbial reins. He would be setting the precedent with the Understanding that Snerra follow him.

Anyway the point is moot now Im pretty sure.

MrHobbit said:
Isn't it Hearthguard?
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Hearthwarden is the official term for a member of the Hearth Guard. It was in the vote, or I at least discussed it. I've used it since you've had them.

MrHobbit said:
Thanks! Also did you mean to make the turn last twelve years?
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The 272 is a flashback to your talk with Myrion. You can tell because Turn 37 also ends at 273. I can make that clearer as well.
 
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